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Ladarius Green could retire

Post by Legacy User » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:14 pm

Ladarius Green could retire

Updating a previous report, Pittsburgh Steelers TE Ladarius Green (concussion) may be considering retirement if his recurring headaches persist, according to a source. There is also speculation that the Steelers could cut Green.

TIP: A bad situation has quickly turned into a worse one for Green and the Steelers. If the tight end hangs up his cleats or is released, then Jesse James would suddenly garner sleeper attention. This situation will need to be monitored leading up to the regular season, but it's best to place Green outside of TE1 territory for now.



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Post by Orangesteel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:23 pm

Good lord, this sucks.

Bryant suspended for year

Bell pending 4 game suspension

Green may never take a snap as a Steeler.

What's next, Ben goes on a bender, hops on the motorcycle and forgets his helmet?
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:23 pm

Link? Source?

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:24 pm

Good start to the season. Jesus Christ

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:31 pm

BarryFoster wrote:Good start to the season. Jesus Christ


None of this happened before you went optimistic.


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Post by alancac98 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:32 pm

He needs to see the doctor that help Sidney Crosby with the same thing two years ago.

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Post by Orangesteel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:33 pm

Well the "source" has to be a FF one because they are using FF terminology.

That said, the other two reports that were linked today essentially confirm the same about the injury/symptoms. Jeesh this blows.
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:08 pm

This is assholio article

Th headache thing is one of those other things i thought of when we signed him amid the other injuries

Hope we are scouting other teams for TEs

The NFL Media report, attributed to an unnamed member of the Steelers, regarding the recurring headaches suffered by tight end Ladarius Green raises questions about the player’s future, and regarding his contract.

First, rumors of Green dealing with lingering headaches have been circulating since training camp opened. The person who first mentioned the ongoing headaches to PFT suggested that Green is considering retirement. If the headaches don’t resolve, retirement remains an option.

Second, earlier today the same source told PFT that there’s new speculation that the Steelers may eventually cut Green.

Third, the Steelers could end up recovering (or at least trying to recover) Green’s $4.75 million signing bonus. If he retires, Green definitely owes the money. Even if he’s cut, however, there’s a chance the Steelers could make the same argument the Patriots advanced three years ago regarding defensive end Jonathan Fanene.

in 2013, the Patriots signed Fanene, gave him a $3.85 million signing bonus, and later cut him due to a knee injury that, as the team argued, came from a condition he had failed to disclose. If Green didn’t tell the Steelers he was still experiencing headaches at the time he was signed (and if he was indeed experiencing headaches), the Steelers could try to recover the $4.75 million.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:36 pm

Everything about Green has been Potential. He sat behind Gates for four years and met with minimal accomplishment. It sucks really bad but he has not taken the field yet so we might not ever know what the Potential could have resulted into. He never played a down for the Steelers so... if he retires No loss.

LATROBE, Penn. -- The Pittsburgh Steelers made just one splashy -- and much-needed -- free agent signing this past offseason, tight end Ladarius Green. They have yet to see him in their offense, though, and a member of the organization, informed of the player's health, said it has nothing to do with the tight end's surgically-repaired ankle -- but is instead an issue with recurring headaches.

Green signed a four-year, $20-million contract in March, which included a $4.75 million signing bonus, but he has yet to practice.


His ankle surgery in January ostensibly kept him out of spring practices and minicamp and he's spent the entirety of training camp on the physically unable to perform list. Steelers coach Mike Tomlin has maintained that Green's sustained absence from the field is not entirely unexpected, and he reiterated that Wednesday, as he readied his team for its preseason opener Friday against the Lions.

"He's progressing, but we really thought it would be touch-and-go up to this point," Tomlin said. "The (ankle) surgery was not a routine cleanup, so we knew it would be a significant amount of time."

Green's agent, Adisa Bakari, however, said Green's "ankle is fine," on Wednesday night. Bakara would not comment on what is ultimately keeping Green sidelined, and his client reportedly has been seen running sprints at St. Vincent's College, while his teammates practice.

Green complained of headaches after suffering two concussions in two weeks last September with the Chargers, according to a report in the San Diego Union-Tribune. Those were his second and third concussions in less than one calendar year. Green sat out one game last season due to a concussion, while ankle issues sidelined him for two others. A concussion also caused Green to miss one game during the 2014 season.

Green was expected to help alleviate the hole left at tight end after the retirement of Heath Miller. It was Miller who was Ben Roethlisberger's security blanket, one of his most dependable targets -- and blockers -- for 11 seasons. Miller missed only eight games in those 11 years, and retired as the Steelers' tight end with the most all-time receiving yards, receptions and touchdowns.
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Post by Legacy User » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:22 am

we just seem snake bit on guys!! sucks!

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Post by Jobu » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:39 am

bam morris wrote:we just seem snake bit on guys!! sucks!

If you ask me, this particular situation isn't snake bit, it's not doing your homework.
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Post by Suwanee88 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:15 am

If he retires or not, it comes down to Ben. It's time to win the big games. He got back on course last year now he needs to improve on that and win the ring. Brady has won with less. Big test for Ben and our defense.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:07 am

He's not going to retire, he's more likely to start practicing this weekend.

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Post by Old School Steeler » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:36 am

Unless you've got inside knowledge all you can do is wait & see how this plays out. There is a lot of intrigue with this guy. LG was supposed to be the guy Ben needs to work the middle of the field. If he flames out we'll recover the money, can't recover the TE we might have drafted.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:29 am

My worry prediction about Green right on money again
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:21 am

I think the thing that's really missed with this whole scenario is the idea that Green did not disclose this information during the wooing process. Sure it's tragic Green has a health issue and my sympathies are with him. Hiding an existing health concern from your employer is a bit like committing fraud. Regardless of how much "homework" the Steelers medical staff did/do headaches can not be discovered without the individual admitting to them. JMO

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Post by R_S » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:12 pm

you gotta make a move or a trade for a vet TE if this plays out the way it's sounding.

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Post by Jobu » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:39 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:I think the thing that's really missed with this whole scenario is the idea that Green did not disclose this information during the wooing process. Sure it's tragic Green has a health issue and my sympathies are with him. Hiding an existing health concern from your employer is a bit like committing fraud. Regardless of how much "homework" the Steelers medical staff did/do headaches can not be discovered without the individual admitting to them. JMO

So you're thinking that not only did he lie to the Steelers, he lied to everyone around and involved with him? Somehow, I doubt it.
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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:45 pm

Report: Green didn’t tell Steelers about headaches
Posted by Mike Florio on August 12, 2016, 5:55 AM EDT

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Pittsburgh Steelers tight end Jesse James (81) talks with fellow tight end Ladarius Green (80) during a practice at the NFL football team's training camp in Latrobe, Pa., on Saturday, July 30, 2016. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar) AP
The Ladarius Green mystery finally has been solved. However, the news that Green’s absence from practice arises not from January ankle surgery but from headaches tracing to a pair of September concussions creates plenty of other questions — and some of the answers are emerging.

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Green didn’t disclose the headaches to the Steelers when he signed a four-year, $20 million contract in the offseason. The contract included a $4.75 million signing bonus. This implies that Green was indeed having issues with headaches at the time he was signed.

Per Bouchette, Green’s absence from the offseason program and training camp relates solely to the headaches and not to the ankle.

Amid chatter that Green may retire (which would require him to return the full $4.75 million bonus) is the reality (and also chatter) that the Steelers could cut him and attempt to recoup the bonus money. This depends on whether and to what extent the Steelers would be able to prove that Green was dealing with headaches at the time he was signed and didn’t tell the Steelers. That depends on what he has said to the team’s trainers and/or doctors over the past several months.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/12/report-green-didnt-tell-steelers-about-headaches/
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Post by K_C_ » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:16 pm

I'm on the phone to Heath RIGHT NOW begging him to play one last year.
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Post by Legacy User » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:24 pm

What a f'ing disaster. Bryant, Bell and now Green. We will not face a tougher opponent than ourselves this season.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:39 pm

This Green story is mostly bullshit.

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:14 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:This Green story is mostly bullshit.


Why would you take away people's reason to overreact to something before the facts are presented? You're a monster. :lol:

Offseason wouldnt be the same without "factish speculation"

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:19 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:This Green story is mostly bullshit.


So you think he'll be fine and will be on the field opening day?
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Post by Legacy User » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:21 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:This Green story is mostly bullshit.


What makes you say that? His concussions history is well documented with 3 occurring in a 10 month span. Players are able to run at half-speed with concussion-like symptoms, hell, Jahvid Best is going to be competing in the Olympics, but like Green, he had persistant headaches that would not subside. At this point, the chance of Green playing and the chance of him getting cut are probably about equal.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:44 pm

KC wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:This Green story is mostly bullshit.


So you think he'll be fine and will be on the field opening day?

I believe he'll be cleared to practice this week. There's no way a guy who's in concussion protocol is working as hard as he was working while on PUP, for starters.

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Post by R_S » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:30 pm

I hope you're right B2B. But where there's smoke there is usually fire.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:49 pm

Green has several million reasons to attempt practice. I think if he retires because of a condition he failed to disclose, he'll lose some if not all of his signing bonus.

Again, if he had concerns about a long-term concussion problem, there's no way he's running routes and doing field work.

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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:59 pm

His first name should have been a warning sign!
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