Sinister Sons draft Rankings

[Legacy User]

QBs

1-Mariota
2-Winston
3-Hundley
4-Grayson
5-Mannion

RBs

1-Gurley
2-Coleman
3-Ajayi
4-Gordon
5-D Johnson

WRs

1-White
2-Cooper
3-Green Beckham
4-D Parker
5-N Aguolier
5b- B Perriman

TEs

1-J James
2-M Williams
3-Walford
4- M Pruitt
5-G Christian


OTs

1-L Collins
2-B Scherff
3- DJ Humphries
3b- D Smith
4-E Flowers
5-J Fisher

OGs

1-L Tomlison
2- J Harrison
3-J Poutassi
4-M Glowinski
5-J Matias

Cs

1-C Irving
2-A Galik
3-H Grassi
4-BJ Finney
5-R Dismukes

Edge

1-Ray
2-Vaughters
3-Beasly
4-Orchard
5-D Fowler
5b-M Golden

DT

1-L Williams
2-D Shelton
3-M Brown
4-E Goldman
5-M Bennet

5 Tech

1-A Armstead
2- OO
3-H Anderson
4-M Edwards
5-M Hardison

ILBs

1-Perriman
2-Kendricks
3-Luc
4-Mckinley
5- Z Vigil

43 weak OLBs

1-S Thompson
2- T Dantzler
3-K Emmanual
4-J Hicks
5-K Alexander

CBs

1-Peters
2-Waynes
3- J Collins
4-S Golson
5-PJ Williams

SSs

1-L Collins
2-S Thompson
3-J Tartt
4-C Geathers
5- I Campbell

FSs

1-C Prewit
2- D Randell
3-A Amos
4-D Smith
5-Drummond

Busts-

1-J Winston
2-J Phillips
3-B Dupree
4-E Harold
5-K Johnson
6-D Funchess
7-T Jackson
8-R Gregory
9-P Dawson
10- S Coates

Rankings subject to slight future tinkering

[lifelongsteel]

Are you Sinister Son?

[Legacy User]

I suppose moms would say so...it's a phrase I heard that stuck with me that calls to mind the type of players we use to draft/sign...Ward, TP, Deebo, Clark, to an extent Heyward and Timmons...

[Ice]

Surprised to see Winston on the bust list and not Mariota.

[Legacy User]

Surprised to see Winston on the bust list and not Mariota.

QB 13 232 342 67.8 3129 9.1 9.7 28 8 167.0

QB 13 305 467 65.3 3907 8.4 7.7 25 18 145.5

Jamaeis vs Jamarkus

I laugh my ass off at all the pro ready shit. This mutt is lost if the presnap read isn't there. He has depth perception problems because he throws high on a regular basis. Without Benjamin as a go to guy for high points and contested balls he managed multi interception games vs FLA, NCS, Okie State, and Louisville. On top of that he has no character. If he has the intellectual capacity and works hard he might be a less accurate Jay Cutler.

Mariota isn't a finished product...but tone of voice in huddle and snaps from under center pales in comparison to the complete lack of judgement Winston has demonstrated on and off the field. Mariota is flat out better now and if I'm a GM I at least know if he busts out it isn't going to be from lack of effort or stupidity.

Incredibly weak QB class.

[jebrick]

Incredibly weak QB class.

Must agree. Mariota has the same problems, which OSU game planned showed, of the second read. They showed that if he has to go to the 2nd read he either throws high/inaccurate or he just runs. Is this coachable? Sure. But he is not a day 1 starter.

Going to the Jets is a better place than the Titans because he does not HAVE to start now. Either team is going to be lucky to win more games than they did last year.

[Ice]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way saying that Jameis is the second coming of anybody, whether it's Jamarcus Russell or Jay Cutler. I think he's got consuderable differences from either. I'm just looking at what I saw of Mariota when a good college coach with a good college front seven (and a reltively weak, by usual Ohio State standards, secondary) managed to do to him in the National Championship game by taking away the pre-snap and disrupting down and distance, and I'm wondering what Bill Bellichick or Pete Carroll, or the front line being assembled in St. Louis, or even an average to good Dick LeBeau defense could do to this kid given a week to gameplan. I think they're about even in terms of NFL bust potential.

It is an incredibly weak QB class. Between FA and the draft, this year was a bad year to need an answer at the QB position.

[Legacy User]

I'm not sure of what to make of Mariota's knowledge of the QB position. I'll admit I didn't review film of either QB having seen them both many times and not wanting to spend much time with the position. My biggest question mark with Mariota is tight window throws as the UO O often schemed wide open receivers. I don't believe Mariota loses composure under pressure and I think the biggest improvement I've seen in his game this season was he scrambled to look down field rather then use his feet for yards. When you have a QB with the work ethic and what appears to be a chip on his shoulder to prove something as Mariota does I don't worry much about the intellectual part of the position...it really isn't beyond GED IQ.

Keep in mind that Mariota's "poor" game vs OSU was 300 plus, 2 TDs and one pick...then consider Winston threw 4 picks vs a poor FLA defense, 2 vs NCSU, and another 3 vs Louisville. Also...the only game Winston played vs a defense that wasn't overwhelmed by the talent of the FSU offensive players at virtually every position on the field was vs Oregon...and that was far worse then MM performance in the NCAANCg.

I'm not one that will state an opinion on readiness to play in the NFL...but there is no question in my mind who the better prospect is.

[Ice]

They're both closer to Geno Smith than Joe Flacco, and neither is a better prospect than Bert. I'm not sure Winston would be a first rounder in a less QB-starved year, and I'm more sure that Mariota wouldn't. Quick, name the last successful Free Shoe U NFL quarterback. Charlie Ward on the Knicks doesn't count, and Mariota is, at best midway between Akili Smith and Fouts, with the arrow pointing to Smith.

Bad year to need a QB.

[Legacy User]

I like Mariota more then I like Flacco. I could be wrong but I don't see him as lacking in arm talent as many do...I think he might be very, very good in a couple of years. It might take two years for him to acclimate to a pro style offense...but so much depends on where he lands. The move aspects of his game are similar to a young Bens...Tennesee or Philly is a better landing spot then NYC imo. And because Kelly denied desire to move up for him I suspect it's to drive his value down to minimize the cost of trading up.

[Legacy User]

7 Round Mock using Walters Football 5 rounds as framework

1- Marcus Peters CB

2- Marcus Hardison DE

3- Marcus Golden OLB

4- Senquez Golson CB

5- Adrian Amos FS

6- Mark Glowinski G

6- Gerald Christian TE

7- James Vaughters OLB

[Legacy User]

Preliminary top 64

1 Mariota
2 Beasley
3 K White
4 L Williams
5 S Ray
6 A Cooper
7 La Collins
8 Beckham Green
9 A Armstead
10 T Gurley
11 T Waynes
12 B Scherff
13 D Shelton
14 E Goldman
15 M Peters
16 Lan Collins
17 D Parker
18 B Perriman
19 M Gordon
20 E Flowers
21 M Brown
22 J Ajayi
23 M Bennet
24 D Smith
25 J Fisher
26 J Strong
27 C Prewitt
28 PJ Williams
29 OO
30 M Golden
31 D Perrimen
32 S Thompson
33 N Orchard
34 D Fowler
35 Max Williams
36 J Collins
37 G Jarret
38 M Hardison
39 E Kendricks
40 N Agholaria
41 A Peat
42 R Gregory
43 H Anderson
44 D Hunter
45 S Golson
46 De Smith
47 T Coleman
48 A Abdullah
49 C Ogbehuli
50 Du Johnson
51 Da Williams
52 TJ Clemmings
53 S Nelson
54 J Poutassi
55 H Kikaha
56 P Dorsett
57 Q Rollins
58 C Warford
59 C Davis
60 M Edwards
61 Ike Ifo
62 J Crowder
63 A Amos
64 J Harrison

[Legacy User]

Updated positional rankings and first SS Mock draft-

TB- Winston
TT- Mariota
JJ- Fowler
OR- Leonard Williams
WR- Gregory
NYJ- Ray
CB- Shelton
Atl- Beasley
NYG- Scherff
SLR- A Cooper
MV- Green Beckham
CB- D Parker
NO- T Waynes
MD- Perriman UCF
SF- Armstead
Hou- Lael Collins
SD- DJ Humphries
KC- E Flowers
CB- E Golman
PE- M Peters
CB- M Dupree

Steelers select Landon Collins and it's a good day. Steelers select KJ and let the drinking commence...

[Legacy User]

Final top 64

1- Marcus Mariota QB
2- K White WR
3- V Beasley OLB
4- A Cooper WR
5- L Williams DT
6- S Ray OLB
7- Lael Collins OT
8- Beckham Green WR
9- A Armstead DE
10- Lan Collins S
11- T Gurley RB
12- D Parker WR
13- B Scherff OT
14- M Peters CB
15- OO DT
16- D Shelton DT
17- N Aguolier WR
18- T Coleman RB
19- M Brown DT
20- S Thompson S
21- J Ajayi RB
22- D Smith OT
23- E Goldman DT
24- B Perriman WR
25- DJ Humphries OT
26- J Strong WR
27- D Perriman ILB
28- T Coleman RB
29- E Flowers OT
30- N Orchard OLB
31- J Collins CB
32- J Vaughters OLB
33- G Jarret DT
34- M Gordon RB
35- P Dorsett WR
36- E Kendricks ILB
37- C Ogebughi OT
38- J Fisher OT
39- M Gordon RB
40- A Peat OT
41- H Anderson DE
42- M Bennet DT
43- M Golden OLB
44- C Prewitt S
45- M Williams TE
46- E Rowe S/CB
47- S Golson CB
48- D Smith WR
49- D Fowler DE/OLB
50- D Randell S
51- L Tomlison G
52- D Johnson RB
53- R Gregory DE OLB
54- B Jones CB
55- S Anthony ILB
56- TJ Clemmings OT
57- J Harrison OG
58- C Davis DT
59- A Amos S
60- Q Rollins CB
61- C Irving C
62- K Kikaha OLB
63- C Warford TE
64- S Nelson CB

I tinkered with my positional rankings and this is not quite as accurate as I would like.