Shazier did not practice. Not looking good

[rooneytunes]

FUCK

Suisham
Gradkowski
Hartley
Pouncey
Allen
Bell suspended
Bryant suspended
Ben
Shazier


Can't catch a break this year. Injury/Bullshit worm needs to turn positive.

[StillerInCT]

Well Bell is back at least, but yeah we aren't getting any breaks. Schedule isn't full of cupcakes either. A little adversity, if we can over come it, would do wonders in the playoffs.

[steelmann58]

i am beliving now more and more what was said on the Tunch and Wolf show Nerve damage

[Orangesteel]

Nerve damage from a fucking tackle? Good gravy.

[jeemie]

i am beliving now more and more what was said on the Tunch and Wolf show Nerve damage

I've heard that.

it could also be a separated shoulder...I've heard that going around too.

I wish the Steelers would be more forthcoming but Tomlin does like to play coy with the injury report.

After looking for what was said here- whenever Shazier celebrated, he never moved the arm in the sling- I'd say it's at least a couple more weeks before he can play.

[steelmann58]

I would agree he won't be around for a while

[Legacy User]

Hard to believe that its actual nerve damage. More likely a mislocated nerve especially since he has his arm in a sling. Strange how the assclown medical staff cant manipulate the nerve back to where it belongs. Or find a doctor to do the same. I'm only saying that because I had something similar with a shoulder and yes it will get weaker with time, not heal with time. A mislocated nerve doesnt repair its location on its own.

[steelmann58]

What type of DR is Joseph Maroon thought he was top flight doctor.

[stairway 2 seven]

I wonder if next year they would consider moving Shazier to strong safety.Maybe he'll be able to avoid injury away from the front 7. If shmarko isn't the answer what other choices do they have? This has to be old man will Allen's last year starting. He'll be 34 next year. Seems we have depth at ilb and if he can make the transition, the secondary will show definite improvement and solves a need.

[Legacy User]

What type of DR is Joseph Maroon thought he was top flight doctor.

No idea but anyone that had a mislocated (pinched?) nerve in the shoulder knows that its rubbing on something that it shouldn't. That's because it aches like a mouth full of teeth that need to be pulled.

This happened a long time ago but I took care of it caveman style by grabbing on sturdy door knob on a closed door and pulled until my shoulder felt like it was stretching. Actually IIRC I did it with as much strength as I could without wrecking the door. I guessed it pulled the shoulder straight because the pain went away.. I kept on doing it after it was good for a least a few weeks after, just to be sure.

[Legacy User]

Assclown medical staff? Are you a doctor? Only on a fansite can you read comments like this one.

[Suwanee88]

I wonder if next year they would consider moving Shazier to strong safety.Maybe he'll be able to avoid injury away from the front 7. If shmarko isn't the answer what other choices do they have? This has to be old man will Allen's last year starting. He'll be 34 next year. Seems we have depth at ilb and if he can make the transition, the secondary will show definite improvement and solves a need.

He is playing like he is 24 - doesn't look old to me yet at all. But I agree they need a long term answer, I don't think it will be Shazier - they are way too conservative to do something like this.

[StillerInCT]

Does anyone know how many regular season games Shaz has actually played in? Not knocking him. Just curious.

[R_S]

Hard to believe that its actual nerve damage. More likely a mislocated nerve especially since he has his arm in a sling. Strange how the assclown medical staff cant manipulate the nerve back to where it belongs. Or find a doctor to do the same. I'm only saying that because I had something similar with a shoulder and yes it will get weaker with time, not heal with time. A mislocated nerve doesnt repair its location on its own.

So we speculate that its a mislocated nerve (with absolutely no evidence)and then assume that the medical team missed the diagnosis and are a bunch of incompetent assclowns, unable to properly to treat the condition. All on the basis of a completely made up speculation.....bravo!

[R_S]

I wonder if next year they would consider moving Shazier to strong safety.Maybe he'll be able to avoid injury away from the front 7. If shmarko isn't the answer what other choices do they have? This has to be old man will Allen's last year starting. He'll be 34 next year. Seems we have depth at ilb and if he can make the transition, the secondary will show definite improvement and solves a need.

So why would playing an in the box safety who's often filling at high speeds protect his shoulder? Also, why would you assume just because he ran fast in a straight line he'd be capable of playing a completely new position in the National Football League for the first tim. This isn't Madden Football on your X-box or whatever the hell.

[tbsteel]

No offense intended, but the idea to move Shazier to safety is really really really off target. Really.

[Legacy User]

Hard to believe that its actual nerve damage. More likely a mislocated nerve especially since he has his arm in a sling. Strange how the assclown medical staff cant manipulate the nerve back to where it belongs. Or find a doctor to do the same. I'm only saying that because I had something similar with a shoulder and yes it will get weaker with time, not heal with time. A mislocated nerve doesnt repair its location on its own.

So we speculate that its a mislocated nerve (with absolutely no evidence)and then assume that the medical team missed the diagnosis and are a bunch of incompetent assclowns, unable to properly to treat the condition. All on the basis of a completely made up speculation.....bravo!

Well yeah since I'm not treating him, I'm speculating on my own limited experience with my shoulder that gad similar symtoms.. Its a message board. If anyone else has experience with the same it would be of interest, imo.

[stairway 2 seven]

I wonder if next year they would consider moving Shazier to strong safety.Maybe he'll be able to avoid injury away from the front 7. If shmarko isn't the answer what other choices do they have? This has to be old man will Allen's last year starting. He'll be 34 next year. Seems we have depth at ilb and if he can make the transition, the secondary will show definite improvement and solves a need.

So why would playing an in the box safety who's often filling at high speeds protect his shoulder? Also, why would you assume just because he ran fast in a straight line he'd be capable of playing a completely new position in the National Football League for the first tim. This isn't Madden Football on your X-box or whatever the hell.

If he doesn't have to take on ol in the scrum wouldn't that prevent him from getting worn down? He's pretty damn athletic and his size is more in line with a safety then lb. lee Atwater and Tim McDonald were good safetys in their day and they were way bigger then Shazier. If de can transition to olb and have to drop back in coverage, why couldn't a lb transition to safety?

[R_S]

Hard to believe that its actual nerve damage. More likely a mislocated nerve especially since he has his arm in a sling. Strange how the assclown medical staff cant manipulate the nerve back to where it belongs. Or find a doctor to do the same. I'm only saying that because I had something similar with a shoulder and yes it will get weaker with time, not heal with time. A mislocated nerve doesnt repair its location on its own.

So we speculate that its a mislocated nerve (with absolutely no evidence)and then assume that the medical team missed the diagnosis and are a bunch of incompetent assclowns, unable to properly to treat the condition. All on the basis of a completely made up speculation.....bravo!

Well yeah since I'm not treating him, I'm speculating on my own limited experience with my shoulder that gad similar symtoms.. Its a message board. If anyone else has experience with the same it would be of interest, imo.

It's perfectly fine to speculate on the injury. But when you start motherfucking the medical staff based on something that may not even exist, well that just sounds dumb.

[jeemie]

It's perfectly fine to speculate on the injury. But when you start motherfucking the medical staff based on something that may not even exist, well that just sounds dumb.

I was thinking the same thing.

We have no idea whether the injury is actually a mislocated nerve...yet we're judging the Steelers' medical staff?

[bradshaw2ben]

I wonder if next year they would consider moving Shazier to strong safety.Maybe he'll be able to avoid injury away from the front 7. If shmarko isn't the answer what other choices do they have? This has to be old man will Allen's last year starting. He'll be 34 next year. Seems we have depth at ilb and if he can make the transition, the secondary will show definite improvement and solves a need.

So why would playing an in the box safety who's often filling at high speeds protect his shoulder? Also, why would you assume just because he ran fast in a straight line he'd be capable of playing a completely new position in the National Football League for the first tim. This isn't Madden Football on your X-box or whatever the hell.

If he doesn't have to take on ol in the scrum wouldn't that prevent him from getting worn down? He's pretty damn athletic and his size is more in line with a safety then lb. lee Atwater and Tim McDonald were good safetys in their day and they were way bigger then Shazier. If de can transition to olb and have to drop back in coverage, why couldn't a lb transition to safety?

Shazier isn't nearly good enough in coverage-- he's not even that good at coverage as a LB.

[Legacy User]

It's perfectly fine to speculate on the injury. But when you start motherfucking the medical staff based on something that may not even exist, well that just sounds dumb.

Point taken, well dumb happens on message boards. Still if someone has an "erroneous" idea it better to express it and learn rather than sit there and stew in ignorance, imo: So personally I don't mind getting called out if I'm going down the wrong path. Actually I appreciate it, if the person giving has actually thought the idea through correctly. Sometimes its the only way that one learns. Not that I'm asking for every nit wit on the board to chirp up but if you have a good point ok. Otherwise wear a hat and no one will notice. Now if I would had read your response before my 2 cups of coffee it would probably be



but thats just me ....In any case I had my coffee and you've been a good poster for a long time, thanks for the response.

[Legacy User]

i dont think its much of a reach to question any football team.....medical staff....

[DP39]

i dont think its much of a reach to question any football team.....medical staff....

Dr. Maroon is a world-renowned neurosurgeon with both a national and international referral base. Patients seek out Dr. Maroon for his expertise in minimally invasive surgery of the spine and brain. For the past 15 consecutive years Dr. Maroon has been listed in America’s Best Doctors, indicating his status as a “TOP DOCTOR” in neurological surgery.

He is performing brain/spinal surgery on a relative of mine in the next few weeks. I'm in the medical field and I wouldn't want anyone else performing the surgery in the region and quite possibly the country. Plain and simple, he's one of the best in his field.

[R_S]

i dont think its much of a reach to question any football team.....medical staff....

Maybe when it comes to pain injections and bringing people pack to early. But for the most part, these medical staffs are the best money can buy. That doesn't make them perfect, as they are human.


My two cents and speculation on the Shazier injury is this. Slight separation that caused some trauma/stretch of the nerves of the brachial plexus (which is what a stinger is) A bad enough stinger can cause some weakness to linger. They may be erring on the side of caution, but if Shazpuss isn't back for the Chargers, then it's time to worry.

[Ice]

What type of DR is Joseph Maroon thought he was top flight doctor.

What a Maroon.

[jeemie]

What type of DR is Joseph Maroon thought he was top flight doctor.

What a Maroon.

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[Jobu]

What type of DR is Joseph Maroon thought he was top flight doctor.

He's one of the best in the biz...but he's certainly no Tunch and Wolf!

[Ice]

Pretty sure the poster above was referring to Steve Atwater, the former Bengals safety, not Lee Atwater, the circa 1988 rockabilly guitar hero chairman of the Republican party.

McDonald and Atwater played in a completely different era of safety play from where the league is now. I like Shazier a lot, as a player and as an athletic specimen. If you moved him to safety, he would be constantly forced into matchups against WR, which he would lose. TB and B2B are right, this idea makes ILB and S worse.

[Obviously]

i dont think its much of a reach to question any football team.....medical staff....

Dr. Maroon is a world-renowned neurosurgeon with both a national and international referral base. Patients seek out Dr. Maroon for his expertise in minimally invasive surgery of the spine and brain. For the past 15 consecutive years Dr. Maroon has been listed in America’s Best Doctors, indicating his status as a “TOP DOCTOR” in neurological surgery.

He is performing brain/spinal surgery on a relative of mine in the next few weeks. I'm in the medical field and I wouldn't want anyone else performing the surgery in the region and quite possibly the country. Plain and simple, he's one of the best in his field.

Never proven wrong