Furians, Was the Minkah Interception Revealing?

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Furians, Was the Minkah Interception Revealing?

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:28 pm

I kind of feel like it was another water shed moment. I knew Canada blew and he did and was fired! I can’t prove it, but I know they are using Minkah incorrectly and our overall team suffers under this conservative defensive yoke!

He was put in the Robber position and immediately gets a pick. Why the fuck don’t they redo the defense to get him closer to the traffic?

They were so enamored with getting another Shazier and lost sight of trying to to get another Troy P who can intercept and clip ankles and blow up run plays.

Am I the only one that sees this?



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Post by 955876 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:41 pm

Jibbs knows defense. He’s a football junkie.

Never question the wisdom of the Jibba Jabber Magic 8 ball approach to schematically increasing our chances to defend blades of grass.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:32 pm

955876 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:41 pm
Jibbs knows defense. He’s a football junkie.

Never question the wisdom of the Jibba Jabber Magic 8 ball approach to schematically increasing our chances to defend blades of grass.
Laughing! He would be like a Wall Street guy if you sat down and started talking deep football. Your eyes would roll back and all the terminology and acronyms would start flying. I’d bust out my sound bites per Ryan Gosling character so I didn’t sound like a jagoff.

Couple of my buddies are basketball coaches…Get them alone; great conversationalists; once they make eye contact, they can’t help themselves, night is ruined. Basketball until “it’s closing time”!

It feels like all Minkah does it stay in the middle of the field and run full speed towards one side or the other. Maybe they throw his way or not. Nobody fears Minkah. How could they? He is too deep and too in the middle in a completely risk averse position and part of the field! I am sure there is some lack of QB sneak equivalent that Minkah isn’t doing because of some drug deal with Tomlin and Austin. It is probably the full speed ankle tackle in the flats!

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:07 pm

The WR stopped his route...
I believe that is why the pick.
Minka numbers on INts and passed defended pretty poor last two years.
1. This year, and last.... hee's been playing 15-20 yards deep and back pedaling pre-snap.

Seems like he played more snaps closer to line of scrimmage Saturday?
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:15 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:07 pm
The WR stopped his route...
I believe that is why the pick.
Minka numbers on INts and passed defended pretty poor last two years.
1. This year, and last.... hee's been playing 15-20 yards deep and back pedaling pre-snap.

Seems like he played more snaps closer to line of scrimmage Saturday?
Agree. I believe Brady said he was playing the Robber position, which I assume Elliott would often be found playing for the Steelers during certain packages?

I have zero clue because I have not watched all 22 to answer and you just can’t see this from regular TV.

It just seems like he is being misused as some on field coach and Field General. Has anyone counted the number of coaches on the payroll? They need players not coaches and I think Minkah is a player being misused. Can someone with some secondary or safety knowledge elaborate on this theory?

I am with Stosh on the 15-20 yards deep and pedaling backwards at snap. That is the problem!

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:01 am

Marsha Brady, did comment on him playing closer to the line and in traffic due to injury to others.

He called it and I believed mentioned we may see him flash today because of it. Or, some such comment.

Not surprised at all that our coaches misuse players this often. Grab bag of coordinators and a head coach that’s outclassed in the playoffs every year. They really are embarrassing. Square peg, round hole. NHALS, “yay”.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:38 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:15 pm
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:07 pm
The WR stopped his route...
I believe that is why the pick.
Minka numbers on INts and passed defended pretty poor last two years.
1. This year, and last.... hee's been playing 15-20 yards deep and back pedaling pre-snap.

Seems like he played more snaps closer to line of scrimmage Saturday?
Agree. I believe Brady said he was playing the Robber position, which I assume Elliott would often be found playing for the Steelers during certain packages?

I have zero clue because I have not watched all 22 to answer and you just can’t see this from regular TV.

It just seems like he is being misused as some on field coach and Field General. Has anyone counted the number of coaches on the payroll? They need players not coaches and I think Minkah is a player being misused. Can someone with some secondary or safety knowledge elaborate on this theory?

I am with Stosh on the 15-20 yards deep and pedaling backwards at snap. That is the problem!
Minka.
Absolutely misused Lake.
As is Darnell Washington...
As is Mike Williams.

As is not getting Herbig more snaps since Highsmith came back... the defensive design of not getting all 3 OLBs on field at the same time.
Or moving them around to create miss matches.
Herbig has shown to be a play maker.
Playing safe...playing not to lose.
Lack of blitzing...
Elimination of Safety blitz. Nickel blitz? Corner blitz.
.... just vanilla ...vanilla bean

And on the opposite end....overuse of less talented players.
Heyward and Pruit at TE.
Heyward at blocking FB...when he is not even a blocking TE
The overuse and love affair with the oddballs...#11, #13 and #15.
Insistence of using 56 year old Patterson on kick returns. And his 40% carry and targeting rate when he is on field
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:35 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:28 pm
I kind of feel like it was another water shed moment. I knew Canada blew and he did and was fired! I can’t prove it, but I know they are using Minkah incorrectly and our overall team suffers under this conservative defensive yoke!

He was put in the Robber position and immediately gets a pick. Why the fuck don’t they redo the defense to get him closer to the traffic?

They were so enamored with getting another Shazier and lost sight of trying to to get another Troy P who can intercept and clip ankles and blow up run plays.

Am I the only one that sees this?
He also fucked up a red zone coverage that resulted in an easy TD, so maybe it's better he's playing off the ball and out of the play most of the time.
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Post by jebrick » Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 pm

This is why the Elliot injury is bigger than normal. Against KC, they NEED Minkah playing CF.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:01 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:38 am
And on the opposite end....overuse of less talented players.
Heyward and Pruit at TE.
Heyward at blocking FB...when he is not even a blocking TE
The overuse and love affair with the oddballs...#11, #13 and #15.
Insistence of using 56 year old Patterson on kick returns. And his 40% carry and targeting rate when he is on field
Tomlin usually seems to have an undersized TE on the roster who can neither block nor catch. It's like he fell in love with the idea of having a Chris Cooley H-Back type player 15 years ago and keeps trying to find one. These guys add nothing to the offense and tend to cost the Steelers in big spots.

Remember David Johnson? He was the 2010 team's version of Connor Heyward / Mycole Pruitt, and he helped the Steelers lose Super Bowl XLV by whiffing on the block that got Mendenhall destroyed. Tomlin kept David Johnson on the roster for years.

Remember Xavier Grimble? He kicked off the collapse that ruined the 2018 season by trying to showboat and run over a Broncos defender instead of taking an easy touchdown, ending up getting destroyed by that Broncos defender and fumbling out of the endzone, which ended up being the difference in the loss (which was the difference between making and missing the playoffs). He was also on the roster for several years.

This year we have not one, but two of this type of roster spot waster with Connor Heyward and Pruitt. Anytime these guys are on the field is a win for the opposing defense. Compound that with having guys like Skowronek and Scotty Miller and Van Jefferson getting major snaps and you have an offense that's simply bereft of talent compared to the real contenders.

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Post by 955876 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:19 pm

Elimination of Safety blitz. Nickel blitz? Corner blitz.
.... just vanilla ...vanilla bean

And yet week in and week out, year after year we always hear bout oh we just had “communication issues”.

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Post by 955876 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:20 pm

And on the opposite end....overuse of less talented players.
Heyward and Pruit at TE.
Heyward at blocking FB...when he is not even a blocking TE
The overuse and love affair with the oddballs...#11, #13 and #15.
Insistence of using 56 year old Patterson on kick returns. And his 40% carry and targeting rate when he is on field
It’s pathetic.

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