The Elephant in the room

[rooneytunes]

I don't want to go there. BUT. Is it a question? Is it part of this?

Is the reason Art II will not do what is needed because, well......

I mean it is called "The Rooney Rule"

Is Art thinking of the perception? I mean there should not be but if it happens there will be people saying things and Art doesn't want to deal with it?

Hate to bring up the topic but

[swissvale72]

Could be part of it, but not necessarily. I think more the issue is that The Douchebag Art II is just that, a fuckin douchebag who gets off on both only three coaches in 55 years and NHALS. To be sure, there would be some level of outcry in Pittsburgh's black community if Tomlin were fired, but I think it's more the things I've cited....and...that fuckin douchebag wants his team to be in the image of running the ball and that bullshit. As Brian batko of the PG said of Rooney..."firing Tomlin would be like firing himself."

[franco32]

It's 90% of the reason IMO. The other 10% is not wanting to eat the contract money. It's shameful leadership by Art 2

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

If Tomlin was fired in 2012 and we didn’t have any success, the asshats would be running that stupid word out all the time

He’s had 18 years of actual work

His message and coaching is stale for todays NFL

It’s results, we don’t care about the color of his skin.

If it’s related to this rule. I think the rule is not even used anymore quite honestly

[LakecrestSteeler]

It's 90% of the reason IMO. The other 10% is not wanting to eat the contract money. It's shameful leadership by Art 2

Then hire another minority of he is hung up on it. Are we to believe that if you cast the net over all minorities there is not a rockstar coach out there in the NFL and college D1 ranks? I wouldn’t advise it, but it is an option.

Also the money aspect of it is BS too. He just got the $30 million bonus from signing Russ. Of course his whole biz might be on the verge of bankruptcy and we would not know it.

[Orangesteel]

The NFL doesn’t have term limits, but they kind of do in practice.

NFL franchises rarely give coaches more than 10 years to do their thing. Even if they win a Super Bowl.

We are nearing twice that with Tomlin.

That’s all you need to know. Rooney the Kid, the one that just got married, needs to get in his dad’s ear and do it now. Even Joe Starkey called for Tomlin’s head this morning and he has always been critical but never called for him to be fired.

The time is now.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

The NFL doesn’t have term limits, but they kind of do in practice.

NFL franchises rarely give coaches more than 10 years to do their thing. Even if they win a Super Bowl.

We are nearing twice that with Tomlin.

That’s all you need to know. Rooney the Kid, the one that just got married, needs to get in his dad’s ear and do it now. Even Joe Starkey called for Tomlin’s head this morning and he has always been critical but never called for him to be fired.

The time is now.

Yep, the others in the family who are football oriented need to do an intervention right now. Art's actions the past few years border on the insane down right senility issues

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

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[tbsteel]

It's not.

[StillerDownSouth]

While I agree with all that’s been said above and on many other numerous threads about firing Tomlin, unfortunately we are all wasting our breath/keystrokes, it ain’t never happening. Only hope we have as Steelers fans is they somehow hit home runs on every draft pick and some how find a stud QB and amass the most talented team ever constructed, like the 70’s Steelers or 90’s cowboys and still have to hold our breathe that Tomlin wouldn’t fuck that up also.

[955876]

It's 90% of the reason IMO. The other 10% is not wanting to eat the contract money. It's shameful leadership by Art 2

I think another reason is that Dunce doesn’t want the responsibility of having to find a new coach.

Easier to rest on the NHALS season bullshit and not deal with it.

[955876]

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A new Rooney needs to be the one to hire the next HC.

Dunce CANNOT be trusted with that.

[stairway 2 seven]

Dan Rooney crafting the rule that bears his name, however well intentioned, has hurt his legacy and his team. They are backed into a corner with a control freak myopic coach that does just enough to keep his job.

[zeke5123]

Could be part of it, but not necessarily. I think more the issue is that The Douchebag Art II is just that, a fuckin douchebag who gets off on both only three coaches in 55 years and NHALS. To be sure, there would be some level of outcry in Pittsburgh's black community if Tomlin were fired, but I think it's more the things I've cited....and...that fuckin douchebag wants his team to be in the image of running the ball and that bullshit. As Brian batko of the PG said of Rooney..."firing Tomlin would be like firing himself."

I think it is more that Art II is afraid of taking a risk. He sees NAHLs and worries "but what if I hire a coach who will have losing seasons."

[langer]

What if all the comments from players about people in the locker room not being on the same page and all that was not referring to a player but a certain Head Coach.

It's becoming clear now lol.

[Deebo]

It's not.

We can't prove it is or is not.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

[StillerInCT]

Could be part of it, but not necessarily. I think more the issue is that The Douchebag Art II is just that, a fuckin douchebag who gets off on both only three coaches in 55 years and NHALS. To be sure, there would be some level of outcry in Pittsburgh's black community if Tomlin were fired, but I think it's more the things I've cited....and...that fuckin douchebag wants his team to be in the image of running the ball and that bullshit. As Brian batko of the PG said of Rooney..."firing Tomlin would be like firing himself."

I think it is more that Art II is afraid of taking a risk. He sees NAHLs and worries "but what if I hire a coach who will have losing seasons."

This is it. You can see it in everything we do as an organization. Risk aversion is running rampant through the organization.

[langer]

[CKSteeler]

It's not.

We can't prove it is or is not.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

I've said this a million times at this point.

Art II was not risk averse when it came to Cowher.

The Rooneys are cheap so I'm sure that's a factor. There's a number of bad reasons you could point to, but to claim race isn't one of them or any part of it is asinine in my book. People say well just hire another minority coach, but most of the top candidates these days are white offensive guys. Could have gone with someone like DeMeco Ryans, but that would require foresight.

[955876]

The Rooneys are cheap so I'm sure that's a factor.

Dunce could save himself a few bucks if he got rid of Jibba’s useless ass along with his bloated salary.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

What if all the comments from players about people in the locker room not being on the same page and all that was not referring to a player but a certain Head Coach.

It's becoming clear now lol.

The exit interviews point squarely on Mike T.

As I said you cannot fire 60 players. Rooney is backed in corner now. He's next on the firing line. People stop attending and spending.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

It's not.

We can't prove it is or is not.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

Thats what people need to question Art 2 from today forward.

[langer]

How will it look in the FO if the year after Big Art II gives his ultimatum bilge and the every next year the meltdown and disaster is even worse than the last with players openly mocking the situation?

Coach Mike might have stayed too long at the job, should have gotten out with his rep intact.

[alancac98]

How will it look in the FO if the year after Big Art II gives his ultimatum bilge and the every next year the meltdown and disaster is even worse than the last with players openly mocking the situation?

Coach Mike might have stayed too long at the job, should have gotten out with his rep intact.

Tomlin's rep is already taking a massive hit. The numbers don't lie. Next year he will own the top spot for consecutive playoff losses. How many records has been broken against Tomlin and the Steelers - he owns that but no one talks about any of them! This franchise continues to go backwards making the record books for what should be embarrassing reason, but somehow Tomlin keeps getting extensions.

[K_C_]

Does anyone actually want Mke McCarthy to be the Steelers head coach?

If Tomlin leaves, I want Ben Johnson or another young offensive innovator. If not, give me a young, energetic coach like Marcus Freeman who has taken a stale Notre Dame program to another level in only 3 years.

[gojira5150]

Does anyone actually want Mke McCarthy to be the Steelers head coach?

If Tomlin leaves, I want Ben Johnson or another young offensive innovator. If not, give me a young, energetic coach like Marcus Freeman who has taken a stale Notre Dame program to another level in only 3 years.

I am right there with you Bro. I've wanted Ben Johnson for a couple years now. I want an offensive minded HC. If the Steelers go status quo, I am not giving any energy next year to this sorry ass team. I've gotten to the point I just don't care anymore.

[bradshaw2ben]

I would love Ben Johnson, but my sleeper continues to be TC McCartney.

[tbsteel]

We can't prove it is or is not.

Cool.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

...and then tries to prove that he's kept here because he's black.

So what is it?

Please, we all know what this is really is, some politically anti-DEI shit that doesn't belong on this board.

I am an insane crazy liberal and I would gladly go nuclear on here if I didn't want this board to be covered in this shit. And this is coming from a guy who was posting bloody diapers on here like a month ago.

[gojira5150]

We can't prove it is or is not.

Cool.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

...and then tries to prove that he's kept here because he's black.

So what is it?

Please, we all know what this is really is, some politically anti-DEI shit that doesn't belong on this board.

I am an insane crazy liberal and I would gladly go nuclear on here if I didn't want this board to be covered in this shit. And this is coming from a guy who was posting bloody diapers on here like a month ago.

I can do the same with a Right mind set. B2B said not to so I don't. Trust me, I gots all kinda truth bombs to drop.

[CKSteeler]

We can't prove it is or is not.

Cool.

But care to explain why Cowher got a mandate to win and be threatened with his job, yet Tomlin got a similar shot across the bow yet got an extension?

It doesn't add up

...and then tries to prove that he's kept here because he's black.

So what is it?

Please, we all know what this is really is, some politically anti-DEI shit that doesn't belong on this board.

I am an insane crazy liberal and I would gladly go nuclear on here if I didn't want this board to be covered in this shit. And this is coming from a guy who was posting bloody diapers on here like a month ago.

It isn't politically anti-DEI shit. It's a fundamental disagreement that people on the right and left have in how they tend to see the world. Is it political adjacent? Sure. But I'm not discussing Trumpitler here. I'm discussing why I think a certain segment of the fanbase and the clueless owner continue to defend a guy and I could just as easily flip this around and say that it's the bigotry of lowered expectations.

But that's slowly going by the wayside regardless.