Pick 1. 20 Troy Fautanu OL Washington

[VeritasSteel]

LT or RT does it matter? Now we have two nasty mofos who want to bury LBs in the run game. I could see us leading the league in unnecessary roughness calls by linemen. Diabolical.

[Steeldrama]

LT or RT does it matter? Now we have two nasty mofos who want to bury LBs in the run game. I could see us leading the league in unnecessary roughness calls by linemen. Diabolical.

Valid

[Jobu]

LT or RT does it matter? Now we have two nasty mofos who want to bury LBs in the run game. I could see us leading the league in unnecessary roughness calls by linemen. Diabolical.

Gawd I hope not. This offense isn’t being built to overcome penalties.

[.Kodiak]

I could get behind some bully ball. Problem is Meyer again took half a season to get those guys together. First year can be excused, but the second year with almost all the same guys is a major point of concern.

Although I suppose if they round into a mauling machine a slow start doesn't matter. Pretty much destined for a 6-7 seed, regardless.

But they're all in for [one] playoff win!!!!!

[anpsteel]

I could get behind some bully ball. Problem is Meyer again took half a season to get those guys together. First year can be excused, but the second year with almost all the same guys is a major point of concern.

Although I suppose if they round into a mauling machine a slow start doesn't matter. Pretty much destined for a 6-7 seed, regardless.

But they're all in for [one] playoff win!!!!!

I really wish they'd bring back Munch-

Of course it isn't happening, but it would certainly make a difference.

[Jobu]

I could get behind some bully ball. Problem is Meyer again took half a season to get those guys together. First year can be excused, but the second year with almost all the same guys is a major point of concern.

Although I suppose if they round into a mauling machine a slow start doesn't matter. Pretty much destined for a 6-7 seed, regardless.

But they're all in for [one] playoff win!!!!!

Baby steps…

[cop1211]

If they were smart they’d call Munchak and make him the highest paid oline coach in the league.

[Steelafan77]

If they were smart they’d call Munchak and make him the highest paid oline coach in the league.

This IS Pittsburgh we’re talking about…., by that I mean status quo.

[anpsteel]

If they were smart they’d call Munchak and make him the highest paid oline coach in the league.

This IS Pittsburgh we’re talking about…., by that I mean status quo.

I don’t even think that’s it.


I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

That could be Tomlins pride or something equally petty

Tomlin was asked about bringing Munchack back, early on in the offseason, and his response was short and clipped

I’m paraphrasing, but his response was, “we’re happy with who we have.” Completely dismissing the question, or potential improvement in bringing back Munch


Tomlin is a dolt

[Professor Half Wit]

If they were smart they’d call Munchak and make him the highest paid oline coach in the league.

This IS Pittsburgh we’re talking about…., by that I mean status quo.

I don’t even think that’s it.


I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

That could be Tomlins pride or something equally petty

Tomlin was asked about bringing Munchack back, early on in the offseason, and his response was short and clipped

I’m paraphrasing, but his response was, “we’re happy with who we have.” Completely dismissing the question, or potential improvement in bringing back Munch


Tomlin is a dolt

Is Tomlin's response you cite really dispositive, though, or anything like dispositive?

[anpsteel]

This IS Pittsburgh we’re talking about…., by that I mean status quo.

I don’t even think that’s it.


I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

That could be Tomlins pride or something equally petty

Tomlin was asked about bringing Munchack back, early on in the offseason, and his response was short and clipped

I’m paraphrasing, but his response was, “we’re happy with who we have.” Completely dismissing the question, or potential improvement in bringing back Munch


Tomlin is a dolt

Is Tomlin's response you cite really dispositive, though, or anything like dispositive?

The response indicated it wasn’t even in consideration

That you wouldn’t consider bringing in a coach, who would clearly be an improvement, in an area the team is severely lacking is telling.

Mind you, Munchack was asked about coming back, and his response seemed to be open to it.


Take that for what you will

[.Kodiak]

I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

Yes, the issue is Tomlin is a dumbass and Munchak knows it.

[anpsteel]

I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

Yes, the issue is Tomlin is a dumbass and Munchak knows it.

I wouldn’t rule that out

[Professor Half Wit]

I don’t even think that’s it.


I think there is some “issue” between he and Tomlin.

That could be Tomlins pride or something equally petty

Tomlin was asked about bringing Munchack back, early on in the offseason, and his response was short and clipped

I’m paraphrasing, but his response was, “we’re happy with who we have.” Completely dismissing the question, or potential improvement in bringing back Munch


Tomlin is a dolt

Is Tomlin's response you cite really dispositive, though, or anything like dispositive?

The response indicated it wasn’t even in consideration

That you wouldn’t consider bringing in a coach, who would clearly be an improvement, in an area the team is severely lacking is telling.

Mind you, Munchack was asked about coming back, and his response seemed to be open to it.


Take that for what you will

That's hardly a sign of an "issue" between Tomlin an Munchak. It tells Tomlin likes who they have, not that there's an "issue." Sure, there could be.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Some of you are really off the rails

Lolololz

1. No HC mid season in a press conference is going to give any indication they wanna get rid of who they have. Particularly not when they are under fire. Lolololz

2. Let’s be honest. Munchak is a good OL coach but a failure as anything more than that. He left the Steelers and went somewhere else to coach when he was pretty much gifted a job for life as the Steelers OL coach. If Tomlin genuinely is a little cool on him at this point it’s because Munchak earned it.


3. Tomlin has some legitimate faults. Manufacturing endless bs at every turn in regards to him is insubordinate and churlish

[anpsteel]

Some of you are really off the rails

Lolololz

1. No HC mid season in a press conference is going to give any indication they wanna get rid of who they have. Particularly not when they are under fire. Lolololz

2. Let’s be honest. Munchak is a good OL coach but a failure as anything more than that. He left the Steelers and went somewhere else to coach when he was pretty much gifted a job for life as the Steelers OL coach. If Tomlin genuinely is a little cool on him at this point it’s because Munchak earned it.


3. Tomlin has some legitimate faults. Manufacturing endless bs at every turn in regards to him is insubordinate and churlish

Some of you can’t read.


I clearly stated, off season

[anpsteel]

Is Tomlin's response you cite really dispositive, though, or anything like dispositive?

The response indicated it wasn’t even in consideration

That you wouldn’t consider bringing in a coach, who would clearly be an improvement, in an area the team is severely lacking is telling.

Mind you, Munchack was asked about coming back, and his response seemed to be open to it.


Take that for what you will

That's hardly a sign of an "issue" between Tomlin an Munchak. It tells Tomlin likes who they have, not that there's an "issue." Sure, there could be.

I despise Tomlin as a coach.

Does that taint how I perceive his actions and words?

Absolutely

But let’s be clear, the fantastic line coach they currently have,- who wasn’t in consideration for being replaced by possibly the best line coach they’ve had in decades,- is so good, they let go two drafted oline picks, that they couldn’t get to perform. They then went on to be good to excellent starters on other teams.

Net net: I have little faith in Meyer or Tomlin

[franco32]

I spent a lot of time watching Fautanu film this weekend. I had seen Washington games but never focused that much on him. Now I understand why. Nobody does anything against him.

He's not only an athletic freak but his technique is outstanding. (I know he's older, but he's MUCH more advanced than Broderick).

I'm now ELATED we picked him. Here is a nice breakdown of Martz analyzing him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2SV4-mQnY

[Jobu]

I spent a lot of time watching Fautanu film this weekend. I had seen Washington games but never focused that much on him. Now I understand why. Nobody doesn't anything against him.

He's not only an athletic freak but his technique is outstanding. (I know he's older, but he's MUCH more advanced than Broderick).

I'm now ELATED we picked him. Here is a nice breakdown of Martz analyzing him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2SV4-mQnY

I agree Franco. I didn’t know a lot about him, but after Steelers picked him, I’ve been watching and reading up on him. Technically, he’s about as good as it gets. Love the pick!

[CoolShades]

I spent a lot of time watching Fautanu film this weekend. I had seen Washington games but never focused that much on him. Now I understand why. Nobody does anything against him.

He's not only an athletic freak but his technique is outstanding. (I know he's older, but he's MUCH more advanced than Broderick).

I'm now ELATED we picked him. Here is a nice breakdown of Martz analyzing him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2SV4-mQnY

I don’t mind the pick, but isn’t he 24? His technique SHOULD be outstanding.

That’s also a big age difference in college. He was pushing around kids as young as 18. I’m not saying he isn’t good, but I’d be curious as to the age breakdown of the players he was lined up against.

[franco32]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

[bradshaw2ben]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

This might be the oldest Steelers draft class of all time, 23.36 years of age average for the 7 picks.

[jmacinwbp]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

This might be the oldest Steelers draft class of all time, 23.36 years of age average for the 7 picks.

My guess is that even when the COVID influence on players staying the extra year is done, the increasing amount of NIL $$$ players get is going to cause the average ages of most subsequent drafts to be in this range from here on out.

Making a decent wage will probably incentivize some of the best players to stay for 3-4 years of college.

[Deebo]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

This might be the oldest Steelers draft class of all time, 23.36 years of age average for the 7 picks.

Would hypothesize that other teams had a similar draft class avg age.

[bradshaw2ben]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

This might be the oldest Steelers draft class of all time, 23.36 years of age average for the 7 picks.

Would hypothesize that other teams had a similar draft class avg age.

I'll take a look at the teams who drafted some of the youngest players and see what I can see.

[Mick]

He's 23. Given COVID and all of that, I can live with someone turning 24 mid-season. There is another way to look at this. Not everyone he was facing was young. COVID created a lot of older players in college football and so that is a factor. Also, I don't mind an older player IF the extra year makes him more pro-ready and IF he's still athletically a freak (which Fautanu is).

The problem with older players who are not athletic freaks or outliers is that they have no margin to get better. I think Fautanu will just get better and better and you can't teach that long wingspan, wide base, and great feet (along with core strength and punch).

This might be the oldest Steelers draft class of all time, 23.36 years of age average for the 7 picks.

My guess is that even when the COVID influence on players staying the extra year is done, the increasing amount of NIL $$$ players get is going to cause the average ages of most subsequent drafts to be in this range from here on out.

Making a decent wage will probably incentivize some of the best players to stay for 3-4 years of college.

i’m sure NIL will have some impact, but the main factor is that every player who has come out over the past 4 drafts has had a minimum of 5 years of eligibility, 6 years with redshirt. 2025 will be the first draft since 2019 where some players will be out of eligibility after only 4 years in college. Average draft pick age will decline over the next ~3 years as the six year eligibility track fades away.

[bradshaw2ben]

BROWNS: Michael Hall, Zack Zinter, Jamar Thrash, Myles Harden, Bubba Watson: avg age 22.7

That should be one of the younger classes... Michael Hall was like the thrid youngest in the class and Harden is also on the young side.

So, only a half-year difference.

[stillthere]

I wonder if Tomlin called Adrian Klemm and when Klemm said he did not like Fautanu then that sealed the deal that the kid may be good.

[Steelafan77]

https://youtu.be/7dnmgIbErpw?si=iFsOnQfpNeUPOa9P

Looks like Troy has been playing RT. For whatever reason I’m not able to embed the actual video.

[anpsteel]

well Tomlin's general position of, draft em young, so the team gets more out of them, has proven to be useless.. so you might as well draft a more developed, quicker to start, player.