Does anybody care specifically who we draft?

[Nick79]

I mean, I'm hoping for a a CB #1 and then maybe another DB or pass rusher, I'm also hoping for possibly a decent recieving TE #2 or #3,based on reports I've read, but there are at least 2-3 guys at each of these positions who will be around when we pick, so draft experts, who do you like?

[K_C_]

They had better find some fucking pass rushers or it won't matter who we have at CB or S.

[Legacy User]

Unless it's a stud with character concerns, I'll be pissed.

[RemoAZ]

Typically I really want one guy that they never pick. I don't watch much college FB anymore and haven't had time to check out all the combine and predraft stuff this year so I'm not really hoping for one particular player. There's enough holes where BPA fits best this year. I just hope they don't take another guy that's more athlete than football player. We're still.waiting for 2 of our top three from last year to develop into something. We don't need that again. There's enough character concerns causing slides where somebody good at a position of need will be there. Let's grab him before the Ravens do.

[Orangesteel]

Tough for me to get excited for this draft, mainly because we have so many issues on the defensive side of the ball, my interest is more invested in whether the guys who have sucked this far are actually going to start turning it on.

Jervy
Shaz
Mitchell
Tez
Herp

IMO if none of those guys starts playing better it doesn't matter who we draft on defense.

[Kodiak]

They're going to roll with Jervis, and we have Harrison....so I don't think they're completely desperate for an rush backer THIS year.

I'm hoping they can grab a stud corner.

[Kodiak]

They had better find some fucking pass rushers or it won't matter who we have at CB or S.

To which I'd counter if you can't cover, the pass rush never has time to get home.

[Gonzo]

I care
I care who they pick and how they pick and why

[Nick79]

Unless it's a stud with character concerns, I'll be pissed.

Character risks don't bother me, of course that's old news , I'd be fine with taking Peters (CB) or Gregory (pass rusher) #1, because they are really highly ranked skill-wise and may drop with the character concerns, so you'll get a value player who deserved to be picked higher based on playing skill. So some argue they might just be busts because of character, but I'd say, SO WHAT? WHO CARES? Jarvis Jones, Ziggy Hood? #1 picks all have potential to not be that great, so what's the big deal if it's because they are whack jobs or because they are slow or weak? Look at Martavis Bryant. He was considered raw and had character concerns right? He fell to #4, he turned out as one of the really good offensive rookies last year.

[K_C_]

They had better find some fucking pass rushers or it won't matter who we have at CB or S.

To which I'd counter if you can't cover, the pass rush never has time to get home.

Fair enough, I guess it's personal preference. I like Shamarko and I expect Mitchell to be much better. I love Blake and I'm sure the Steelers will target a corner early, BUT our pass rush scares the living shit out of me.

I'm much, much more worried about our pass rush than I am DB's.

By a lot.

[FortyThree]

I'd be fine with taking Gregory (pass rusher) #1, because he is really high.

That's precisely why they won't take him.

[Legacy User]

Marcus Peters, Randy Gregory or Shane Ray in the first round. With those kinds of first names, I feel comfortable they don't have any character red flags.

[V DUB]

Even their last names make for solid football first names. I'm sold.

[Defense]

Good post Nick -

Wishing out loud;

We need a day 1 starter, impact player with outstanding abilities, already showing leadership qualities.
Defense 100% , and with a whole lot of attitude.

Linebacker, D-end, cornerback ... don't care.

[Kodiak]

Yeah, this defense lacks playmakers. Maybe Bubbleboy will become one, but outside of possibly the aging Harrison we don't have an impact player on defense. Heyward, possibly Tuitt, and Timmons are very good players...surrounded by a ton of question marks (although I'm fine with McClendon/McCuller at NT). And Gay is solid in the nickel.

If Jervis and Bubbleboy come one, you really like our Front 7 and just needing to replace Harrison and add depth. It's the back-end that's currently a giant mess of fail. That's the best case scenario, along with Allen rebounding, an impact DB, and hopefully Shamarko being a player.

Not inconceivable the defense could be a top-10 unit this year...just much more likely it will be bottom-10.

[FortyThree]

Marcus Peters, Randy Gregory or Shane Ray in the first round. With those kinds of first names, I feel comfortable they don't have any character red flags.

What about their hair?

Are they well built?

[Stosh-67]

Marcus Peters, Randy Gregory or Shane Ray in the first round. With those kinds of first names, I feel comfortable they don't have any character red flags.

Even their last names make for solid football first names. I'm sold.

LOL.........
6 first names with those three guys.........

[Nick79]

I'd be fine with taking Gregory (pass rusher) #1, because he is really high.

That's precisely why they won't take him.

Then they are stupid. If a guy becomes a bust because of chracater so what? No big deal. It's the same as a guy being a bust because he can't play. You can't predict one anymore than the other.

[Legacy User]

Lol

[Obviously]

At this point I would appreciate a #1 who actually sees the field. Whether it's been injuries or Dick Lebeau's three-year starter plan, our #1's just never seem to produce right away. We used to have that luxury. We have not had it for a while now.

[Legacy User]

Good post Nick -

Wishing out loud;

We need a day 1 starter, impact player with outstanding abilities, already showing leadership qualities.
Defense 100% , and with a whole lot of attitude.

Linebacker, D-end, cornerback ... don't care.

and I need Megan Fox with wearing only SuperWoman paint sitting on my face.
Not that it's going to happen but I'd trade out of the first round if I could get three picks from somewhere between selection 40 to 100.
Now I'll go get myself a powerball ticket.

[Thrillsseeker]

Marcus Peters, Randy Gregory or Shane Ray in the first round. With those kinds of first names, I feel comfortable they don't have any character red flags.

Even their last names make for solid football first names. I'm sold.

LOL.........
6 first names with those three guys.........

I have 3 first names whithin my name alone. I wonder what their middle names are.

As already mentioned, I'm hoping for a playmaker. I'd prefer someone with an attitude. Someone like a younger James Harrison to wreak havoc on a QB. I vote for that and still double dipping in draft for CB later on. On the other hand if we end up with a play making corner, a shut down corner, a ball hawk/turn over machine corner I'll be fucking ecstatic also!

[Stosh-67]

They had better find some fucking pass rushers or it won't matter who we have at CB or S.

To which I'd counter if you can't cover, the pass rush never has time to get home.

I'd imagine you can go back and forth with that debate..........

Playing the cushion defenses that DL incorporated certainly did not help the pass rush.........as it made it a bit easier for QB's to make quicker decisions and get the ball out faster than would allow for James Harrison Prime to hit home. Not having the trust in a average to poor DB's over the last few years may have been part of the reason........along with the "tackle the catch" philosphy.

Maybe that top notch cover corner creates a little more confusion and or decision making for the QB's..........second read, third read, scramble, etc.......that allows for the pressure to get home.
I.E........what allowed the N.E. and Seattle front 7 players to get home and pressure the QB..........look at the secondaries of those two teams last year.....Sherman, Chancellor, Thomas, Maxwell, Revis, McCourtny, Browner, Butler..........a load of talent and play makers........that make plays, get their hands on balls and make it very difficult for QB's to throw into tighter coverage........ and tighter windows.
Takes a lot of confidence away from QB's............makes them uncomfortable.

On the other hand.............how has our pass rush improved from last year?......
James Harrison is another year older, Jarvis has not shown much, Worilds is walking around knocking on doors............while Moats showed flashes.

I think there are enough talented OLB's and DB's in this draft.....that the PS should be able to land a very good OLB and DB with two of the first three picks.......if not #1 and #2.
I would certainly double up on defensive backfield picks..........and possibly draft 2 corners AND a safety.

I think the arrow could finally start swinging up for the defense come September.........or at least by the time we are smashing pumpkins.
I expect to see more out of Jarvis and Shaz in 2015. I think it will also be real hard to keep Vince Williams off the field.
I think if the guys above step up in their 2nd and 3rd years............. it will allow for a lighter load on JH.........and allow for him to stay heathy, fresh and fierce.

I also think that a third down pass rushing tandem of Heyward and Tuitt will be a handful inside...........allowing for better match-ups for the guys on the outside. Add a pass rushing talent to that LB mix......

I love the possibilities and flexibilty of 3rd and long packages that can come in and out............... especially if Heyward and Tuit are the only 2 down lineman.............with different combinations of Timmons, Shaz, Harrison, Jarvis, Williams, a 1st or 2nd rounder..................with Spence and Moats as depth.

Bring on the draft............I'm pumped.

[Stosh-67]

At this point I would appreciate a #1 who actually sees the field.

How huge, refreshing that would be........what a boost.....
a day 1 starter at CB or OLB would be insane.

[rooneytunes]

Someone with a big frame.

[bradshaw2ben]

my draft board for round 1 looks like this:
1. OL La'el Collins
2. CB Marcus Peters
3. Trade down
4. OLB Bud Dupree
5. CB/S Byron Jones
6. WR DGB
7. WR Kevin White
8. CB Steven Nelson
9. OLB Owa Odighizua
10. DE Henry Anderson
11. FS Eric Rowe
12. RB Todd Gurley
13. CB/S Quinten Rollins

[Orangesteel]

With that B2B. Peters played ball locally. Would love to see him in the B&G

[Nick79]

At this point I would appreciate a #1 who actually sees the field. Whether it's been injuries or Dick Lebeau's three-year starter plan, our #1's just never seem to produce right away. We used to have that luxury. We have not had it for a while now.

Also, I'd rather go with the higher ranked big school guys! It's like we're always trying to outsmart someone? Like Picking Ricardo Coulclough? Or last year, the top rated MLB, Mosley was available when we picked and we pick undersized Shazier, who spends half the season injured, one pick later, the Ravens pick Mosley who starts every game and leads them in tackles! So why coudln't we have just followed the consensus and picked Mosley? I was thinking that right when we picked Shazier and the talking heads where surpised and Mosley was on the board for the Ravens to scoop up!

[cop1211]

I'll take:
1.Shane Ray
2.Eric Rowe
3.DE Henry Anderson
4.Grant
For the win.

[Defense]

"Worilds is walking around knocking on doors"

Bahahahahahaha!!!!