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James Harrison mentoring Steelers linebackers

Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Fri May 29, 2015 1:06 pm

James Harrison hopes his mentoring of Steelers linebackers will pay dividends
May 29, 2015 12:00 AM
Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Jarvis Jones and Ryan Shazier, a pair of former No. 1 draft picks, have heard the stories and watched the videos of James Harrison’s incredible workout regimen.

But, after spending nearly a month training with Harrison in North Scottsdale, Ariz., the two young linebackers gained an greater appreciation — and a huge sense of awe — for the former NFL defensive player of the year who turned 37 earlier this month.

“Man, it’s unbelievable,” said Jones, who enters his third season after being the Steelers’ top pick in the 2013 draft. “He’s in a league of his own. I do what I can do to push myself, and it’s definitely motivation just watching him and seeing the things he does. But, as far as doing the things he does, he’s in a league of his own.”

“It’s very impressive,” said Shazier, the No. 1 pick last year who added eight pounds working out with Harrison and changing his diet. “We do the workouts, but it’s like his weight is on a whole different level. We all learn from him and do what we can, but we will never be able to lift what he’s lifting.”

Harrison spent the offseason serving as a mentor to the Steelers’ young crop of linebackers. He spent four weeks in Arizona training and spending time with Jones, Shazier, Vince Williams and Sean Spence, hoping his regimen with trainer Ian Danney at Performance Enhancement Professionals will have a positive and lasting impact on them.

Harrison said he has already noticed a difference in the players. And he hopes to make that difference more noticeable when he takes them back to the desert at the end of organized training activities and minicamp.

The Steelers held their third day of OTAs Thursday and will not hold another session until Tuesday.

“Right now, they’re stronger, they’re faster; even Shazier put on a little weight,” Harrison said. “I’m just leading them to the water, it’s up to them to drink.

“It’s like God is driving the bus for me right now. I’m almost 40 years old out here playing a game with young men. I’m extremely blessed and fortunate to be able to do that.”

Because of his age, the Steelers have told Harrison they don’t want him playing more than 25 snaps a game in 2015. Part of that, though, is because they also want Jones to get enough playing time to continue his development. Harrison, though, said he was told the same thing last year when he came out of retirement after Jones injured his wrist and was placed on short-term injured reserve. So what happened?

Harrison started the final four games, including the playoff loss against the Baltimore Ravens. In each of those games, he never played fewer than 52 snaps. He was off the field for only 19 plays in those four games.

Conversely, Jones played only 16 snaps in the final three games after returning from a wrist injury.

“We’ll get into the season and see how things roll out,” said Harrison, who had 5½ sacks in 11 games in 2014. “Initially when I came last year, I was supposed to be a 15-to-20 snap guy, and things rolled out a different way. We’ll see.”

Jones likely will be the starter at outside right linebacker once the regular season begins Sept. 10 at New England. But he would not commit to that when asked if he is the starter on the right side, saying it’s way too early to make that determination.

“[Harrison] is going to do his thing, and I’ll do mine,” Jones said. “We’re going to get a good rotation and take it from there.”

Gerry Dulac: gdulac@post-gazette.com; twitter: @gerrydulac.


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/05/29/steelers-for-friday-5-29/stories/201505290128


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Post by jeemie » Fri May 29, 2015 1:15 pm

even Shazier put on a little weight


I could feel Clemson smiling from his purgatory of bamndom at this comment from Deebo.

:lol: :lol:
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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Fri May 29, 2015 2:15 pm

Jeemie wrote:
even Shazier put on a little weight


I could feel Clemson smiling from his purgatory of bamndom at this comment from Deebo.

:lol: :lol:


I wasnt paying attention and didnt notice his banning.

So does that mean his next instance will have be referred to as FEZoC?
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Post by Obviously » Fri May 29, 2015 2:30 pm

Jeemie wrote:
even Shazier put on a little weight


I could feel Clemson smiling from his purgatory of bamndom at this comment from Deebo.

:lol: :lol:


That fuckstick is banned again? Holy fuck, he's entering STD territory.
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Post by jeemie » Fri May 29, 2015 3:01 pm

I don't know for sure if he's banned- he just hasn't posted for a while.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:33 pm

Great to hear this again.................

Best part of the article:
Harrison said he has already noticed a difference in the players. And he hopes to make that difference more noticeable when he takes them back to the desert at the end of organized training activities and minicamp.


Most importantly....it has to come from with-in. He is showing them how and why........
they have to believe it and do it when he is not there with them......or when they are on their own away from OTA, camp, Arizona, etc.........
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri May 29, 2015 7:41 pm

As far mentoring/coaching goes I think the Steelers have the elite staff of the NFL. Butler, Olsavsky, Porter and Deebo all sharing the knowledge. Tough to find a better staff (league wise) contributing to player development. JMO

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Post by burmanj » Fri May 29, 2015 8:07 pm

Jesus H. Christ.... shazier put on 8 lbs of muscle... How the heck is he going to play safety at that weight ?!?


Also, and I don't know how to post pics, but Steelers.com has a pic of Jones, and he does look noticeably bigger.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri May 29, 2015 8:09 pm

If you're a young LB here and don't succeed, it won't be about your poor coaching/leadership.

Like you, I really like the defensive side coaches. The offensive side are still an utter wish mosh; some great and some wtf... but I think the criticisms we heard about Tomlin's inability to choose good staff and keep them around are proven vapid.
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Post by Legacy User » Sat May 30, 2015 1:28 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:If you're a young LB here and don't succeed, it won't be about your poor coaching/leadership.

Like you, I really like the defensive side coaches. The offensive side are still an utter wish mosh; some great and some wtf... but I think the criticisms we heard about Tomlin's inability to choose good staff and keep them around are proven vapid.


Oline coaching was a mess until the 800-pound gorilla showed up. Anyone that actually liked the Todd hiring must had been on a witness protection program cuz I don't remember seeing him here. Then there's the Arians saga. Other than that, I don’t remember seeing hirings as a major criticism, quite the contrary

I guess I’m missing something, just my 2 cents.

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Post by Scunge » Sat May 30, 2015 8:44 am

I think the job that Richard Mann has done with the WRs is very noteworthy. Also, Bell was going to be great regardless of who was coaching him, just a natural, but it sure looked to me that new RB coach James Saxon did a great job with FB Will Johnson. There was a noticeable difference in his blocking and ability to handle different assignments last season. Randy Fitchner doesn't get a lot love here but he was very good at coaching the WRs his first 3 years here (07-09) and has since been the QB coach (2010-15). Ben has a lot of comfort with him and is playing his best ball and getting better and better.

With Munchak, Mann, Saxon and Fitchner, Tomlin has done a good job of surrounding Todd Haley with quality position coaches.

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Post by Legacy User » Sat May 30, 2015 8:55 am

Deebo is without question one of my favorite Steelers players all time.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat May 30, 2015 1:34 pm

Scunge wrote:I think the job that Richard Mann has done with the WRs is very noteworthy. Also, Bell was going to be great regardless of who was coaching him, just a natural, but it sure looked to me that new RB coach James Saxon did a great job with FB Will Johnson. There was a noticeable difference in his blocking and ability to handle different assignments last season. Randy Fitchner doesn't get a lot love here but he was very good at coaching the WRs his first 3 years here (07-09) and has since been the QB coach (2010-15). Ben has a lot of comfort with him and is playing his best ball and getting better and better.

With Munchak, Mann, Saxon and Fitchner, Tomlin has done a good job of surrounding Todd Haley with quality position coaches.

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Post by Scunge » Sat May 30, 2015 2:10 pm

I have no idea what you mean, B2B, oh wait, yes, I forgot to mention TE coach James Daniels, but he was a holdover from Cowher. I may lust over having a different type of TE but I can't really blame Daniels for that. When he was with Atlanta, Daniels coached Alge Crumpler who would become a 4 time Pro Bowl TE. Crumpler in Atlanta, Miller here in Pittsburgh, I think Daniels knows how to coach TEs.

Maybe Haley was forced on Tomlin but at least he made the best of it by surrounding him with better positional coaches. I never cared for Scotty Montgomery or Kirby Wilson or the O-line coaches we have had over the years like Sean Kugler and Jack Bicknell Jr. Always thought we could do better and Tomlin apparently thought so too.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat May 30, 2015 2:30 pm

To me, the place a position coach shines is taking players to heights beyond expectations. I think it's fair to say Heath has lived up to his billing-- he was totally worthy of being a 1st round selection and came to a team with a perfect fit for him.

I mean, when Richard Mann coaches AB-- he gets credit for that guy's unreal work ethic and desire? I guess.

Beyond Heath, I think you'd have to say the development of every TE they've selected and coached besides the nowhere to role players David & Will Johnson has been a disappointment. Although a great blocker, Spaeth never developed as a pass catcher, despite showing some aptitude for that early in his career. The rest have been utterly forgettable.

If the dude can mold Jesse James into any kind of contributor, let alone a starter, then color me impressed. Until then, I think he's one of the weak links.
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Post by jeemie » Sat May 30, 2015 3:20 pm

I think it is more the role of the TE in the offense than it is the TE coaching, B2B.

And there's a double standard in your post.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat May 30, 2015 6:25 pm

I didn't like what he had to say about his approach in the TC/draft interviews. I don't see the group as a whole filling the roles the team needs, even by their standards, not mine.
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Post by Scunge » Sun May 31, 2015 1:38 am

I guess I am still ambivalent about Todd Haley. I couldn't figure last season out and it just nagged me, and nagged me and then it dawned on me a couple months ago that we may be witnessing another Ron Earhardt/Chan Gailey situation. What do I mean by that?

Ron Earhardt was the offensive coordinator that Bill Cowher first hired in 1992. He wanted a pound the rock, run first offense and that is what we got, remember Barry Foster? Chan Gailey was the WR coach and he was doing a great job with the WRs and developing the likes of Ernie Mills, Charles Johnson, Andre Hastings, Yancey Thigpen and even Kordell Stewart when he was Slash.

Eventually it got to the point in 1995, where the offense was really starting to take off with those WRs and the passing game. Gailey went to Cowher and they developed a system where the WRs would rotate in on quarters, they had 4 and even 5 WR sets, Neil O'Donnell and the rest of the QBs combined for almost 4,100 yards passing. We made it all the way to the Super Bowl.

But all of that just reminds me of what happened last season. Maybe the success we had last season isn't just because Todd Haley "got it finally" or "turned a corner". No, maybe it was a case of Mike Munchak coming on board to develop the running game, and for the passing game it was Randy Fitchner doing a great imitation of Chan Gailey.

Do some research on Randy and you find a very talented offensive coordinator in college. When he was at Arkansas State they set school records on offense and when he was at Memphis as their OC they set school records on offense as well, over 5,000 yards on offense in 2003 and 2004. That is where he coached DeAngelo Williams.

So, maybe, just maybe, Fitchner stabilized the passing game last season, had more input just as Chain Gailey did 20 years ago. Haley, maybe he did delegate responsibilities but the problem, the issue, is that he still is the one calling plays. Munchak and Fitchner can design a fine offense but if the play caller is just average then we are just spinning our wheels. Hopefully, Haley gets better at that or Ben takes on more of the play calling.

I know that is maybe an odd take on last year's offense but it just makes the most sense to me.

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Post by V DUB » Sun May 31, 2015 2:41 am

Or maybe it was the emergence of Bryant & his ability to stretch the field, along with a legit dump off option in Bell. I went back & forth with B2B about Todd getting the right pieces to run his offense before last year. I believed it was set up to target the short areas to set up safe, high % long ball options. I think that the pieces are in place at this point, & now is when opinions should be formed, while he has the 'type' of player he wants on the field. IMO, he was working with square pegs & it took awhile to find circles. I feel like last year was the tip of the iceberg. Guys getting more comfortable. I think FC & I were the only 2 excited about the WR position last year. My excitement is off the charts this year.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun May 31, 2015 3:38 am

I think Sammie Coates is going to be a huge addition, especially if they follow through with using him in the slot. The more I think about it, the more I love the idea in this offense.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun May 31, 2015 5:04 am

Fucking love Deebo.

This is great news.

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Post by V DUB » Sun May 31, 2015 5:20 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:I think Sammie Coates is going to be a huge addition, especially if they follow through with using him in the slot. The more I think about it, the more I love the idea in this offense.


I love the idea of using him there in the RZ. I still like Wheaton at slot & outside in certain situations between the 20's, only because you simply cant take AB off the field. I'd love if Coates proved quick twitch enough to rely on for RAC. There's a reason Wheaton got kick return duties, & AB refuses to give up his stranglehold on PR.

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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Sun May 31, 2015 11:40 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:If you're a young LB here and don't succeed, it won't be about your poor coaching/leadership.

Like you, I really like the defensive side coaches. The offensive side are still an utter wish mosh; some great and some wtf... but I think the criticisms we heard about Tomlin's inability to choose good staff and keep them around are proven vapid.


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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun May 31, 2015 2:45 pm

VanWilder wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:I think Sammie Coates is going to be a huge addition, especially if they follow through with using him in the slot. The more I think about it, the more I love the idea in this offense.


I love the idea of using him there in the RZ. I still like Wheaton at slot & outside in certain situations between the 20's, only because you simply cant take AB off the field. I'd love if Coates proved quick twitch enough to rely on for RAC. There's a reason Wheaton got kick return duties, & AB refuses to give up his stranglehold on PR.

Coates #1 and #1a skills are: making the first guy miss for YAC and blocking. He's going to beat the daylights out of Wheaton for the slot job. Wheaton will still get his looks, but you don't have to take AB off the field-- you take Wheaton off the field.
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Post by V DUB » Sun May 31, 2015 4:41 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
VanWilder wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:I think Sammie Coates is going to be a huge addition, especially if they follow through with using him in the slot. The more I think about it, the more I love the idea in this offense.


I love the idea of using him there in the RZ. I still like Wheaton at slot & outside in certain situations between the 20's, only because you simply cant take AB off the field. I'd love if Coates proved quick twitch enough to rely on for RAC. There's a reason Wheaton got kick return duties, & AB refuses to give up his stranglehold on PR.

Coates #1 and #1a skills are: making the first guy miss for YAC and blocking. He's going to beat the daylights out of Wheaton for the slot job. Wheaton will still get his looks, but you don't have to take AB off the field-- you take Wheaton off the field.


I'm just saying I have to see him do at this level before handing hing him the job. He very well could.

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Post by jeemie » Sun May 31, 2015 4:43 pm

Brown, Bryant, Coates, Wheaton, if Coates can prove anything, is a hell of a WR corps.

And in OTAs, Gardner shows promise too- I hope if he can keep it up in preseason, he at least makes the practice squad (if he's eligible, that is).
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Post by Legacy User » Sun May 31, 2015 5:35 pm

Jeemie wrote:Brown, Bryant, Coates, Wheaton, if Coates can prove anything, is a hell of a WR corps.

And in OTAs, Gardner shows promise too- I hope if he can keep it up in preseason, he at least makes the practice squad (if he's eligible, that is).


Also injuries happen, In today's NFL you have to go 4 deep at WR and I mean talented 4 deep.
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Post by Jobu » Sun May 31, 2015 6:03 pm

Jeemie wrote:Brown, Bryant, Coates, Wheaton, if Coates can prove anything, is a hell of a WR corps.

And in OTAs, Gardner shows promise too- I hope if he can keep it up in preseason, he at least makes the practice squad (if he's eligible, that is).

Why wouldn't he be eligible?

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Post by jeemie » Sun May 31, 2015 6:06 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Brown, Bryant, Coates, Wheaton, if Coates can prove anything, is a hell of a WR corps.

And in OTAs, Gardner shows promise too- I hope if he can keep it up in preseason, he at least makes the practice squad (if he's eligible, that is).

Why wouldn't he be eligible?


I couldn't remember if he was a rookie or not. I just know we got him from New England.
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Post by Jobu » Sun May 31, 2015 6:15 pm

Jeemie wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Brown, Bryant, Coates, Wheaton, if Coates can prove anything, is a hell of a WR corps.

And in OTAs, Gardner shows promise too- I hope if he can keep it up in preseason, he at least makes the practice squad (if he's eligible, that is).

Why wouldn't he be eligible?


I couldn't remember if he was a rookie or not. I just know we got him from New England.

I was thinking that you knew something the rest of us didn't. ;)
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