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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:04 pm

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Dan Moore.

Sigh.

Hard to fathom a football organization held with such high regard as our beloved Pittsburgh Steelers, thought it was a good idea to protect Kenny Pickett’s blindside with a 4th round flier like Dan freaking Moore.

But

It happened.

Exit Kevin Colbert (thank God)

Enter

The Khan Artist

Being the UGA transplant homer that I am, I loved the aggressive trade up for Broderick Jones.

Why he wasn’t inserted in his natural LT position is an entirely different discussion.
We can only hope his year at RT hasn’t slowed his development.

I can’t emphasize enough the importance of the offensive line AND its coach.
Makes the whole offense go or in the case of our Steelers, NOT GO.

Hopefully, Artie Smith has something to offer here because Pat Meyer impresses me not.

So with Chuks sent packing and the Dan Moore experiment an abject failure, Weidl-Khan will once again be in search of offensive tackle talent this offseason.

Most NFL teams don’t let their premium offensive line talent hit the open market, so to say I’m not impressed with the UFA’s this year is an understatement:

Jonah Williams Bengals- Sure I Roll Tide, but the appeal here is position versatility and poaching from Burrow and the Bengals.
Jermaine Eluemunor Raiders- Horse manure? Perhaps. I see another versatile player that would seem to fit the Steelers’ hole filling profile.
Michael Onwenu Pats- Big scUM right here. RT or even interior presence only (told ya this list sucked)
Donovan Smith Chiefs- Happy Valley fans know him well. Serviceable type when healthy.
Yosh Nijman Packers- No shame in losing your job to rookie stud Zach Tom.
Mekhi Becton Jets- BIG Bust. Reclamation project for our new OL coach…oh wait…never mind.

The Steelers (and our guy B2B) aren’t pigeonholed into drafting one position, but most of the mocks I’ve read have the Steelers taking either corner, Oregon JPJ, OR tapping into a deep group of OT prospects.

The intrigue for me will come not so much with the player or the position picked as much as I want to see if the Khan-artist moves up for his target like last year, or trades down and acquires some much needed draft capital.

I really like the idea of trading down and STILL getting a stud OT from this deep group:

Joe Alt and Ola Fashanu will be long gone. STUDS.
Taliese Fuaga Oregon St- Probably gone too. Dig him, BUT the Duck ends gave him fits. Saw it with my own eyes I did.
Amarius Mims Georgia- Back to the Georgia well for a high ceiling RT with only 15 career starts.
JC Latham Alabama- Combine will be interesting for Latham. Injured his knee on last play of the scUM loss. Been reading he may project to OG.
Troy Fautanu Washington- Going to insert him in here. I think he can stay at LT.
Tyler Guyton Oklahoma- Dancing bear showed off his sweet feet down in Mobile.
Jordan Morgan Arizona- Athletic LT I’ve been reading could convert to OG
Kingsley Suamataia BYU- Former Duck sliding into rd 2 mocks of late. DEEP OT group.
Patrick Paul Houston- Mixed reviews down in Mobile but offers LT experience.
Kiran Amegadgie Yale- You’ve never seen him play either.
Javon Foster Missouri- Yet another solid showing down in Mobile.
Blake Fisher Notre Dame- I’m going to stop now because this could go on for a while. Again, DEEP position group.

Thanks as always for reading. Please comment on the players you like and those you don’t. This is just for talking point purposes. I think the Steelers should keep bolstering the trenches. I see the secondary as a barren wasteland of shit and want that area upgraded as well. But until that franchise qb arrives and Tomlin rides off into the sunset I see nothing else to do but hope the Steelers can string together a string of strong drafts in the wake of Colbert being asleep at the wheel.


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Post by jebrick » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:59 pm

Suamataia is very good. Could go in the 1st.

Would not be surprised if 7 OTs are takenin the 1st round this year.

I still think the Steelers try and get Powers-Johnson unless the Eagles jump them.
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Post by Pabst » Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:14 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:04 pm
Javon Foster Missouri- Yet another solid showing down in Mobile.
Well....what's the Steelers plan for the Offense/O-Line going forward? I think an underrated problem for the Steelers over the past 2 or 3 years has been the fact that they've flipped back and forth between zone, power, and everything in between.

The other question is what the long term plan is for Broderick Jones. Keep him at RT or move him over?


That brings me to Javon Foster: Good footwork to wall off rushers, and he's great at picking off LBs at the 2nd level and on the move. He is not going to blow anyone off the LOS and he'll struggle with power rushers in the NFL. I like him as a player, but how I view him as a prospect really depends on how teams plan to use him in the NFL.

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Post by Charles Demarr » Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 am

jebrick wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:59 pm
Suamataia is very good. Could go in the 1st.

Would not be surprised if 7 OTs are takenin the 1st round this year.

I still think the Steelers try and get Powers-Johnson unless the Eagles jump them.
I don’t pay close enough attention to the Eagles, I thought they just drafted Landon Dickerson a few years back. Didn’t he play center?

Drama, love the positional analysis posts. Appreciate all the excellent content.

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Post by Jobu » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:00 am

Charles Demarr wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 am
jebrick wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:59 pm
Suamataia is very good. Could go in the 1st.

Would not be surprised if 7 OTs are takenin the 1st round this year.

I still think the Steelers try and get Powers-Johnson unless the Eagles jump them.
I don’t pay close enough attention to the Eagles, I thought they just drafted Landon Dickerson a few years back. Didn’t he play center?

Drama, love the positional analysis posts. Appreciate all the excellent content.
Dickerson plays guard for the Eagles.
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Post by Steeldrama » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:05 am

Jobu wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:00 am
Charles Demarr wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 am
jebrick wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:59 pm
Suamataia is very good. Could go in the 1st.

Would not be surprised if 7 OTs are takenin the 1st round this year.

I still think the Steelers try and get Powers-Johnson unless the Eagles jump them.
I don’t pay close enough attention to the Eagles, I thought they just drafted Landon Dickerson a few years back. Didn’t he play center?

Drama, love the positional analysis posts. Appreciate all the excellent content.
Dickerson plays guard for the Eagles.
Dickerson played center at Bama…at a very high level

The Eagles RG Cam Jurgens played center at Utah

They have in house options
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Post by Jobu » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:13 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:05 am
Jobu wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:00 am
Charles Demarr wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 am


I don’t pay close enough attention to the Eagles, I thought they just drafted Landon Dickerson a few years back. Didn’t he play center?

Drama, love the positional analysis posts. Appreciate all the excellent content.
Dickerson plays guard for the Eagles.
Dickerson played center at Bama…at a very high level

The Eagles RG Cam Jurgens played center at Utah

They have in house options
True.
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Post by ol skool » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:30 pm

Most interested in Mims, Guyton and Fisher for RT, and moving Jones back to LT.

Don't know if Moore's cap hit means we can keep him as #2 LT, but we could do worse for a backup.

Will have to look more at Free Agent OTs. I still can't see the Steelers drafting a C and OT in the first three rounds AND starting both. Seems more likely we'd go FA for one position and draft the other.

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Post by Charles Demarr » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:38 pm

Fuaga would be the dream scenario at 20, unfortunately that's probably not happening.

Mims or Guyton would be the 2 other guys I would like at OT in the first.

I think they need to double dip on O linemen with the first 2 picks. The FA crop at C and OT is very uninspiring to say the least. I can't take another year of Moore and Cole.

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Post by cop1211 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:46 pm

I can’t decide which I like better/ would be better.

1.RT Mims-Fuaga-Guyton
2.OC Frazier
3.DE Mason Smith
Or

1.OC Powers Johnson
2.CB Tampa
3.RT Fisher

The problem is you never know who’s going to be available.
Do they think OC is more important because they believe worst case scenario they can trot Moore out there for another year? Maybe they go RT in free agency??
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Post by jebrick » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:32 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:46 pm
I can’t decide which I like better/ would be better.

1.RT Mims-Fuaga-Guyton
2.OC Frazier
3.DE/ILB/CB/S
Or

1.OC Powers Johnson
2.CB/ILB/S
3.RT Fisher

The problem is you never know who’s going to be available.
Do they think OC is more important because they believe worst case scenario they can trot Moore out there for another year? Maybe they go RT in free agency??
Guyton is so raw he might not be butchered yet. I would hate to take him at 20
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Post by Jobu » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:57 pm

Don't know if Moore's cap hit means we can keep him as #2 LT, but we could do worse for a backup.
It looks like Moore’s 2024 cap hit is about $1.3 million, very minimal. Moore will be on the roster. What his role will be remains to be seen.
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Post by Ice » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:21 pm

Jurgens is widely seen as the heir apparent at center in Philly.
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Post by Ice » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:01 am

Jobu wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:57 pm
Don't know if Moore's cap hit means we can keep him as #2 LT, but we could do worse for a backup.
It looks like Moore’s 2024 cap hit is about $1.3 million, very minimal. Moore will be on the roster. What his role will be remains to be seen.
Moore as an adequate backup at $1.3 mil, fine. Moore as a starter? Considerably less fine.
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Post by steelmann58 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:00 am

Anyone like the Tenn C as a FA

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Post by Steel Bingo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:18 pm

Missouri had some convincing performances, and played well in just about every game. Players from that team (Javon Foster) are likely to rise up some draft boards in the next couple months.

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Post by Ice » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:14 pm

Wasn't exactly a motivated group, but Darius Robinson ate tOSU's lunch in the bowl game this year. Respect, and a spot on my 2024 wish list. Already looks great in black and gold. Is LB Hopper really gonna run a 4.5 flat at 6'2", 220, and what are the rest of his combine numbers going to look like? Definitely some Tiger defensive prospects with my attention.

OT Foster (to keep it on topic) could be an interesting prospect, assuming with Smith we can make OL prospects (college and pro) better once acquired instead of actively making them worse.
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Post by smithessmokin » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:31 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:00 am
Anyone like the Tenn C as a FA
Yes, seen a few Titans games last year and think he’d be a upgrade over Cole…how much of one is the question.

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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:55 am

I see them drafting the best RT they have in the draft

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Post by jebrick » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:33 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:55 am
I see them drafting the best RT they have in the draft
They are already signaling center if Powers-Johnson is there.
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:18 pm

jebrick wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:33 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:55 am
I see them drafting the best RT they have in the draft
They are already signaling center if Powers-Johnson is there.
I think he goes to the Rams a pick Earlier

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Post by Jobu » Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:26 pm

JPJ or Frazier. Good chance one of them in the first.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:28 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:55 am
I see them drafting the best RT they have in the draft
I don’t think they’re going tackle before day three….if at all.
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Post by jebrick » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:52 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:18 pm
jebrick wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:33 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:55 am
I see them drafting the best RT they have in the draft
They are already signaling center if Powers-Johnson is there.
I think he goes to the Rams a pick Earlier
Weidl will move up then
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Post by jebrick » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 am

Tomlin, Khan, A. Smith and Austin to the Georgia Proday.

Mims, in typical Mims fashion, is hurt and did not work out. I am souring on him.
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Post by Steeldrama » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:04 pm

jebrick wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 am
Tomlin, Khan, A. Smith and Austin to the Georgia Proday.

Mims, in typical Mims fashion, is hurt and did not work out. I am souring on him.
It's the same hamstring injury from running the 40 at the combine (shit off stupid to make linemen run a 40).

Not a new injury.

But yes, my annoyance of the fragility of the modern athlete extends to the Georgia program.

For a coach who reputedly has a very physical and demanding program, a good many of Kirby's players are extremely fragile and soft.

Bama dealt with same issues (stands to reason Kirby from the Saban tree).

Mims was boom or bust before his injury plagued offseason.

My guess is he's there at 20.

If healthy (BIG IF) Mims is a STUD, but my hope is there's another OL (or player) ranked higher on the Steelers' draft board.

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Post by cop1211 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:14 pm

Id love Fuaga.

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Post by jebrick » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:18 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:14 pm
Id love Fuaga.
Pure RT. will be very good
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Post by jebrick » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:48 pm

Per Tony Pauline

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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:23 am

Think there wait till the middle rounds in this deep draft

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