I don't think the defense played all that poorly

[jeemie]

The long play that set up the TD that made it 21-20 was well-defended...simply bad luck of the bounce got the ball into Graham's hands.

Steelers made a great play a couple series later where they missed forcing a fumble by an eyelash...ball was just OOB before Cockrell fell on it.

Some breakdowns at the end...especially by Blake, but the effort and the results were there for most of the game.

Turnovers on O and not completing drives on O, and shit play by STs were more of a story than the defense.

[BethlehemSteel]

The long play that set up the TD that made it 21-20 was well-defended...simply bad luck of the bounce got the ball into Graham's hands.

Steelers made a great play a couple series later where they missed forcing a fumble by an eyelash...ball was just OOB before Cockrell fell on it.

Some breakdowns at the end...especially by Blake, but the effort and the results were there for most of the game.

You cannot honestly say that by fast forwarding through TIVO

They sucked, coaching sucked too. Ben never wins throwing 55 times. This loss is on Tomlin square one.

JEsting that you'd miss the game and last time they lost and Ben got hurt, happy now mr hall monitor?

Next time put the fucking kid on the bus

[Legacy User]

I mean...... they did give up 39 points. That ain't good

[jeemie]

I mean...... they did give up 39 points. That ain't good

Short fields and turnovers played a large part in that.

[jeemie]

The long play that set up the TD that made it 21-20 was well-defended...simply bad luck of the bounce got the ball into Graham's hands.

Steelers made a great play a couple series later where they missed forcing a fumble by an eyelash...ball was just OOB before Cockrell fell on it.

Some breakdowns at the end...especially by Blake, but the effort and the results were there for most of the game.

You cannot honestly say that by fast forwarding through TIVO

They sucked, coaching sucked too. Ben never wins throwing 55 times. This loss is on Tomlin square one.

JEsting that you'd miss the game and last time they lost and Ben got hurt, happy now mr hall monitor?

Next time put the fucking kid on the bus

I'm watching it more carefully right now...especially the fourth quarter.

Steelers had plenty of opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off...they let Seattle hang around.

[steelmann58]

Sorry they could not get off the field on 3rd down today and at least 3 of those 3rd down were of the long varirety.

[BethlehemSteel]

The long play that set up the TD that made it 21-20 was well-defended...simply bad luck of the bounce got the ball into Graham's hands.

Steelers made a great play a couple series later where they missed forcing a fumble by an eyelash...ball was just OOB before Cockrell fell on it.

Some breakdowns at the end...especially by Blake, but the effort and the results were there for most of the game.

You cannot honestly say that by fast forwarding through TIVO

They sucked, coaching sucked too. Ben never wins throwing 55 times. This loss is on Tomlin square one.

JEsting that you'd miss the game and last time they lost and Ben got hurt, happy now mr hall monitor?

Next time put the fucking kid on the bus

I'm watching it more carefully right now...especially the fourth quarter.

Steelers had plenty of opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off...they let Seattle hang around.

They made stupid plays at key parts of the game. First half fake.

Second half down 2 and 3rd and 9....rush 9 and leave MistakebyBlake in single coverage on a dump off....he runs 80, no over the top.

Momumentally indefensible. LOSS!!!

[Legacy User]

I mean...... they did give up 39 points. That ain't good

Short fields and turnovers played a large part in that.

And? They still gave up the points

[Kodiak]

6 TD's - they didn't force one FG on a scoring drive, short field or not.

And the offense didn't put them away or sustain drives? 30+ isn't enough?

Someone bitched in the game thread about 500 yards and only 27+ points. ST and defense sucked and forced the offense to go long fields all day.

They had a 7+ minute scoring drive and then the next series, I think, they were trying to move the chains on 3rd and 2 but no one was open and so Ben threw a jump ball to Bryant in man coverage.

A couple of unlucky interceptions, but the offense was otherwise outstanding.

[swissvale72]

Sorry they could not get off the field on 3rd down today and at least 3 of those 3rd down were of the long varirety.

Gave up three third & longs on one possession.

Gave up a TD on 3rd & goal from the 16 .....then there was the final 3rd & 9.

[jeemie]

6 TD's - they didn't force one FG on a scoring drive, short field or not.

And the offense didn't put them away or sustain drives? 30+ isn't enough?

Someone bitched in the game thread about 500 yards and only 27+ points. ST and defense sucked and forced the offense to go long fields all day.

They had a 7+ minute scoring drive and then the next series, I think, they were trying to move the chains on 3rd and 2 but no one was open and so Ben threw a jump ball to Bryant in man coverage.

A couple of unlucky interceptions, but the offense was otherwise outstanding.

They had scored only 21 points in 3+ quarters.

They were not outstanding...they were inefficient...again. They didn't finish drives...again.

Defense broke down on some key plays late...but for most of the game, they played well...they didn't hold Seattle to FG drives, but held them to NO points on several drives.

[Havoc]

I mean...... they did give up 39 points. That ain't good

Short fields and turnovers played a large part in that.

It played a part, but not a large part. The defense gave up 39.

The worst field position was the Landry interception putting them at our 24.

The other 2 were at our 39 and 37.

Our defense should have been able to hold them to a fg on at least one of those. All of those short fields could have been defended in terms of holding them to a fg.

The defense did not give our offense any short field opportunities. That's the difference from a lot of games this year when the D "did enough".

You cannot go into a game expecting zero TO's from our offense.

[swissvale72]

Dunno, Jeems....I know Seahags had three short fields.

But going in....had we know Steelers would score 32, we'd have taken it....thought we would've won.

[jeemie]

I damn well CAN expect zero turnovers from the offense.

And you should too.

[Havoc]

TO's are part of the game.

If we go into a game believing we cannot win if we do not have zero TO's, we are in serious trouble before it even starts.

[jeemie]

Dunno, Jeems....I know Seahags had three short fields.

But going in....had we know Steelers would score 32, we'd have taken it....thought we would've won.

I'm not absolving the defense...they did break down in the end.

But they held Seattle to 14 points for nearly three quarters, giving our offense opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off.

Our offense squandered those opportunities. For all we moved the ball, we scored two TDs and two FGs during that time.

Still lots of yards yielding not enough points.

[Kodiak]

They had scored only 21 points in 3+ quarters.

You're really reaching. They put up 30+. That should be enough in the NFL if your defense doesn't suck. Period.

Two unlucky picks, but the offense and Ben played pretty damn well against a good defense. The offense held up its end - coaching and defense lost this game. Period.

[BethlehemSteel]

3rd and longs doomed them time and time again. Sucking wind, sucking space, just flat out sucking.

[Kodiak]

But they held Seattle to 14 points for nearly three quarters, giving our offense opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off.

Our offense squandered those opportunities. For all we moved the ball, we scored two TDs and two FGs during that time.

Still lots of yards yielding not enough points.

Jeems, do you realize how fucking stupid this sounds? You're criticizing the offense for not "blowing the doors off" against a top defense on the road? You act like SEA is CLE.

So now scoring 30+ isn't good enough, they have to do it in, what, 3 quarters? The first half? Their first 4 possessions? I just wonder what you consider "good" or "efficient" against a team with the 3rd best redzone defense in the league.

[jeemie]

The first INT was unlucky.

The second one...you're letting Phil Simms influence your thinking. Antonio Brown got his ass owned by Sherman on that play. If the situation had been reversed, and our DB got flagged for DPI for coverage like that, you would have gone ballistic.

Coaching was stupid. Defense broke down.

But the offense had the chance to make this game theirs...and they didn't do it.

Was a breakdown in all phases at different moments in the game.

[jeemie]

But they held Seattle to 14 points for nearly three quarters, giving our offense opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off.

Our offense squandered those opportunities. For all we moved the ball, we scored two TDs and two FGs during that time.

Still lots of yards yielding not enough points.

Jeems, do you realize how fucking stupid this sounds? You're criticizing the offense for not "blowing the doors off" against a top defense on the road? You act like SEA is CLE.

So now scoring 30+ isn't good enough, they have to do it in, what, 3 quarters? The first half? Their first 4 possessions? I just wonder what you consider "good" or "efficient" against a team with the 3rd best redzone defense in the league.

No I don't act like Seattle was Cleveland.

I expect our offense to execute when they have the opportunity to do so.

They didn't...and it wasn't that Seattle stopped them in key moments...they stopped themselves.

[Havoc]

Dunno, Jeems....I know Seahags had three short fields.

But going in....had we know Steelers would score 32, we'd have taken it....thought we would've won.

I'm not absolving the defense...they did break down in the end.

But they held Seattle to 14 points for nearly three quarters, giving our offense opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off.

Our offense squandered those opportunities. For all we moved the ball, we scored two TDs and two FGs during that time.

Still lots of yards yielding not enough points.

4th and 1 from their 2 and 4th and goal from the 3. We kicked fg's.

The HC played those situations believing our D would hold up it's end of the deal, but in the end (since the game is 4 quarters) ... they didn't.

[Legacy User]

Dunno, Jeems....I know Seahags had three short fields.

But going in....had we know Steelers would score 32, we'd have taken it....thought we would've won.

I'm not absolving the defense...they did break down in the end.

But they held Seattle to 14 points for nearly three quarters, giving our offense opportunities to blow Seattle's doors off.

Our offense squandered those opportunities. For all we moved the ball, we scored two TDs and two FGs during that time.

Still lots of yards yielding not enough points.

4th and 1 from their 2 and 4th and goal from the 3. We kicked fg's.

The HC played those situations believing our D would hold up it's end of the deal, but in the end (since the game is 4 quarters) ... they didn't.

that was killer...tomlin go for 2 from there in an instant..yet go for 6 from virtually same spot? oh hell no.. odd as fuck

[steelmann58]

His Gut decisions were really upsetting.

[W&M_Steeler]

Dunno, Jeems....I know Seahags had three short fields.

4th and 1 from their 2 and 4th and goal from the 3. We kicked fg's.

The HC played those situations believing our D would hold up it's end of the deal, but in the end (since the game is 4 quarters) ... they didn't.

that was killer...tomlin go for 2 from there in an instant..yet go for 6 from virtually same spot? oh hell no.. odd as fuck

I'll never understand that. Tomlin is overly aggressive with 2PCs, but his ass puckers when faced with the decision of going for it on 4th and short at the goal line. Ridiculous. He earned the name "Field Goal Tomlin" after today's debacle.

[Kodiak]

No I don't act like Seattle was Cleveland.

I expect our offense to execute when they have the opportunity to do so.

They didn't...and it wasn't that Seattle stopped them in key moments...they stopped themselves.

SEA gets paid, too. Again, 30+ I can't believe people are bitching about the offense. On the road against a good team and people bitch because the offense isn't perfect.

[Havoc]

Our offense started 1 drive at the opponents 49.

The rest of the game, the best starting field position was our own 27.

Pretty impressive our offense was able to put up 30 vs the seattle defense in their house when you consider this.

And we left 3 more on the board but our HC elected to remove his franchise qb and put the football into the hands of Landry Jones which resulted in the best field position for Seattle all game.

[franco32]

6 TDs and a total abortion in the secondary with multiple busted coverages. We were terrible on 3rd down and had no pass rush the whole game. Zero turnovers (although they were close) and zero big impact plays. Countless missed tackles. It was a dreadful game.

I can't emphasize this enough. It was 1985 defense bad.

[Legacy User]

No I don't act like Seattle was Cleveland.

I expect our offense to execute when they have the opportunity to do so.

They didn't...and it wasn't that Seattle stopped them in key moments...they stopped themselves.

SEA gets paid, too. Again, 30+ I can't believe people are bitching about the offense. On the road against a good team and people bitch because the offense isn't perfect.

4 turnovers kill tho..no turnovers and its a steeler blowout....

[jeemie]

6 TDs and a total abortion in the secondary with multiple busted coverages. We were terrible on 3rd down and had no pass rush the whole game. Zero turnovers (although they were close) and zero big impact plays. Countless missed tackles. It was a dreadful game.

I can't emphasize this enough. It was 1985 defense bad.

This is what I'm talking about.

The defense was not great, but they were not, in fact, "1985 bad".

For three plus quarters they were plenty good enough.

We execute on offense in places where we had the opportunities (and yes, Tomlin's decisions were horrible, I agree) and maybe the fourth quarter isn't so bad for the D.

And I have a real issue with the offensive game plan as a whole. I'm not one for preaching "balance" but I thought there was way too much passing in this game, and in a couple of places, where we chose to finally run was really odd.

I'm blaming all phases of the game for this loss.

Sorry...I am not going to praise the offense for what they did tonight...it wasn't as good as everyone thinks.