2. 32 Joey Porter Jr. CB

[Professor Half Wit]

He has NO ball hawking skillz. He is horrible at tracking a ball in flight. Watch Gonzalez then watch JPJ. Tell me there isn't a big difference.

Ball hawking isn't everthing brother. Ike was ellte. Very elite. I don't care about interceptions if they don't throw to yur side. I am not even comparing JPJ to to Ike, but if he is then we just won big time

Ok answer me this. If you have Ike on one side and Prime Time/Rod Woodson on the other, who do you think teams will test/ throw at. Exactly

Since Ike routinely shut down WR1s, I’d say that team choosing between Woodson and Ike would be fucked.

[Steelraptor]

He has NO ball hawking skillz. He is horrible at tracking a ball in flight. Watch Gonzalez then watch JPJ. Tell me there isn't a big difference.

Ball hawking isn't everthing brother. Ike was ellte. Very elite. I don't care about interceptions if they don't throw to yur side. I am not even comparing JPJ to to Ike, but if he is then we just won big time

Ok answer me this. If you have Ike on one side and Prime Time/Rod Woodson on the other, who do you think teams will test/ throw at. Exactly

In your seceario they wouldn't throw to either, just go down the seam to the tight end. Your scenario is having 2 all pros on the outside. Ain't going to happen bro. Ike was a stud, period. We under evaluate him because he had hands of stone, but he shut them all down. With Minkah in the backfield alloed to roam, I can't wait!!

[Orlaco]

You guys get so worked up…

I have an old ‘authentic’ Porter jersey that I can break-out again (even if number is wrong).

Fuck it…that’s a good thing.

[Jobu]

AZ traded 33 and 81
For 41 and 72.

Crazy to move back 8 spots and only go from 81 to 72

They also got a 2024 3rd.

[Steelperch]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

[gojira5150]

Ball hawking isn't everthing brother. Ike was ellte. Very elite. I don't care about interceptions if they don't throw to yur side. I am not even comparing JPJ to to Ike, but if he is then we just won big time

Ok answer me this. If you have Ike on one side and Prime Time/Rod Woodson on the other, who do you think teams will test/ throw at. Exactly

In your seceario they wouldn't throw to either, just go down the seam to the tight end. Your scenario is having 2 all pros on the outside. Ain't going to happen bro. Ike was a stud, period. We under evaluate him because he had hands of stone, but he shut them all down. With Minkah in the backfield alloed to roam, I can't wait!!

Don't get me wrong, I loved Ike. When he picked off Jake the flake Plummer to end the half of the AFCC, I was ecstatic. I have nothing against Ike. All I was trying to point out is who would teams avoid throwing at, a CB with hands who can Pick 6 them, or a CB who had suspect hands. If Ike had hands, he'd be one of the greatest CB's ever.
With the way offenses are now with these crazy QB's and WR's combos (especially in the AFC), I want a Ball Hawking CB.

[Steeldrama]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Who‘s the you that wants a blocking TE?

Corner just one of many needs
They crossed it off the list

Only two viable picks left

[gojira5150]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

[JJT07]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

Is this true? I thought I heard/read that he is possibly being overhyped because of what he did against Harrison Jr. (Ie ahut him down).

[Steelraptor]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

But you wanted Gonzalez in the first round. Was he able to be that shut down corner you wanted? It's all such a crap shoot man. You don't get your choice so every choice after that sucks? From one veteran to another, I salute you brother, hope you are doing well.

[gojira5150]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

But you wanted Gonzalez in the first round. Was he able to be that shut down corner you wanted? It's all such a crap shoot man. You don't get your choice so every choice after that sucks? From one veteran to another, I salute you brother, hope you are doing well.

I'm doing great Bro, about to take my lil one to her softball game. You are correct, draft is a crap shoot. I salute as well. Thx for your Service.

[Steelperch]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

You didn’t watch that Ohio State game if that is your claim. Almost none of that yardage was on Porter. Porter led all power 5 corners in break up percentage and allowed under 100 yards all season in man coverage. He’s been a shut down guy at PSU for years.

And to answer your other question, you’re not winning shoot outs against good teams with Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada. Defense is your only solution or blow everything up and start over.

[Steelraptor]

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

But you wanted Gonzalez in the first round. Was he able to be that shut down corner you wanted? It's all such a crap shoot man. You don't get your choice so every choice after that sucks? From one veteran to another, I salute you brother, hope you are doing well.

I'm doing great Bro, about to take my lil one to her softball game. You are correct, draft is a crap shoot. I salute as well. Thx for your Service.

Awesome man!! Thank you too. Hope your kid is happy playing sports. It's the one thing I remember from child hood. Not the sport but my mom and dad being there. Enjoy while you can and try to look at the steelers as a hobby?

[gojira5150]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

You didn’t watch that Ohio State game if that is your claim. Almost none of that yardage was on Porter. Porter led all power 5 corners in break up percentage and allowed under 100 yards all season in man coverage. He’s been a shut down guy at PSU for years.

And to answer your other question, you’re not winning shoot outs against good teams with Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada. Defense is your only solution or blow everything up and start over.

You maybe right Bro. I don't watch BIG 10 games. Thing is we've seen this movie before. 3 yards and cloud of dust. Those Cowher Defenses were light years better than what we have now, and they couldn't get the job done when the offense was shut down against play-off defenses.

I think if they would have loaded up on offensive talent, we would have had a better chance against the top AFC teams. I guess we will see. I'm not overly optimistic.

[gojira5150]

But you wanted Gonzalez in the first round. Was he able to be that shut down corner you wanted? It's all such a crap shoot man. You don't get your choice so every choice after that sucks? From one veteran to another, I salute you brother, hope you are doing well.

I'm doing great Bro, about to take my lil one to her softball game. You are correct, draft is a crap shoot. I salute as well. Thx for your Service.

Awesome man!! Thank you too. Hope your kid is happy playing sports. It's the one thing I remember from child hood. Not the sport but my mom and dad being there. Enjoy while you can and try to look at the steelers as a hobby?

Thx Bro. She loves softball as well. Steelers are a hobby. I stopped getting worked up about them years ago. I usually don't catch games on Sundays as we are always busy doing family stuff.

[Charles Demarr]

Damn…

Some of you guys need a drink. The Steelers are having a fantastic draft. Strengthening the trenches and getting the CB we all thought they would podium sprint for in round 1 with the Claypool pick.

It could be a whole lot worse.

[blu]

I wasn’t really crazy about the thought at drafting him at 1.17, but I’ll take him at 2.1 all day long.

Funny, I mentioned something similar last week & was ridiculed that there was no way JPJr would still be there at 32.

[rooneytunes]

People hated the Troy Polamalu pick

[Pabst]

So you want a tackle eligible blocking TE over a shut down 6’2 corner in a division with Burrow, Watson and Jackson and a conference with Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence etc…. Fucking madness.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

So I just watched the highlights from the OSU Penn State game and nearly all of Harrison's catches came against whoever #4 was (not JPJ).

[drmalba]

Just curious. Do any of you whining about bloodline picks remember the kind of player Joey Porter was?

[Valentino_Blake]

I just find it amusing that people are framing this as an Artie Burns-style reach when the guy was universally considered a top 15-20 prospect. Like, yeah, nepotism probably made it a lock, but if he can play who gives a shit? Our best current player is a nepo baby.

[Flanker]

As a PSU fan that watched every game of his career I like the pick... PI calls were obviously his main problem,

[RemoAZ]

Biggest take-away from me on Porter: It means I'm fucking old. I remember his dad getting drafted and being a bad ass for years and that was after the playing days of my favorite Steeler of all time.

And don't laugh. A lot of you are right there with me!

[jewelsongs]

Biggest take-away from me on Porter: It means I'm fucking old. I remember his dad getting drafted and being a bad ass for years and that was after the playing days of my favorite Steeler of all time.

And don't laugh. A lot of you are right there with me!

I remember Andy Russell being drafted.

[gojira5150]

Just curious. Do any of you whining about bloodline picks remember the kind of player Joey Porter was?

Uh Yeah. Doesn't mean his kid will be the same player. That night Jpeezy had against the Pats was Amazing.
Him calling out the Punk Ass Ratbirds was Badass

[gojira5150]

People hated the Troy Polamalu pick

I didn't. I Loved the pick as I live in So Cal and watch USC games. I was ecstatic

[Smashmouth21]

Tomlin thinking about trading 2.32



Tomlin getting JPJ

[COR-TEN]

We already know the bloodline….

This kid has the opportunity to improve at his game and become something special.

With Fitzpatrick and Peterson as experienced players as on the field coaches….win,win.

I really don’t see the hate for a rookie that hasn’t played a down in the nfl yet.

Patience…..

Patience? On this board?

[franco32]

I really liked Gonzalez, but JPJ brings something difference. He is physical as hell and has those freakish long arms. Makes a WR's job much more difficult. He disrupts timing, gets in people's faces, and neutralizes people. Plays the run at an elite level on top of it.

Do I wish he had better ball skills? Sure. But he has the ability to get better there. I also have no doubt he'll adapt lessen PI issues.

JPJ IMO becomes and immediate starter.

[daikyu]

This is message board fandom in a nutshell. Screaming to the high heavens about how you hate the pick but you did not watch any of his games. Your analysis is brilliant.

Shutdown Corner? Really. He sure as hell didn't shut down Harrison Jr who went for 185. How the hell are we gonna score enough points to keep up with the QB's you named. I believe DW would help the Offense more than JPJ will help the D. DW is an outlier talent who creates major match-up problems.

You didn’t watch that Ohio State game if that is your claim. Almost none of that yardage was on Porter. Porter led all power 5 corners in break up percentage and allowed under 100 yards all season in man coverage. He’s been a shut down guy at PSU for years.

And to answer your other question, you’re not winning shoot outs against good teams with Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada. Defense is your only solution or blow everything up and start over.

You maybe right Bro. I don't watch BIG 10 games. Thing is we've seen this movie before. 3 yards and cloud of dust. Those Cowher Defenses were light years better than what we have now, and they couldn't get the job done when the offense was shut down against play-off defenses.

I think if they would have loaded up on offensive talent, we would have had a better chance against the top AFC teams. I guess we will see. I'm not overly optimistic.