Terrell Edmunds

[steelclan]

Is he still considered a bust?

FWIW he is currently having his best season and he was excellent yesterday.

[955876]

Bust? No.

Stud 1st rounder? Not really.

He’s grown into serviceable starter.

And as long as the prancing fairy Devin Bush is on the roster he will remain the biggest issue on that side of the ball.

[zeke5123]

Drafting a safety in the first round makes him a bust. Really bad value.

That doesn't mean he sucks ass though. He has slowly improved. I think he is around the Chris Hope tier, slightly below Ryan Clark. Solid guy; not an All Star. You are in trouble if he is your best safety, but you could do a lot worse as a second safety.

[Deebo]

Drafting a safety in the first round makes him a bust. Really bad value.

That doesn't mean he sucks ass though. He has slowly improved. I think he is around the Chris Hope tier, slightly below Ryan Clark. Solid guy; not an All Star. You are in trouble if he is your best safety, but you could do a lot worse as a second safety.

Well balanced and thought out post

[fractalsteel]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

[K_C_]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

I re-watched the 2019 game against Seattle game recently and my God, I found myself feeling bad for Edmunds.

At one point we had him, I kid you not, in single coverage on DK Metcalf. You can guess how that turned out. I don't believe Edmunds had any help either. Whoever put him in that position should have been fired immediately.

Then he got roasted over and over by their TE. I forget his name.

[Jizz Mop]

I’m amazed that a secondary of:

Edmunds
Norwood
Pierre
Jackson
Wilson
Maulet

Helped the Steelers to victory

Unbelievable actually

This is the kind of shit that happens to us on opposing teams and we lose

I figured with Spoon, Minkah, Wallace and Sutton out we had a Blutarsky’s chance of winning

[beerbrother]

As a 1st round draft pick his play has frequently been disappointing but not a complete bust.

He has been an iron man playing on both special teams and defense. Rarely has missed a game and has improved his play a bit every season.

As a free agent costing $2,537,500 it has been money well spent. Just hope we don't see his brother Trey on the roster again.

[fractalsteel]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

I re-watched the 2019 game against Seattle game recently and my God, I found myself feeling bad for Edmunds.

At one point we had him, I kid you not, in single coverage on DK Metcalf. You can guess how that turned out. I don't believe Edmunds had any help either. Whoever put him in that position should have been fired immediately.

Then he got roasted over and over by their TE. I forget his name.

Yeah,asking him to cover elite receivers is suicide.
IMO, intermediate routes and in is where he can be most effective. He has to keep play in front of him though his COD is a weak point.

Odd that the Steelers converted M.Allen to safety when Edmunds might have been a better fit.

Edit: ILB

[DP39]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

I re-watched the 2019 game against Seattle game recently and my God, I found myself feeling bad for Edmunds.

At one point we had him, I kid you not, in single coverage on DK Metcalf. You can guess how that turned out. I don't believe Edmunds had any help either. Whoever put him in that position should have been fired immediately.

Then he got roasted over and over by their TE. I forget his name.

Yeah,asking him to cover elite receivers is suicide.
IMO, intermediate routes and in is where he can be most effective. He has to keep play in front of him though his COD is a weak point.

Odd that the Steelers converted M.Allen to safety when Edmunds might have been a better fit.

Edit: ILB

I always thought Edmunds would make a better ILB convert, too. But MT always had his sights set on making him his own version of the "legion of boom, Kam Chancellor, SS" (it's why he drafted him) and has stubbornly refused to give up on it.

Edmunds has improved some and is reliably available. He is decent/good in tight spaces and trailing/mirroring "in phase" with RBs/TEs in a confined redzone. His weaknesses are coming forward (at high speed) COD, playing too high (and out of control), taking bad angles, and a below average football IQ.

[SteelPro]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

I re-watched the 2019 game against Seattle game recently and my God, I found myself feeling bad for Edmunds.

At one point we had him, I kid you not, in single coverage on DK Metcalf. You can guess how that turned out. I don't believe Edmunds had any help either. Whoever put him in that position should have been fired immediately.

Then he got roasted over and over by their TE. I forget his name.

That was like DK Metcalf’s second NFL game. He wasn’t really a known commodity at that point.

[fractalsteel]

Edmunds might be physicallyl(size and weight) maxed out. I remember him saying it is hard for him to put weight on and his body fat is around 4%.
He plays at about 210- 215 pounds in the season.
M Allen was able to put the weight on but he hasn't come close to working out at ILB or S.

At least the Steelers played Edmunds contract situation correctly. Instead of not picking up his 5th year option they let him test free agency and were able to get him back on the cheap when no one made an offer.

[the-other-burg]

Edmunds is a victim of being in the wrong position. He's a safety with no ball skills. He's always been solid against the run. If he were a bit bigger he probably could have been a decent ILB.

[Jizz Mop]

Edmunds is a victim of being in the wrong position. He's a safety with no ball skills. He's always been solid against the run. If he were a bit bigger he probably could have been a decent ILB.

Yep. Very limited in pass ability. Strong against run.

Safeties without ball skills typically don’t go in Round 1

That being said he is much better than he was. Solid player. Not great by any means. But serviceable.

[K_C_]

Yesterday they used Edmunds more as a box safety. That is where he fits best.
Go back and watch the Cleveland game where they had him in a Cover 2 a good bit. He got smoked.

Cover 3 shell with Edmunds taking on TEs and being that extra body in and around the box.

If you can get him to sign cheap again next year, do it. I have a feeling that if continues his good play the rest of the season then he will get a decent to good offer.

How many games has he missed in 5 years- 3 or 4?

I re-watched the 2019 game against Seattle game recently and my God, I found myself feeling bad for Edmunds.

At one point we had him, I kid you not, in single coverage on DK Metcalf. You can guess how that turned out. I don't believe Edmunds had any help either. Whoever put him in that position should have been fired immediately.

Then he got roasted over and over by their TE. I forget his name.

That was like DK Metcalf’s second NFL game. He wasn’t really a known commodity at that point.

If the Steelers didn't know he was a 6'4", nearly 230 lbs MONSTER that ran a 4.33 40........they found it out real quick.

[steelclan]

FWIW PFF has him currently listed as the 6th best graded safety and 7th in coverage grade. Obviously, that can change and PFF is not the universal barometer for performance. It does back up that he is playing well this season...from a debatable source.

[K_C_]

FWIW PFF has him currently listed as the 6th best graded safety and 7th in coverage grade. Obviously, that can change and PFF is not the universal barometer for performance. It does back up that he is playing well this season...from a debatable source.

I've hated Edmunds for years and I'll admit he's been outstanding this year and was really good last year.

[yygy]

Edmunds made what I think is the best play I’ve ever seen him make when he shot past the line for that TFL.

Why doesn’t he do that more often? Easy to say assignments or he gets overshadowed by minkah.

I remember one time there was a screen pass and he pulled up like right at the hash…to do what exactly? Seal the inside? I was expecting him to start jumping up and down and saying “coach coach. There’s something happening over here look!!!”

I think with him it’s the mental side. He just doesn’t know what to do in a lot of situations. But I will admit he’s playing pretty well this year

[stillthere]

I’m amazed that a secondary of:

Edmunds
Norwood
Pierre
Jackson
Wilson
Maulet

Helped the Steelers to victory

Unbelievable actually

This is the kind of shit that happens to us on opposing teams and we lose

I figured with Spoon, Minkah, Wallace and Sutton out we had a Blutarsky’s chance of winning

Per Tomlin's presser on Tuesday Spillane also had to play some nickel and box safety against Tampa since they were short DB bodies and had a full compliment of LB bodies.