Can we ever put a team away early?

[rooneytunes]

All 5 wins have been within 1 score with like 2 minutes to play.

Man I would love to have a 3 score lead this week with like 8 minutes to play.

Get better in the red zone Kenny. That is your next step.

[Jizz Mop]

All 5 wins have been within 1 score with like 2 minutes to play.

Man I would love to have a 3 score lead this week with like 8 minutes to play.

Get better in the red zone Kenny. That is your next step.

Yeah but my fingernails may grow back

[Stillchest]

All 5 wins have been within 1 score with like 2 minutes to play.

Man I would love to have a 3 score lead this week with like 8 minutes to play.

Get better in the red zone Kenny. That is your next step.

No, not likely to happen.

Tomlin wants to play attrition, small ball offense, long, time consuming 12-16 play drives, possess the ball, no turnovers, risk averse, keep the game close, and allow his vaunted, quasi-sieve of a D close the game out.

It’s maddening 1995-2000 NFL offense but Tomlin is a dinosaur who loves that shit.

Canada gets a lot of shit, rightfully so, but he’s perfect for what Tomlin wants.

[955876]

All 5 wins have been within 1 score with like 2 minutes to play.

Man I would love to have a 3 score lead this week with like 8 minutes to play.

Get better in the red zone Kenny. That is your next step.

No, not likely to happen.

Tomlin wants to play attrition, small ball offense, long, time consuming 12-16 play drives, possess the ball, no turnovers, risk averse, keep the game close, and allow his vaunted, quasi-sieve of a D close the game out.

It’s maddening 1995-2000 NFL offense but Tomlin is a dinosaur who loves that shit.

Canada gets a lot of shit, rightfully so, but he’s perfect for what Tomlin wants.

That kind of strategy works well if your goal is to be mediocre and squeak by.

Can have many NHALS that way.

Awful strategy if you want to be a tip of the spear team and/or have expectations beyond a token wildcard round appearance.

Small ball doesn’t work very well in todays NFL postseason landscape

[Kodiak.]

I thought I saw a stat last week that something like 53% of games have been decided by 7 or less. So that's mediocrity, I mean parity, of you.

I'd also say a lot of coaches are conservative and risk-averse like Tomlin and simply try to hang on, or keep it close and hope they're stars pull out a win.

The #1 goal, especially for newer coaches (so, most of the league), is don't lose the game doing something stupid. A HC that hasn't won a playoff game in 5 years and lost trying to "exert time pressure" would normally be shit canned the next day.

[Stillchest]

I thought I saw a stat last week that something like 53% of games have been decided by 7 or less. So that's mediocrity, I mean parity, of you.

I'd also say a lot of coaches are conservative and risk-averse like Tomlin and simply try to hang on, or keep it close and hope they're stars pull out a win.

The #1 goal, especially for newer coaches (so, most of the league), is don't lose the game doing something stupid. A HC that hasn't won a playoff game in 5 years and lost trying to "exert time pressure" would normally be shit canned the next day.

Really?

I’m not sure, I see many HC’s employing a risk-averse, small ball offensive philosophy like Tomlin does.

Unless that offense is talent deficient( Falcons, Jags) or super old school, like Tomlin.

To think a HC would choose such an archaic offensive approach, in the modern NFL, when the rules of the game encourage offensive splash plays, and point scoring, it’s quite mind boggling?!!

[Kodiak.]

I’m not sure, I see many HC’s employing a risk-averse, small ball offensive philosophy like Tomlin does.

I'm talking more about "playing it safe" on offense AND defense when they get a lead. Big reason you see a lot of teams come back and make a game of it.

Because no one wants to lose a game and answer questions about "why did you throw deep 3 straight times up 17 in Q3?" or "why did you dial up an all-out blitz up 17 in Q3?"

Similar risk averse "don't beat yourself" approach. Difference is most teams don't employ that approach in a tie game.

[Stillchest]

I’m not sure, I see many HC’s employing a risk-averse, small ball offensive philosophy like Tomlin does.

I'm talking more about "playing it safe" on offense AND defense when they get a lead. Big reason you see a lot of teams come back and make a game of it.

Because no one wants to lose a game and answer questions about "why did you throw deep 3 straight times up 17 in Q3?" or "why did you dial up an all-out blitz up 17 in Q3?"

Similar risk averse "don't beat yourself" approach. Difference is most teams don't employ that approach in a tie game.

Ok…got it.

Yeah, most teams don’t employ that philosophy as their main offense.

Even when Tomlin had a prime Ben, he disliked the approach of staying aggressive on offense.

Fans think, if the Steelers had an “elite” tools in the cupboard QB, Tomlin’s approach and mindset would change. I don’t think that could be further from the truth.

We are seeing the gist of what Tomlin wants offensively.

In the modern NFL, it’s almost counterintuitive to employ such an offense.

Steelers will mostly, continue to be in tight games, regardless of the talent or experience.

I don’t see the Steelers ever winning anything of substance moving forward. Nor do I think they care about that too much.

[955876]

I’m not sure, I see many HC’s employing a risk-averse, small ball offensive philosophy like Tomlin does.

I'm talking more about "playing it safe" on offense AND defense when they get a lead. Big reason you see a lot of teams come back and make a game of it.

Because no one wants to lose a game and answer questions about "why did you throw deep 3 straight times up 17 in Q3?" or "why did you dial up an all-out blitz up 17 in Q3?"

Similar risk averse "don't beat yourself" approach. Difference is most teams don't employ that approach in a tie game.

Ya but Jibbs starts games by Easin in and living in his fears.

When are we up 17 in Q3?

That’s almost as rare as the free lap dance.

[langer]

How you gonna keep people tuned into the entire game?

Stretch it out, keep it close at the end, bingo.

No one wants a squash match, two jobbers beating each other up sells more garbage beer.

Yes, those are wrasslin terms, but this is what this NFL shit is anymore.

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Steelers are deeply and completely clueless in regards to the QB and WR positions for 3 coaches now

It’s not gonna change until a Rooney in the future changes it

[El Kabong]

The Steelers are deeply and completely clueless in regards to the QB and WR positions for 3 coaches now

You're including Noll in that? And it was the Cowher regime that drafted Ben.

[El Kabong]

With the current makeup of the team, I don't see the Steelers blowing anyone out, no.

Who on the Steelers remaining schedule are the Steelers so much better than that they could blow them out?

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Steelers are deeply and completely clueless in regards to the QB and WR positions for 3 coaches now

You're including Noll in that? And it was the Cowher regime that drafted Ben.

Noll would be rightfully fired if he did Terry the way he did today

Cowher landing Ben was much more luck than well executed plan

[swissvale72]

As ive always said....we dont really enjoy these games, we suffer through, and hope we're happy in the end.

And gotta say....i enjoy the hell out of these close wins. Love the tension.

[RemoAZ]

If we're up by 10 at any point in the first half, Tomlin starts working the clock. Pretty much any lead at half time and he's in full on running out the clock mode. One of the many infuriating things about Tomlin's coaching.

[swissvale72]

If we're up by 10 at any point in the first half, Tomlin starts working the clock. Pretty much any lead at half time and he's in full on running out the clock mode. One of the many infuriating things about Tomlin's coaching.

Sorry, was NOT the case on sunday

[stillthere]

So the incomplete to Muuuth was a 4 point swing
the incomplete jump ball to Johnson in the endzone was a 4 point swing
there was one other FG drive that we had a drop or incomplete on that was a 4 point swing.

If we had scored those 3 TD's instead of FG's (which is the next part of development for a young offense). The Steelers would of had an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter. I am not sure if that is blowing them out enough for anyone but it is a better footing than 6 or 10 points. It also would of made Atlanta one dimensional in the second half and taken away the running game. When forced to pass and the D knew it was coming we get the Minkah play which could have gone for an additional TD instead of a kneel down in victory formation.

[Stillchest]

If we're up by 10 at any point in the first half, Tomlin starts working the clock. Pretty much any lead at half time and he's in full on running out the clock mode. One of the many infuriating things about Tomlin's coaching.

Sorry, was NOT the case on sunday

It’s always the case with Tomlin’s offense.

Attrition, small ball is always going to be the problem.

Only a dinosaur HC would employ it.

[rooneytunes]

I understand this is the way the NFL likes it and also the reason the Steelers play is also (main) reason.

But how about maybe just once?

I did some research and this is scary.

Since week 10 in 2020 when Steelers beat Jaguars 27-3 to go to 10-0. Since then including playoffs, Steelers are 16-20-1

Of the 16 wins TWO are by more than one score. Ben's last game last year vs Browns (and Harris got a garbage time td at the end to make the score that) and this year vs Saints.

Of the 20 losses TWELVE were by more than one score.

[Jizz Mop]

I understand this is the way the NFL likes it and also the reason the Steelers play is also (main) reason.

But how about maybe just once?

I did some research and this is scary.

Since week 10 in 2020 when Steelers beat Jaguars 27-3 to go to 10-0. Since then including playoffs, Steelers are 16-20-1

Of the 16 wins TWO are by more than one score. Ben's last game last year vs Browns (and Harris got a garbage time td at the end to make the score that) and this year vs Saints.

Of the 20 losses TWELVE were by more than one score.

Yeah, blowouts? Comfortable wins? We know nothing about those. If it’s a win, it’s a painful win.

[Orangesteel]

I understand this is the way the NFL likes it and also the reason the Steelers play is also (main) reason.

But how about maybe just once?

I did some research and this is scary.

Since week 10 in 2020 when Steelers beat Jaguars 27-3 to go to 10-0. Since then including playoffs, Steelers are 16-20-1

Of the 16 wins TWO are by more than one score. Ben's last game last year vs Browns (and Harris got a garbage time td at the end to make the score that) and this year vs Saints.

Of the 20 losses TWELVE were by more than one score.

The Steelers have been marginally good since 2017, but we’ve also been terrible in a lot of games. Really bad.

[Mick]

I don’t think there’s any trick to it, all of those things are simply reality when you are a bad football team.

Record below .500? Wins are close? Losses are big? That’s what happens with bad teams. And really, we were a lot worse than our record; we got clutchlucky in many close games.

When we were significantly better than our opponents, we won big frequently.

[Deebo]

I understand this is the way the NFL likes it and also the reason the Steelers play is also (main) reason.

But how about maybe just once?

I did some research and this is scary.

Since week 10 in 2020 when Steelers beat Jaguars 27-3 to go to 10-0. Since then including playoffs, Steelers are 16-20-1

Of the 16 wins TWO are by more than one score. Ben's last game last year vs Browns (and Harris got a garbage time td at the end to make the score that) and this year vs Saints.

Of the 20 losses TWELVE were by more than one score.

And you wonder why this team always has injuries to it's RB's and key players....