Juju to NBC reporter

[Greeksteel]

Bob Pompeani
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Juju Smith Schuster told NBC that he’s learned more about offense in a few months with the KC staff than he did in five years in Pittsburgh. Wow

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[Ice]

Unsurprising.

[steelmann58]

that a shocker with all the great offense minds we had here

[Orangesteel]

Surprises nobody.

Tomlin SUX

[LakecrestSteeler]

Bob Pompeani
@KDPomp
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Juju Smith Schuster told NBC that he’s learned more about offense in a few months with the KC staff than he did in five years in Pittsburgh. Wow

discuss

This is one of the benefits of having a true FQB. You can get your coordinators fired and bring in ones you want with the right agent! If you are good enough.

[Greeksteel]

Of course JuJu was also quite busy on Tiktok in Pittsburgh

[RemoAZ]

This is the kind of stuff that "could" get Tomlin to finally make an impact hire at OC. I don't think he will like getting mocked/humiliated publicly after years of being propped up god-like by just about everyone. It will have to come by more than just JuJu and Colin Cowherd though.

[955876]

Unsurprising.

Ummm ya this.

Obviously.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Just a reminder that also not picking up Fournette back when he was cut from the Jags, and we desperately needed RB depth, was one of the biggest blunders in the last decade for the Steelers!

[955876]

This is the kind of stuff that "could" get Tomlin to finally make an impact hire at OC. I don't think he will like getting mocked/humiliated publicly after years of being propped up god-like by just about everyone. It will have to come by more than just JuJu and Colin Cowherd though.

I hope the hits keep coming. Can Ray Ray Mcloud or any other former offensive players please chime in.

I’m fine with Jibbs running the show as long as he surrounds himself with premium coaching talent and lets them do their jobs.

[RemoAZ]

This is the kind of stuff that "could" get Tomlin to finally make an impact hire at OC. I don't think he will like getting mocked/humiliated publicly after years of being propped up god-like by just about everyone. It will have to come by more than just JuJu and Colin Cowherd though.

I hope the hits keep coming. Can Ray Ray Mcloud or any other former offensive players please chime in.

I’m fine with Jibbs running the show as long as he surrounds himself with premium coaching talent and lets them do their jobs.

At this point I think that's the best we can hope for. It's pointless to call for him to be fired. It's not going to happen and he's still young. And there are good things about him. He seems like a good dude that cares about his players and the people around him. I thought he did a great job leading the organization through all the social justice stuff and the Myles Smollett incident. There's certainly something to be said about stability and the players love him which is great for attracting FAs and getting players to stay. So not all bad for sure.

[drmalba]

Going from Randy Fichtner and Matt Canada to Andy Reid, is like going from DeVry to MIT.

If he had said he learned more about Defense, I'd feel a bit more insulted.

[El Kabong]

Well, yeah, Tomlin's a defensive coach. I wouldn't expect him to know as much about offense as Reid. I don't think Reid knows as much about defense as Tomlin either. It shows we apparently haven't had an OC as good as Reid in JuJu's time here.

[Greeksteel]

Well, yeah, Tomlin's a defensive coach. I wouldn't expect him to know as much about offense as Reid. I don't think Reid knows as much about defense as Tomlin either. It shows we apparently haven't had an OC as good as Reid in JuJu's time here.

Problem is Reid may know just as much about defense as Tomlin as well

[Steelperch]

Going from Randy Fichtner and Matt Canada to Andy Reid, is like going from DeVry to MIT.

That’s CCAC to Carnegie Mellon for the yinzers.

[drmalba]

Going from Randy Fichtner and Matt Canada to Andy Reid, is like going from DeVry to MIT.

That’s CCAC to Carnegie Mellon for the yinzers.

nice.

[langer]

I can picture Coach Mike at home, with Najee curled up beside him, and the look on his face after hearing that more than once on the broadcast. That frown of his deepens, he reaches over to Najee to pet him for comfort, he considers retirement.

And at the Canada trailer, Matt is kicking his dog and beating on the walls. He hears that and continues. Police are called.

The Standard is the Standard. We do what we do.

“We have to absorb the negativity of our poor position and roll our sleeves up and keep working.”

[Ice]

I can picture Coach Mike at home, with Najee curled up beside him, and the look on his face after hearing that more than once on the broadcast. That frown of his deepens, he reaches over to Najee to pet him for comfort, he considers retirement.

And at the Canada trailer, Matt is kicking his dog and beating on the walls. He hears that and continues. Police are called.

The Standard is the Standard. We do what we do.

“We have to absorb the negativity of our poor position and roll our sleeves up and keep working.”

Ha!

[LakecrestSteeler]

Going from Randy Fichtner and Matt Canada to Andy Reid, is like going from DeVry to MIT.

That’s CCAC to Carnegie Mellon for the yinzers.

[LakecrestSteeler]

This is the kind of stuff that "could" get Tomlin to finally make an impact hire at OC. I don't think he will like getting mocked/humiliated publicly after years of being propped up god-like by just about everyone. It will have to come by more than just JuJu and Colin Cowherd though.

I hope the hits keep coming. Can Ray Ray Mcloud or any other former offensive players please chime in.

I’m fine with Jibbs running the show as long as he surrounds himself with premium coaching talent and lets them do their jobs.

At this point I think that's the best we can hope for. It's pointless to call for him to be fired. It's not going to happen and he's still young. And there are good things about him. He seems like a good dude that cares about his players and the people around him. I thought he did a great job leading the organization through all the social justice stuff and the Myles Smollett incident. There's certainly something to be said about stability and the players love him which is great for attracting FAs and getting players to stay. So not all bad for sure.

This is where I have been for awhile. This is where Rooney should be and this is where Khan should be…should be an all out blitz to restock the talent on the field and off the field, especially on offense. Tomlin knows how to keep the band together and that is the most important thing when the show must go on!

Shazier, Bell and AB leaving and a couple departures from the coaching ranks, including a death, I don’t believe were dealt with properly. Only Shazier’s had a direct move associated with him, unfortunately it ended up being Bush.

Something equivalent should have happened for AB and Bell too! Those are years of development that just vanished without any compensation! It takes a toll and disrupts the supply chain unnaturally. Probably should have done a blockbuster draft or in season trade for all 3 to act as a tourniquet; hence me bringing up Fournette, above.

[alancac98]

I guess our coaches are not teachers of the game - who would have thought?

[JackLambert58]

How many of Tomlin's coordinators and assistant coaches have gone on to bigger and better jobs? The Tomlin coaching tree if you will.

[COR-TEN]

This really is pathetic. But who the fuck is going to learn anything from the likes of fichtner or canada? Did JuJu play for Haley? I don't remember.

[Jizz Mop]

How many of Tomlin's coordinators and assistant coaches have gone on to bigger and better jobs? The Tomlin coaching tree if you will.

Tomlin is a fraud

To think otherwise just means you’re incredibly naive or part of the ever dwindling Tomlin Supporters Fan Club.

Canada was a ridiculous, horrible hire.

This team is absolutely embarrassing. I fucking hate watching this team.

Better hit on that top 5 draft pick.

[DP39]

JuJu's comments just solidify what I (and many here) have know for years: Tomlin is lazy, egotistical, and not nearly as smart as he want's everyone to believe. He's used his polished line of BS (and really, having a future HOF QB in his huddle every year of his HCing career) to keep those facts hidden as long as he could. Without said QB, most other folks are pretty quickly going to see what we (most of us here, at least) have known for years.

All Tomlin wants to do in the preseason is the simple work. You know, teach the fundamentals -- getting back to basics. It's the focus of what he preaches every new camp/preseason. It's Pop Warner crap. Maybe it's all his coaching brain can comprehend? I will admit, though, he does get the team bond-building (at St. Vincent) aspect right -- it's why I've said, over and over again, that he should lead The Boys and Girls Clubs -- he'd be an all-star at it.

His ego and intellectual insecurity are his biggest downfalls, though. I'd have SO MUCH more respect for him if was able to say.....'Hey, I'm the HC and do certain things very well, but I acknowledge there are men out there that do Xs and Os and in game management much better than me, so I'm going to hire the absolute best folks that I can find to do those things, and I promise to provide an environment that allows them to do just that to the absolute best of their abilities'. Hell, even if he would just say that to himself (and do it) I'd be okay with it. But NOPE, he's GOT to be the smartest guy in the room!!! Ego's can be the biggest downfall to 'want-to-be' leaders. And it's why I've always said..."he's not a true, natural leader." Natural leaders don't usually make that mistake, but, even if they do, they quickly learn from it -- something Tomlin hasn't and has continually shown he won't.

Meanwhile, you have very good/bright/hard working HCs that EXPECT pro football players to KNOW the basics (or, at minimum, quickly grasp them and move onto the real stuff), and instead spend their time working very hard (and intelligently), along with their staff, to get their players learning, understanding, and proficiently running REAL, modern NFL offensive schemes. It's why Bellicheat has owned him his whole career! You have guys like Reid, McVay, Shanahan, and endless others (many from their trees) that are doing exactly this -- and quite often with lesser talent. On any given Sunday, you can see them playing chess while Tomlin is still moving his players (whom most will die for him, and do) around the board/field playing checkers.

Tomlin IS smart enough to know when the kitchen's about to get too hot, though. Yesterday, sans Ben and Watt -- the type of guys with god-gifted talents (Ben) and extremely hard workers (TJ) that he's used to having on the field to hide his own inadequacies -- he finally went to KP in an effort to cool down the kitchen, and ultimately his seat. Just a few minutes before the first half ended you could see KP come to Tomlin on the sideline and ask him something (I personally think it was...."Am I starting the 2nd half?") and he responding with a resounding..."YES!"

The real interesting part of all of this: is when Tomlin's seat starts getting too hot -- and it will at some point (yes, I know, his seat has much better heat shielding than most), will he be a true leader of men and own every bit of the team's failures or will he (through his usual line of BS) start throwing staff and players under the bus in an effort to keep his elite/NHALS HCing scam going for a few more years?

[Deebo]

JuJu's comments just solidify what I (and many here) have know for years: Tomlin is lazy, egotistical, and not nearly as smart as he want's everyone to believe. He's used his polished line of BS (and really, having a future HOF QB in his huddle every year of his HCing career) to keep those facts hidden as long as he could. Without said QB, most other folks are pretty quickly going to see what we (most of us here, at least) have known for years.

All Tomlin wants to do in the preseason is the simple work. You know, teach the fundamentals -- getting back to basics. It's the focus of what he preaches every new camp/preseason. It's Pop Warner crap. Maybe it's all his coaching brain can comprehend? I will admit, though, he does get the team bond-building (at St. Vincent) aspect right -- it's why I've said, over and over again, that he should lead The Boys and Girls Clubs -- he'd be an all-star at it.

His ego and intellectual insecurity are his biggest downfalls, though. I'd have SO MUCH more respect for him if was able to say.....'Hey, I'm the HC and do certain things very well, but I acknowledge there are men out there that do Xs and Os and in game management much better than me, so I'm going to hire the absolute best folks that I can find to do those things, and I promise to provide an environment that allows them to do just that to the absolute best of their abilities'. Hell, even if he would just say that to himself (and do it) I'd be okay with it. But NOPE, he's GOT to be the smartest guy in the room!!! Ego's can be the biggest downfall to 'want-to-be' leaders. And it's why I've always said..."he's not a true, natural leader." Natural leaders don't usually make that mistake, but, even if they do, they quickly learn from it -- something Tomlin hasn't and has continually shown he won't.

Meanwhile, you have very good/bright/hard working HCs that EXPECT pro football players to KNOW the basics (or, at minimum, quickly grasp them and move onto the real stuff), and instead spend their time working very hard (and intelligently), along with their staff, to get their players learning, understanding, and proficiently running REAL, modern NFL offensive schemes. It's why Bellicheat has owned him his whole career! You have guys like Reid, McVay, Shanahan, and endless others (many from their trees) that are doing exactly this -- and quite often with lesser talent. On any given Sunday, you can see them playing chess while Tomlin is still moving his players (whom most will die for him, and do) around the board/field playing checkers.

Tomlin IS smart enough to know when the kitchen's about to get too hot, though. Yesterday, sans Ben and Watt -- the type of guys with god-gifted talents (Ben) and extremely hard workers (TJ) that he's used to having on the field to hide his own inadequacies -- he finally went to KP in an effort to cool down the kitchen, and ultimately his seat. Just a few minutes before the first half ended you could see KP come to Tomlin on the sideline and ask him something (I personally think it was...."Am I starting the 2nd half?") and he responding with a resounding..."YES!"

The real interesting part of all of this: is when Tomlin's seat starts getting too hot -- and it will at some point (yes, I know, his seat has much better heat shielding than most), will he be a true leader of men and own every bit of the team's failures or will he (through his usual line of BS) start throwing staff and players under the bus in an effort to keep his elite/NHALS HCing scam going for a few more years?

You're crazy if you think that Tomlin is on any "hot seat"

He'll get a pass this year because "Ben retired and they had to integrate a new QB" oh and "His DPOY was injured"

Teflon Tomlin

[Jobu]

The real interesting part of all of this: is when Tomlin's seat starts getting too hot -- and it will at some point (yes, I know, his seat has much better heat shielding than most), will he be a true leader of men and own every bit of the team's failures or will he (through his usual line of BS) start throwing staff and players under the bus in an effort to keep his elite/NHALS HCing scam going for a few more years?

Not that I think Tomlin will ever be on the hot seat, but we have 15+ years of evidence telling us the answer.

[W&M_Steeler]

JuJu's comments just solidify what I (and many here) have know for years: Tomlin is lazy, egotistical, and not nearly as smart as he want's everyone to believe. He's used his polished line of BS (and really, having a future HOF QB in his huddle every year of his HCing career) to keep those facts hidden as long as he could. Without said QB, most other folks are pretty quickly going to see what we (most of us here, at least) have known for years.

All Tomlin wants to do in the preseason is the simple work. You know, teach the fundamentals -- getting back to basics. It's the focus of what he preaches every new camp/preseason. It's Pop Warner crap. Maybe it's all his coaching brain can comprehend? I will admit, though, he does get the team bond-building (at St. Vincent) aspect right -- it's why I've said, over and over again, that he should lead The Boys and Girls Clubs -- he'd be an all-star at it.

His ego and intellectual insecurity are his biggest downfalls, though. I'd have SO MUCH more respect for him if was able to say.....'Hey, I'm the HC and do certain things very well, but I acknowledge there are men out there that do Xs and Os and in game management much better than me, so I'm going to hire the absolute best folks that I can find to do those things, and I promise to provide an environment that allows them to do just that to the absolute best of their abilities'. Hell, even if he would just say that to himself (and do it) I'd be okay with it. But NOPE, he's GOT to be the smartest guy in the room!!! Ego's can be the biggest downfall to 'want-to-be' leaders. And it's why I've always said..."he's not a true, natural leader." Natural leaders don't usually make that mistake, but, even if they do, they quickly learn from it -- something Tomlin hasn't and has continually shown he won't.

Meanwhile, you have very good/bright/hard working HCs that EXPECT pro football players to KNOW the basics (or, at minimum, quickly grasp them and move onto the real stuff), and instead spend their time working very hard (and intelligently), along with their staff, to get their players learning, understanding, and proficiently running REAL, modern NFL offensive schemes. It's why Bellicheat has owned him his whole career! You have guys like Reid, McVay, Shanahan, and endless others (many from their trees) that are doing exactly this -- and quite often with lesser talent. On any given Sunday, you can see them playing chess while Tomlin is still moving his players (whom most will die for him, and do) around the board/field playing checkers.

Tomlin IS smart enough to know when the kitchen's about to get too hot, though. Yesterday, sans Ben and Watt -- the type of guys with god-gifted talents (Ben) and extremely hard workers (TJ) that he's used to having on the field to hide his own inadequacies -- he finally went to KP in an effort to cool down the kitchen, and ultimately his seat. Just a few minutes before the first half ended you could see KP come to Tomlin on the sideline and ask him something (I personally think it was...."Am I starting the 2nd half?") and he responding with a resounding..."YES!"

The real interesting part of all of this: is when Tomlin's seat starts getting too hot -- and it will at some point (yes, I know, his seat has much better heat shielding than most), will he be a true leader of men and own every bit of the team's failures or will he (through his usual line of BS) start throwing staff and players under the bus in an effort to keep his elite/NHALS HCing scam going for a few more years?

You're crazy if you think that Tomlin is on any "hot seat"

He'll get a pass this year because "Ben retired and they had to integrate a new QB" oh and "His DPOY was injured"

Teflon Tomlin

Even the humiliating 2018 collapse didn't put Tomlin on the hot seat. He'll definitely get a pass for this year- very tough schedule, QB transition issues, Watt injury, etc.

After this year he'll be OHOLS Tomlin. He'd need to string 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row before his seat would start to warm.

[DP39]

JuJu's comments just solidify what I (and many here) have know for years: Tomlin is lazy, egotistical, and not nearly as smart as he want's everyone to believe. He's used his polished line of BS (and really, having a future HOF QB in his huddle every year of his HCing career) to keep those facts hidden as long as he could. Without said QB, most other folks are pretty quickly going to see what we (most of us here, at least) have known for years.

All Tomlin wants to do in the preseason is the simple work. You know, teach the fundamentals -- getting back to basics. It's the focus of what he preaches every new camp/preseason. It's Pop Warner crap. Maybe it's all his coaching brain can comprehend? I will admit, though, he does get the team bond-building (at St. Vincent) aspect right -- it's why I've said, over and over again, that he should lead The Boys and Girls Clubs -- he'd be an all-star at it.

His ego and intellectual insecurity are his biggest downfalls, though. I'd have SO MUCH more respect for him if was able to say.....'Hey, I'm the HC and do certain things very well, but I acknowledge there are men out there that do Xs and Os and in game management much better than me, so I'm going to hire the absolute best folks that I can find to do those things, and I promise to provide an environment that allows them to do just that to the absolute best of their abilities'. Hell, even if he would just say that to himself (and do it) I'd be okay with it. But NOPE, he's GOT to be the smartest guy in the room!!! Ego's can be the biggest downfall to 'want-to-be' leaders. And it's why I've always said..."he's not a true, natural leader." Natural leaders don't usually make that mistake, but, even if they do, they quickly learn from it -- something Tomlin hasn't and has continually shown he won't.

Meanwhile, you have very good/bright/hard working HCs that EXPECT pro football players to KNOW the basics (or, at minimum, quickly grasp them and move onto the real stuff), and instead spend their time working very hard (and intelligently), along with their staff, to get their players learning, understanding, and proficiently running REAL, modern NFL offensive schemes. It's why Bellicheat has owned him his whole career! You have guys like Reid, McVay, Shanahan, and endless others (many from their trees) that are doing exactly this -- and quite often with lesser talent. On any given Sunday, you can see them playing chess while Tomlin is still moving his players (whom most will die for him, and do) around the board/field playing checkers.

Tomlin IS smart enough to know when the kitchen's about to get too hot, though. Yesterday, sans Ben and Watt -- the type of guys with god-gifted talents (Ben) and extremely hard workers (TJ) that he's used to having on the field to hide his own inadequacies -- he finally went to KP in an effort to cool down the kitchen, and ultimately his seat. Just a few minutes before the first half ended you could see KP come to Tomlin on the sideline and ask him something (I personally think it was...."Am I starting the 2nd half?") and he responding with a resounding..."YES!"

The real interesting part of all of this: is when Tomlin's seat starts getting too hot -- and it will at some point (yes, I know, his seat has much better heat shielding than most), will he be a true leader of men and own every bit of the team's failures or will he (through his usual line of BS) start throwing staff and players under the bus in an effort to keep his elite/NHALS HCing scam going for a few more years?

You're crazy if you think that Tomlin is on any "hot seat"

He'll get a pass this year because "Ben retired and they had to integrate a new QB" oh and "His DPOY was injured"

Teflon Tomlin

I didn't say he is on any hot seat right now (or even this year). What I was trying to imply is that he's smart enough to know that without Ben (or someone like him) he will eventually be sitting on a warmer seat at some point in the future. I did say he saw the kitchen warming up (which, in turn, will eventually make his seat warm...at some point).

If you think that I don't realize Tomlin's leash is longer than just about any NFL HC's then you probably haven't read many of my 'poasts' over the years -- which is certainly understandable.

[Kodiak.]

He'd need to string 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row before his seat would start to warm.

That's a very real possibility. Tomlin's inability to hire assistants to coach and develop talent just means the roster continues to slowly crumble.

Pickett could end-up being a franchise QB with not a lot around him, running some dopey JV offense. And Cam near the end is going to be devastating for that defense.