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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:16 pm

Obviously

No surgery yet nor timetable for Bell

Will Allen and Tuitt may practice today

No repercussions on Ben knee from Sunday (good news)

Mitchell going through concussion protocol


We are on the the next challenge. The team must rally around DeAngelo Williams ( :cry: :twisted: Rally around Ben, for crying out loud ).

Amari Cooper already showing great skills

Mack a talented young impact guy a run and hit guy with pass rush capabilities
Aldon Smith-- we know what he can do.

Charles Woodson is timeless and is a tremendous player.


In last two weeks we haven't taken care of the football-- primary reason for losing. This week we will keep it simple and roll our sleeves up.

(Avoids answering whether Mike Vick is the #2)

Didn't want Dri Archer to return last ball-- would rather give the seconds to Ben (irony).

Says would choose again to keep the TO-- maintains that the defense calls different plays if we have a TO vs if we don't and that is a big deal.

"You might have done it differently and that's your choice."

(Then, a softball question about uniform rules to deflect attention from the criticism. This press corps is very well-trained.)

Robert Golden playing above the line.

Doesn't have issues with Mitchell's unsportsmanike-- said he was excited and yet even tried to get away from the guy jawing at him. (Actually I had this backwards-- Tomlin said he was unhappy with the penalty, wasn't as worried about the second celebration after the INT).

DeAngelo has displayed the necessary will to allow us to do what we have to do. It's a multi-man job replacing the skill set of Lev Bell. It might be a collection of men.

Why not scoring more in 1st half? (deflected question)

Savran wants to know if we are audtioning a punter this week (whaaaaa???)??? time to retire Stan

On 1st INT AB had a chance to compete-- unrealistic? "They made the play... also did on the other ones."

Further update on Pouncey or Adams? No. MT says he's an optimist.

Thought McLendon and McCullers got pocket push and did a nice job.

Did Steve McClendon show enough to get reps in nickel? "We did (meaning they already did it."

re: Blake... "I like his consistent physicality, especially with the perimeter ball-- minimized YAC"

It was a defensive contest and both teams were making plays. Aside from the penalties and turnovers-- it was characterized by the team that capitalized on the opportunities teed up by the D."

Fake spike-- what's the deal? "it's to get some free yards and the potential for the YAC. Enamored with that option since he saw Dan Marino do it."

How much does the type of run plays change with DeAngelo vs Bell? Doesnt change too much-- more to do with what the opponent does.

What made the difference in getting Miller more involved. "Cincy played umbrella to protect deep and sidelines, created opportunities for the middle of the field."

Deflects question about why Wheaton not getting more results-- "some of it outside (Wheaton's) control"

decision to not kick 50+ FG a reflection of the kicker's range that day in that direction? "You can take it as such."

Mitchell out of the game on the GW TD because of concussion protocol.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:19 pm

Asked about the (lack of) timeout, said he'd do it again.

What a dope. And a stubborn one. Idiot.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:22 pm

Aldon smiff...malcolm smiff

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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:26 pm

And i'm sure no one asked him why, if he's going to stubbornly stick to saying he needed a timeout, he paid an extra 9 seconds of time to secure one.

As opposed to calling two timeouts to save 10 more seconds, and then letting the clock run to the 2 minute warning.

Probably no one else outside of Steelerfury.com has figured out Tomlin paid such a premium yet.

Dude's explanations are getting worse and worse.

I think he knows he was wrong now but simply will not admit it.

The test will come if he's ever in a similar situation again.
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Post by R_S » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:26 pm

how the fuck is Aldon Smith even allowed to play

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:28 pm

Jeemie wrote:And i'm sure no one asked him why, if he's going to stubbornly stick to saying he needed a timeout, he paid an extra 9 seconds of time to secure one.

As opposed to calling two timeouts to save 10 more seconds, and then letting the clock run to the 2 minute warning.

Probably no one else outside of Steelerfury.com has figured out Tomlin paid such a premium yet.


Actually they did. There were two or three questions asked.

Tomlin doubled down on dumb. We're fucked, folks. He genuinely thinks he made the correct decision.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:28 pm

As a follow up was asked about the 9 seconds lost even if preserving a timeout. He said he had already answered that question in 'great detail.' Bullshit!! He NEVER answered that question...still hasnt

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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:29 pm

swissvale72 wrote:As a follow up was asked about the 9 seconds lost even if preserving a timeout. He said he had already answered that question in 'great detail.' Bullshit!! He NEVER answered that question...still hasnt


And he never will.

His answer was extremely lame.

If the types of defenses Cincinnati was going to call and what they might do on offense should he use his timeouts were entering into his calculus...then we are fucked from ever having him improve in this area.

He is simply considering variables that ought not to be considered, and is mucking up what is a really simple equation.
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Post by rooneytunes » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:30 pm

I tried counting "OBVIOUSLYs" but couldn't keep up
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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:33 pm

Didn't want Dri Archer to return last ball-- would rather give the seconds to Ben (irony)


Irony aside, the follow-up to this one should have been "Since you obviously didn't trust Dri to give you a spark on that last possession with a good kickoff return, and he never plays offense, for what, exactly, are you keeping him on the roster?"
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:36 pm

I think he knows he was wrong now but simply will not admit it.

I did get a whiff of that, as well.

Let's not forget that this is purely for what he wants the players to hear.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:46 pm

JackSplat58 wrote:Asked about the (lack of) timeout, said he'd do it again.

What a dope. And a stubborn one. Idiot.


I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever admitting he made a mistake strategy-wise, during a game.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:53 pm

Jeemie wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:As a follow up was asked about the 9 seconds lost even if preserving a timeout. He said he had already answered that question in 'great detail.' Bullshit!! He NEVER answered that question...still hasnt


And he never will.

His answer was extremely lame.

If the types of defenses Cincinnati was going to call and what they might do on offense should he use his timeouts were entering into his calculus...then we are fucked from ever having him improve in this area.

He is simply considering variables that ought not to be considered, and is mucking up what is a really simple equation.


Right....this wasn't even Extremely Well-Developed Line of Bullshit....this one was pure fuckin' baloney.

All he needed to do was to say that the questioner was correct, he could have saved himself 9 seconds. 'Cause any other answer is nonsense.

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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:54 pm

SteelerFan1 wrote:
JackSplat58 wrote:Asked about the (lack of) timeout, said he'd do it again.

What a dope. And a stubborn one. Idiot.


I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever admitting he made a mistake strategy-wise, during a game.


That's because No strategy, all Gut. Gut never wrong. Never wrong.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:25 pm

Imagine if you had an intern or underling at work with the same shitty attitude about correcting bad habits and mistakes.

Fuck his stubborn ignorant bullshit.
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Post by JackLambert58 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:26 pm

Tomlin's pressers are a complete waste of time.
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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:49 pm

Really wish someone would have asked:

Coach, did you happen to watch the MNF game in the pouring rain last night? Did you happen to see what Andrew Luck, who can't even sniff Ben's jock strap, and the Colts were able to do with 2:02 left of game clock and no time outs?

I find your reasoning to be so ignorant it bleeds into the realm of insulting. Under no circumstances do you let that much game clock run off down 3 in a close game. The Colts marched down the field against a good defense and nearly stole the game at the end. There are ways to move the ball and stop the clock with no timeouts, you fucking nitwit.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:55 pm

Jeemie wrote:And i'm sure no one asked him why, if he's going to stubbornly stick to saying he needed a timeout, he paid an extra 9 seconds of time to secure one.

As opposed to calling two timeouts to save 10 more seconds, and then letting the clock run to the 2 minute warning.

Probably no one else outside of Steelerfury.com has figured out Tomlin paid such a premium yet.

Dude's explanations are getting worse and worse.

I think he knows he was wrong now but simply will not admit it.

The test will come if he's ever in a similar situation again.


David Todd hammers Tomlin on clock management just about every week.

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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:14 pm

At least the argument that "the other team will call different plays if we call timeout or not" at least isn't objectively false.

Because the middle of the field, timeout more important than :38 stuff is objectively false.

To wit, if he was committed to saving 1 timeout at any cost he still did it wrong as he could have used the 2 timeouts right away and then let the 3rd snap run it to the 2:00 minute warning and save at 10 seconds while still keeping the third timeout in the pocket.

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Post by FortyThree » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:17 pm

JackSplat58 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:And i'm sure no one asked him why, if he's going to stubbornly stick to saying he needed a timeout, he paid an extra 9 seconds of time to secure one.

As opposed to calling two timeouts to save 10 more seconds, and then letting the clock run to the 2 minute warning.

Probably no one else outside of Steelerfury.com has figured out Tomlin paid such a premium yet.


Actually they did. There were two or three questions asked.

Tomlin doubled down on dumb. We're fucked, folks. He genuinely thinks he made the correct decision.


Why do you assume he's telling the truth?

What's the incentive for him, or any coach, to be honest about something like this?

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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:19 pm

fortythree wrote:Why do you assume he's telling the truth?

What's the incentive for him, or any coach, to be honest about something like this?


Like I said, the real test will be if he's ever in this type of situation again.
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Post by FortyThree » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:21 pm

We do this every week and every week you people freak out over the dumbest shit.

Who cares what Tomlin says? He's never going to admit to a mistake. The press conferences are more for him to send messages to his players than to the fans.

We are owed nothing by Tomlin. His job is to win football games and, like or not, he's done so at a far better clip than most coaches in the NFL.

Did he fuck up with clock management? Yes.
Did he admit it? No.
Does it matter what he says about the mistake? No.

What matters, what we should focus on, is if he gets in the same situation and does the exact same thing.

His comments mean nothing.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:22 pm

DRI Archer, Rid WoodRod Deion Sanders couldn't have made anything happen Sunday without mfs blocking in front of them this narrative is getting old.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:28 pm

I thought he fucked it up too at first but his explanation made sense and without that TO we were going to lose most of those seconds anyway.

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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:33 pm

pitty smitty wrote:I thought he fucked it up too at first but his explanation made sense and without that TO we were going to lose most of those seconds anyway.


Handled correctly, we maybe lose ten of those 38 seconds. Let's say the net using all three timeouts first is an additional 25 seconds- hell- even 20. It's only one additional play where we have to rush and set up for the next play, and either get the next play off or clock it.

That means there are 24-29 seconds left when we hit the 16 yard line, not 4.

Even if Tomlin makes his decision to preserve a timeout, but does it correctly by calling two timeout first and THEN letting the clock run, we have 13-14 seconds left instead of 4.

In each case, there is time to run multiple plays from the 16 instead of just one.

He fucked it up no matter which way you slice it.
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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:34 pm

R S wrote:how the fuck is Aldon Smith even allowed to play


He hasn't held any more Guns and Ho's parties and he knows when to call a timeout.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:35 pm

What I'm pissed off about is Bud Dupree only playing about 53% of the snaps, Martavious Bryant standing on the sidelines so Spaeth/Nix/Johnson can get participation trophies.. And Todd Haley not being aggressive after the defense gets a TO.. And his total lack of play calling flow...that's the shit that's costing us games

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Post by jeemie » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:36 pm

pitty smitty wrote:What I'm pissed off about is Bud Dupree only playing about 53% of the snaps, Martavious Bryant standing on the sidelines so Spaeth/Nix/Johnson can get participation trophies.. And Todd Haley not being aggressive after the defense gets a TO.. And his total lack of play calling flow...that's the shit that's costing us games


You'll get no argument from me.

Why do we have packages with Johnson and DHB in critical situations?
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Post by Obviously » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:41 pm

Jeemie wrote:
pitty smitty wrote:What I'm pissed off about is Bud Dupree only playing about 53% of the snaps, Martavious Bryant standing on the sidelines so Spaeth/Nix/Johnson can get participation trophies.. And Todd Haley not being aggressive after the defense gets a TO.. And his total lack of play calling flow...that's the shit that's costing us games


You'll get no argument from me.

Why do we have packages with Johnson and DHB in critical situations?


Because Tomlin.
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Post by steeledge » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:05 pm

fortythree wrote:We do this every week and every week you people freak out over the dumbest shit.

Who cares what Tomlin says? He's never going to admit to a mistake. The press conferences are more for him to send messages to his players than to the fans.

We are owed nothing by Tomlin. His job is to win football games and, like or not, he's done so at a far better clip than most coaches in the NFL.

Did he fuck up with clock management? Yes.
Did he admit it? No.
Does it matter what he says about the mistake? No.

What matters, what we should focus on, is if he gets in the same situation and does the exact same thing.

His comments mean nothing.


C'mon, man...

You make it sound as if there's no precedent of this piss-poor clock management bullshit with Tomlin.

As if to say, "let's see what happens next time", like there isn't already way too many next times.

Are you seriously that fucking naïve?


...I guess The Standard is The Standard... :roll: :(

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