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Post by Charles Demarr » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:34 pm

To the Lions...


In their current state, I hate everything about this organization.

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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:39 pm

For like the exact contract everyone assumed we were going to give him.

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Post by Stillchest » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:39 pm

Charles Demarr wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:34 pm
To the Lions...
Yep, $33 mil/ 3 years.

$22 mil guaranteed.

Meanwhile, the Steelers are thankful they have a backup QB for &10 mil.

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Post by DP39 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:40 pm

Lions signed CB Cameron Sutton, formerly of the Steelers, to a three-year, $33 million contract.

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Glad we didn't pay him that. $11M per is more than I think he's worth. I would've gone $8M per for 3 years max.

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Post by Korey39 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:41 pm

It would've been better to keep him but fortunately this CB class is so deep we could draft a CB in the 1st and one in the 4th/6th and still come away with two solid starters.

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:42 pm

Meanwhile Tomlin sitting on his couch watching the Flintstones with Dino and the gang.
“Ahhh so glad free agency doesn’t start until Wednesday”
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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:46 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:42 pm
Meanwhile Tomlin sitting on his couch watching the Flintstones with Dino and the gang.
“Ahhh so glad free agency doesn’t start until Wednesday”
:lol:

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm

I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17

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Post by Charles Demarr » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:52 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm
I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17
I said the exact same thing in another thread. Now they sprint to the podium for Porter Jr, or reach for the next best available like they did with Artie Burns.
In their current state, I hate everything about this organization.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:54 pm

Charles Demarr wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:52 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm
I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17
I said the exact same thing in another thread. Now they sprint to the podium for Porter Jr, or reach for the next best available like they did with Artie Burns.
Nepotism and drafting specific position of need, what could happen?

Fuck us

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:02 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm
I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17
Oh absolutely! Joey Porter Jr…come on down!

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Post by Stillchest » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:04 pm

Jobu wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:02 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm
I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17
Oh absolutely! Joey Porter Jr…come on down!
They might even waste valuable draft capital, by moving up for him.

They’ll have like four draftees total 😂
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:05 pm

While I was hoping to retain Sutton and won't pretend he didn't play well last season, Sutton was on a "prove it" deal for a reason.

He didn't prove much until last season.

Good luck to him.
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Post by Charles Demarr » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:07 pm

My guess is Rock Ya Sin because Tomlin loved him during the draft process a few years back and a podium sprint for Porter Jr.
In their current state, I hate everything about this organization.

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Post by stairway 2 seven » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:08 pm

Gerry Dulac should stay out of predicting fa moves.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:10 pm

Charles Demarr wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:07 pm
My guess is Rock Ya Sin because Tomlin loved him during the draft process a few years back and a podium sprint for Porter Jr.
Not unrealistic

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Post by Ice » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:14 pm

Hopefully Roc is currently on the phone.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:15 pm

Stillchest post :shock: wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:04 pm
Jobu wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:02 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 pm
I may be in the minority but that’s a really bad start to FA

I didn’t want to be handcuffed :shock: into taking a CB at 17

Now I doubt they don’t take CB at 17
Oh absolutely! Joey Porter Jr…come on down!
They might even waste valuable draft capital, by moving up for him.

They’ll have like four draftees total 😂
Yikes! :shock: :shock:

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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:19 pm

There is some stupid money being thrown around today.

Hargrave going to the 49ers at 4 years, $80m :shock:

Denver is signing O-Lineman left and right. Oh, Baltimore just cut Calais Campbell and Ben Powers is now a Bronco. Love to see it :D


On Sutton, feels weird that he just got more $ than Jonathan Jones.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:22 pm

Korey39 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:41 pm
It would've been better to keep him but fortunately this CB class is so deep we could draft a CB in the 1st and one in the 4th/6th and still come away with two solid starters.
If only we had enough picks to fill the holes before Cam Sutton left.
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Post by cop1211 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:22 pm

Yep, it’s a lock for CB at 17, Porter if he’s gone it will be Banks.
Stupid. Just keep the Never had losing season streak going, and we’ll be good with that.

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Post by JackLambert58 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:25 pm

Korey39 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:41 pm
It would've been better to keep him but fortunately this CB class is so deep we could draft a CB in the 1st and one in the 4th/6th and still come away with two solid starters.
Yes because the Steelers have been so successful at drafting CB's over the Tomlin years.
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Post by Stillchest » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:29 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:22 pm
Yep, it’s a lock for CB at 17, Porter if he’s gone it will be Banks.
Stupid. Just keep the Never had losing season streak going, and we’ll be good with that.
And this is exactly the Steelers mindset.

The goal each season is not to suck…too much.

Any better results is just a cherry atop the sundae.

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Post by Stillchest » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:31 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:22 pm
Korey39 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:41 pm
It would've been better to keep him but fortunately this CB class is so deep we could draft a CB in the 1st and one in the 4th/6th and still come away with two solid starters.
If only we had enough picks to fill the holes before Cam Sutton left.
You mean, you didn’t enjoy the results of the Malik Reed trade? 😆😂

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Post by TTP » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:33 pm

Yeesh, even with Sutton the Steeler's CBs are......not good. They now need to sign someone AND draft a CB high just to get back to....not good.

CB is a huge blind spot for the organization. Might be the most important position on defense but the Steelers don't treat it that way.

Analytics of player movement data show coverage is more important than pass rush with respect to overall pass defense. As with most things analytics, the Steelers think the exact opposite.

Better hope TJ stays healthy and gets like 30 sacks this year.

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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:35 pm

Well....if Sutton is out and they cut Witherspoon then they can afford Jamel Dean.

I can dream.

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Post by cop1211 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:41 pm

Stillchest wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:29 pm
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:22 pm
Yep, it’s a lock for CB at 17, Porter if he’s gone it will be Banks.
Stupid. Just keep the Never had losing season streak going, and we’ll be good with that.
And this is exactly the Steelers mindset.

The goal each season is not to suck…too much.

Any better results is just a cherry atop the sundae.
As long as we can still sell out the stadium, it’s all good.

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Post by Stillchest » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:41 pm

TTP wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:33 pm
Yeesh, even with Sutton the Steeler's CBs are......not good. They now need to sign someone AND draft a CB high just to get back to....not good.

CB is a huge blind spot for the organization. Might be the most important position on defense but the Steelers don't treat it that way.

Analytics of player movement data show coverage is more important than pass rush with respect to overall pass defense. As with most things analytics, the Steelers think the exact opposite.

Better hope TJ stays healthy and gets like 30 sacks this year.
No worries….Steelers will win with their ferocious pass rush.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:45 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:42 pm
Meanwhile Tomlin sitting on his couch watching the Flintstones with Dino and the gang.
“Ahhh so glad free agency doesn’t start until Wednesday”
Don’t necessarily see why this is Tomlin rather than Kahn.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:46 pm

Maybe the Steelers don’t see Sutton’s abilities as worth that much coin?
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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