hows that not illegal hit.??

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:48 pm

dude fucking crawled 3 yards to deliver a cutthroat bullshit hit to ben.. seriously..thought the brady rule covered this shit.. yet no flag..nothing... :cry:

dude took him out dirty as fuck!
exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it had to be flagged!! why not!!! I watched replay 6 times.. he targeted bens knee!!! whers the brady rule???

BethlehemSteel · Post by **BethlehemSteel** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:51 pm

bam morris wrote:dude fucking crawled 3 yards to deliver a cutthroat bullshit hit to ben.. seriously..thought the brady rule covered this shit.. yet no flag..nothing...dude took him out dirty as fuck!

It does but that's never been applied to Ben

We will ride

Kodiak · Post by **Kodiak** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:51 pm

I thought by letter of the rule, it's a penalty.

And I hate it. To me that's just a football play. Expecting guys to control their body while flying thru the air is just dumb.

R_S · Post by **R_S** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:52 pm

it was a football play. Shit happens. As a defender your scraping and clawing to get to the QB anyway you can. You sound like a Ravens fan.

BTW: Peaches live on CBS!

swissvale72 · Post by **swissvale72** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:54 pm

R S wrote:it was a football play. Shit happens. As a defender your scraping and clawing to get to the QB anyway you can. You sound like a Ravens fan.

BTW: Peaches live on CBS!

Honest to God....there was incessant bellyaching on the game thread, begging for a flat.

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:56 pm

Not intentional and therefore not illegal. We can't as Steeler fans, have it both ways; complaining about how pussified the league has become and then begging for a flag for a legit hit.

R_S · Post by **R_S** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:58 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
R S wrote:it was a football play. Shit happens. As a defender your scraping and clawing to get to the QB anyway you can. You sound like a Ravens fan.

BTW: Peaches live on CBS!

Honest to God....there was incessant bellyaching on the game thread, begging for a flat.

Your first mistake is ever going to a game thread

StillerInCT · Post by **StillerInCT** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:58 pm

There was a rule put in place in the past 5 years that said you can't come in low like that. We've been flagged for that exact play.

Minkah'n History · Post by **Minkah'n History** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:01 pm

Some random Rams fan at the bar today made it a point to tell me he got pushed into Ben. He said, "hey, I don't want you thinking we have a dirty team or anything. I was like, huh?

He just stared at the TV when they showed the replay, I looked over at him and said, you were saying?

R_S · Post by **R_S** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:02 pm

I suppose it could have been flagged, but saying it was dirty as fuck, or a cheap shot makes me ill.

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:03 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
R S wrote:it was a football play. Shit happens. As a defender your scraping and clawing to get to the QB anyway you can. You sound like a Ravens fan.

BTW: Peaches live on CBS!

Honest to God....there was incessant bellyaching on the game thread, begging for a flat.

Sorry that was a penalty. It really doesn't matter. At that point nothing matters- our franchise player is on the ground. But it should have been 15 yards.

SteelerZen · Post by **SteelerZen** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:09 pm

I don't think it was intentional, but it should have been a penalty. It is the Brady rule, simple as that. Whether the guy meant to do it or not, stumbled, whatever.

That said, the rule is stupid to begin with, and only exists because the Great Ball Deflator was hit once.

steelsmitty · Post by **steelsmitty** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:16 pm

Kodiak wrote:I thought by letter of the rule, it's a penalty.

And I hate it. To me that's just a football play. Expecting guys to control their body while flying thru the air is just dumb.

Have to agree. By rule a flag should've been thrown but it was simply a player trying to make a play

BethlehemSteel · Post by **BethlehemSteel** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:31 pm

That's the whole issue

Letter of law simply this

The Rule is pansy like the pussy lying deflator himself

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:33 pm

It should have been flagged but who really gives a shit at this point.

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:09 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
R S wrote:it was a football play. Shit happens. As a defender your scraping and clawing to get to the QB anyway you can. You sound like a Ravens fan.

BTW: Peaches live on CBS!

Honest to God....there was incessant bellyaching on the game thread, begging for a flat.

horse shit. that's a penaltiy most of time... if precious payton or adorable tom got hit that way its a penalty..every fucking time.. this was a travesty!

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:10 pm

steelsmitty wrote:
Kodiak wrote:I thought by letter of the rule, it's a penalty.

And I hate it. To me that's just a football play. Expecting guys to control their body while flying thru the air is just dumb.

Have to agree. By rule a flag should've been thrown but it was simply a player trying to make a play

dude crawled and crawled more to ram bens knee!! and he rammed.. horse shit! protect the qb??? right

R_S · Post by **R_S** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:12 pm

he crawled and crawled to try to get Bens leg, sack him, and prevent his opponent from scoring. Ya know, his fucking job!

K_C_ · Post by **K_C_** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:14 pm

R S wrote:he crawled and crawled to try to get Bens leg, sack him, and prevent his opponent from scoring. Ya know, his fucking job!

He crawled while unblocked, into Ben's knee.

Not saying he tried to hurt Roethlisberger (possible, but tough to determine) but no doubt whatsoever what he did deserved a flag.

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:15 pm

Expectations.

This is my analysis:

Ben is known for extending plays. Because he extends plays, the referees allow him to extend the play. In their minds, he places himself in that situation; as a result the pass rusher is not at fault. They do not categorize him as a "pocket passer" even though he is as good as any in that role. It is a perception the referees have and it is unfortunate. Ben has been at been at the receiving end of those non-calls for years. Broken noses, injured knees, etc. I don't think the player was intending to hit him that way, he was just trying to get to him in whatever way possible. h

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:17 pm

R S wrote:he crawled and crawled to try to get Bens leg, sack him, and prevent his opponent from scoring. Ya know, his fucking job!

yes!!! exactly..but this has been called and punished many times by nfl..ive seen it called on our beloved steelers...it was clear intent to injure..mame!!

Mick · Post by **Mick** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:21 pm

CalSteeler wrote:Not intentional and therefore not illegal. We can't as Steeler fans, have it both ways; complaining about how pussified the league has become and then begging for a flag for a legit hit.

my complaint is that that's called against us 105 times out of 100, and never called for us. Don't care too much whether that rule is on the books or not.

jebrick · Post by **jebrick** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:22 pm

Steeel wrote:Expectations.

This is my analysis:

Ben is known for extending plays. Because he extends plays, the referees allow him to extend the play. In their minds, he places himself in that situation; as a result the pass rusher is not at fault. They do not categorize him as a "pocket passer" even though he is as good as any in that role. It is a perception the referees have and it is unfortunate. Ben has been at been at the receiving end of those non-calls for years. Broken noses, injured knees, etc. I don't think the player was intending to hit him that way, he was just trying to get to him in whatever way possible. h

Was Ben scrambling or in the grasp? Is it illegal to hit a QB in the pocket below the knee? I think the answer is yes since KVO did the exact same thing to Carson Palmer in 2005 playoff game.

Matters not at this point but it should have been a 15 yard penalty.

drmalba · Post by **drmalba** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:27 pm

jebrick wrote:
Steeel wrote: Was Ben scrambling or in the grasp? Is it illegal to hit a QB in the pocket below the knee? I think the answer is yes since KVO did the exact same thing to Carson Palmer in 2005 playoff game.

Matters not at this point but it should have been a 15 yard penalty.

I was just gonna say we got Oelhoffen-ed...

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:31 pm

mick wrote:
CalSteeler wrote:Not intentional and therefore not illegal. We can't as Steeler fans, have it both ways; complaining about how pussified the league has become and then begging for a flag for a legit hit.
my complaint is that that's called against us 105 times out of 100, and never called for us. Don't care too much whether that rule is on the books or not.

I agree and that does annoy me. But a shit call is a shit call and I hate them regardless.

swissvale72 · Post by **swissvale72** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:43 pm

bam morris wrote:
R S wrote:he crawled and crawled to try to get Bens leg, sack him, and prevent his opponent from scoring. Ya know, his fucking job!

yes!!! exactly..but this has been called and punished many times by nfl..ive seen it called on our beloved steelers...it was clear intent to injure..mame!!

No way was it an intent to injure....was an intent to tackle; that's all.

R_S · Post by **R_S** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:50 pm

bam morris wrote:
R S wrote:he crawled and crawled to try to get Bens leg, sack him, and prevent his opponent from scoring. Ya know, his fucking job!

yes!!! exactly..but this has been called and punished many times by nfl..ive seen it called on our beloved steelers...it was clear intent to injure..mame!!

so the defender has a chance to get Ben by the leg....he's supposed to just stop and let him go ahead and complete the pass. I'm sure he was thinking "fuck i gotta take this fuckers knee out" get real. sober up.

Suwanee88 · Post by **Suwanee88** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:00 am

You guys may not believe this and I wish I had posted it last week, but here is a crazy story.

I was in PGH for the 49ers game. Next morning, I returned rental car to Hertz at airport. This guy checks me in - crazy SOB, but interesting guy - we start talking Steelers.

He tells me that an NFL scout who he met at the airport Hertz check in - told him that the Rams were going to try and take Ben out of the game with a low hit - no bullshit. I thought he was fucking crazy so I never thought of it again until today.

Legacy User · Post by **Legacy User** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:05 am

It was a low hit. In the course of the game by a guy likely trying to make a play but low nonetheless. By the reading of the rule. Its a penalty. The fact that its a penalty does not mean Ben is no longer hurt. For those remotely surprised we didn't see a flag ... you don't watch many Steelers games. The end.

Scunge · Post by **Scunge** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:51 am

It most certainly was a penalty. We are lucky it did not cost us the game.

Vick came out and was in a 3rd and forever situation and we went conservative and conceded that we weren't getting the first down. We just wanted to punt and get it over with, didn't want to have Vick try and pick up a 3rd and 22? situation and turn the ball over.

But....What should have happened is that we get a penalty for the low hit on Ben and automatic first down, Vick takes his first snap under center at the 50 yard line and maybe we get a touchdown out of that drive, or a field goal at the least.

By not calling that penalty, the refs really could have cost us the game. Being dirty has nothing to do with, saying the player has no control over his stumbling feet has nothing to do with it, saying it would not bring Ben back healthy, has nothing to do with it. It was a penalty and should have been called.

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