KP8 Crow

[DP39]

I mean, I think at this point the board collectively just has to realize that KC is in La-La Land when it comes to Pickett. You can't reach him with reasoning/logic, stats, or whatever else you want to come up with. He's dug in like the Japanese at Okinawa. I don't know if there's any coming back. It makes the board entertaining and generates posts, but it seems kind of pointless to argue with him on Pickett until the day Pickett is benched or moves on or whatever.

It's taken you this long to figure that out about him? He's shown you this for years. It's why I rarely interact with him -- my time is more valuable than that.

New Year’s resolution….

Right on.

Although....

Never leave that till tomorrow which you can do today.

- Benjamin Franklin

[Professor Half Wit]

Hey, if we’re being honest, having our account deleted would be a good. All our time spent on this site is time wasted in a very short life.

Isn’t that the truth. Every night I tell myself I’m going to spend less time on this site and do more constructive things. Well, you see where I am…

Should we start a recovery group?

Fury Users Anonymous

My name’s Half Wit and I have a Steelers posting problem.

“Hi Half Wit!”

[Smashmouth21]

Hey, if we’re being honest, having our account deleted would be a good. All our time spent on this site is time wasted in a very short life.

Isn’t that the truth. Every night I tell myself I’m going to spend less time on this site and do more constructive things. Well, you see where I am…

Should we start a recovery group?

Fury Users Anonymous

My name’s Half Wit and I have a Steelers posting problem.

“Hi Half Wit!”

You bastards sucked me back in after I had done such a good job at staying off this Board. Does that mean I relapsed?

[Jobu]

Hey, if we’re being honest, having our account deleted would be a good. All our time spent on this site is time wasted in a very short life.

Isn’t that the truth. Every night I tell myself I’m going to spend less time on this site and do more constructive things. Well, you see where I am…

Should we start a recovery group?

Fury Users Anonymous

My name’s Half Wit and I have a Steelers posting problem.

“Hi Half Wit!”

That might work…

[Jobu]

Isn’t that the truth. Every night I tell myself I’m going to spend less time on this site and do more constructive things. Well, you see where I am…

Should we start a recovery group?

Fury Users Anonymous

My name’s Half Wit and I have a Steelers posting problem.

“Hi Half Wit!”

You bastards sucked me back in after I had done such a good job at staying off this Board. Does that mean I relapsed?

Yes. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

[Deebo]

Should we start a recovery group?

Fury Users Anonymous

My name’s Half Wit and I have a Steelers posting problem.

“Hi Half Wit!”

You bastards sucked me back in after I had done such a good job at staying off this Board. Does that mean I relapsed?

Yes. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

I can quit anytime I want.

I just don't want to....

[jewelsongs]

If everyone here would stop being critical of each other and of Tomlin, that would cut the traffic by 70%

[Jobu]

You bastards sucked me back in after I had done such a good job at staying off this Board. Does that mean I relapsed?

Yes. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

I can quit anytime I want.

I just don't want to....

Oh I get what you’re saying. Me too!

[Professor Half Wit]

You bastards sucked me back in after I had done such a good job at staying off this Board. Does that mean I relapsed?

Yes. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

I can quit anytime I want.

I just don't want to....

I’m a functional poster. A few posts in the morning, at lunch, before leaving work. Not preventing me from getting my job done.

I’m fine!

[XPGH]

https://youtu.be/8Bzbq06soi0

[Steelperch]

Awww, he really wanted to pound his chest over some meaningless preseason drives. Sorry I don’t sign in during the off-season. Go right ahead, I’m here to listen. How about we do a bet on Pickett, SteelerFury retirement match. If he finishes top 15 in TD passes or QB rating I’ll delete my account. If he doesn’t, you do.

How’s that bet looking right about now?

Oh wait, I never even saw you make this post and if you did, I forgot about it.

....probably because you were missing the entire preseason.

You are so bitter you didn’t get to chest pound at me over Kenny Pickett tossing a couple TD passes against 3rd string grocery baggers playing vanilla defenses in the preseason . Too bad I’ll be on vacation most of next preseason as well. I’ll be here for the regular season where we both know he can’t compete.

That post just goes to show my conviction that Pickett doesn’t have the skills to be an above average NFL QB and your cubicle Ken love is 99% schtick. You saw it, and no way you’d agree to it because deep down you know you’re riding a glue horse. If you want to take it, I’ll even back it down to top 20 in passing TDs or QB rating. Matt Canada is out of the way now. What’s wrong, don’t believe KP8 is great?

[K_C_]

Too bad I’ll be on vacation most of next preseason as well.

What city will you be visiting next preseason?

[K_C_]

How’s that bet looking right about now?

Oh wait, I never even saw you make this post and if you did, I forgot about it.

....probably because you were missing the entire preseason.

You are so bitter you didn’t get to chest pound at me over Kenny Pickett tossing a couple TD passes against 3rd string grocery baggers playing vanilla defenses in the preseason . Too bad I’ll be on vacation most of next preseason as well. I’ll be here for the regular season where we both know he can’t compete.

That post just goes to show my conviction that Pickett doesn’t have the skills to be an above average NFL QB and your cubicle Ken love is 99% schtick. You saw it, and no way you’d agree to it because deep down you know you’re riding a glue horse. If you want to take it, I’ll even back it down to top 20 in passing TDs or QB rating. Matt Canada is out of the way now. What’s wrong, don’t believe KP8 is great?

You put 100% of the blame on the QB for the offense sucking and that's your first mistake. That's how a 12 year old football fan thinks.

I get it, you were going to hate whoever replaced Ben as the Steelers QB, because that's what the fangirl inside of you had to do.....but......

Matt Canada was fired for a reason. Tomlin should be next, but he won't be. This offense is a failure at all levels.

Let me emphasize again, this what has taken place offensively is a failure at every level.

With Canada gone, sure the pressure is now on Kenny Pickett, as it should be.....but a lot more pressure should be on Mike Tomlin. The offense Canada ran was the exact offense that Mike Tomlin wanted him to run.

The offensive line was an embarrassment on Sunday, as was the play calling. Najee Harris killed how many drives with no gains or losing yardage on first downs? Why in the fuck did he play so much? Diontae Johnson had miscommunication issues with Ben Roethlisberger and those continue with Kenny Pickett. As much as you can't wait for Pickett to be gone, let me guarantee you that I want Diontae Johnson gone more. Zero TE's on this roster worth a shit.

The good news is we're going to get resolution down the stretch on several fronts.

Pickett, Harris, Johnson......maybe even Tomlin.

Hopefully several Steelers, players AND COACHES have been put on notice.

[Steelperch]

Oh wait, I never even saw you make this post and if you did, I forgot about it.

....probably because you were missing the entire preseason.

You are so bitter you didn’t get to chest pound at me over Kenny Pickett tossing a couple TD passes against 3rd string grocery baggers playing vanilla defenses in the preseason . Too bad I’ll be on vacation most of next preseason as well. I’ll be here for the regular season where we both know he can’t compete.

That post just goes to show my conviction that Pickett doesn’t have the skills to be an above average NFL QB and your cubicle Ken love is 99% schtick. You saw it, and no way you’d agree to it because deep down you know you’re riding a glue horse. If you want to take it, I’ll even back it down to top 20 in passing TDs or QB rating. Matt Canada is out of the way now. What’s wrong, don’t believe KP8 is great?

You put 100% of the blame on the QB for the offense sucking and that's your first mistake. That's how a 12 year old football fan thinks.

I get it, you were going to hate whoever replaced Ben as the Steelers QB, because that's what the fangirl inside of you had to do.....but......

Matt Canada was fired for a reason. Tomlin should be next, but he won't be. This offense is a failure at all levels.

Let me emphasize again, this what has taken place offensively is a failure at every level.

With Canada gone, sure the pressure is now on Kenny Pickett, as it should be.....but a lot more pressure should be on Mike Tomlin. The offense Canada ran was the exact offense that Mike Tomlin wanted him to run.

The offensive line was an embarrassment on Sunday, as was the play calling. Najee Harris killed how many drives with no gains or losing yardage on first downs? Why in the fuck did he play so much? Diontae Johnson had miscommunication issues with Ben Roethlisberger and those continue with Kenny Pickett. As much as you can't wait for Pickett to be gone, let me guarantee you that I want Diontae Johnson gone more. Zero TE's on this roster worth a shit.

The good news is we're going to get resolution down the stretch on several fronts.

Pickett, Harris, Johnson......maybe even Tomlin.

Hopefully several Steelers, players AND COACHES have been put on notice.

That’s 100% false. I’ve repeatedly said Matt Canada is the biggest problem with the offense. I can judge Pickett’s flaws on their own merit. Pickets flaws have zero to do with Canada or Ben. This is how you tend to argue though, through distortions.

[955876]

It's taken you this long to figure that out about him? He's shown you this for years. It's why I rarely interact with him -- my time is more valuable than that.

New Year’s resolution….

Right on.

Although....

Never leave that till tomorrow which you can do today.

- Benjamin Franklin

Ahh even better.

[K_C_]

You are so bitter you didn’t get to chest pound at me over Kenny Pickett tossing a couple TD passes against 3rd string grocery baggers playing vanilla defenses in the preseason . Too bad I’ll be on vacation most of next preseason as well. I’ll be here for the regular season where we both know he can’t compete.

That post just goes to show my conviction that Pickett doesn’t have the skills to be an above average NFL QB and your cubicle Ken love is 99% schtick. You saw it, and no way you’d agree to it because deep down you know you’re riding a glue horse. If you want to take it, I’ll even back it down to top 20 in passing TDs or QB rating. Matt Canada is out of the way now. What’s wrong, don’t believe KP8 is great?

You put 100% of the blame on the QB for the offense sucking and that's your first mistake. That's how a 12 year old football fan thinks.

I get it, you were going to hate whoever replaced Ben as the Steelers QB, because that's what the fangirl inside of you had to do.....but......

Matt Canada was fired for a reason. Tomlin should be next, but he won't be. This offense is a failure at all levels.

Let me emphasize again, this what has taken place offensively is a failure at every level.

With Canada gone, sure the pressure is now on Kenny Pickett, as it should be.....but a lot more pressure should be on Mike Tomlin. The offense Canada ran was the exact offense that Mike Tomlin wanted him to run.

The offensive line was an embarrassment on Sunday, as was the play calling. Najee Harris killed how many drives with no gains or losing yardage on first downs? Why in the fuck did he play so much? Diontae Johnson had miscommunication issues with Ben Roethlisberger and those continue with Kenny Pickett. As much as you can't wait for Pickett to be gone, let me guarantee you that I want Diontae Johnson gone more. Zero TE's on this roster worth a shit.

The good news is we're going to get resolution down the stretch on several fronts.

Pickett, Harris, Johnson......maybe even Tomlin.

Hopefully several Steelers, players AND COACHES have been put on notice.

That’s 100% false. I’ve repeatedly said Matt Canada is the biggest problem with the offense. I can judge Pickett’s flaws on their own merit. Pickets flaws have zero to do with Canada or Ben. This is how you tend to argue though, through distortions.

Actually, as shown by the game splits (especially by quarter) Ben and Kenny weren't all that different under Canada.

Not all that different at all.

Sure, Ben was at the very end of his career but again, under Canada it was reported that Ben wasn't allowed to audible. That, to my knowledge, was never proven incorrect.

......and to say Pickett's problems aren't tied to the hip with Matt Canada's it utterly ridiculous.

His play calling has fucked this team and Pickett time and time again. His ultra conservative approach (which I would assume came from Tomlin but Canada signed off on it) has removed Pickett's nutsack.

Whether people liked Pickett or not last year, nobody questioned his toughness. Kenny has been playing with bad ribs, so I'm not talking physical toughness.

....but folks aren't seeing Pickett try to push the ball downfield anymore if it's not immediately wide open. Pickett goes to his hot read FAR TOO QUICKLY because in Mike Tomlin/Matt Canada's offense, QB's aren't supposed to make mistakes. Pickett is scared shitless of making mistakes. Canada and Tomlin have removed any moxie the kid had when he arrived in Pittsburgh. Removed every bit of his fire. When is the last time you saw Kenny show any fire?

Now we're going to find out if he can get it back.

If I'm the new OC (or possibly OC's) the first thing I work on with Pickett is saying; "FUCK IT" and not being afraid to throw an INT. Not being afraid to make a mistake.

[jewelsongs]

Someone here made a really perceptive post about Trubisky and Kenny. They said Trubisky forces the ball in to receivers who are covered and gets an interception. Kenny takes the sack because the receivers are covered. I am certain that both statements are not always true, but I do believe we have a problem with receivers getting open. I blame Canada for this. Our offense was so predictable that defenders knew what was coming. I am interested to see what happens now.

[K_C_]

Someone here made a really perceptive post about Trubisky and Kenny. They said Trubisky forces the ball in to receivers who are covered and gets an interception. Kenny takes the sack because the receivers are covered. I am certain that both statements are not always true, but I do believe we have a problem with receivers getting open. I blame Canada for this. Our offense was so predictable that defenders knew what was coming. I am interested to see what happens now.

There is so much wrong with this offense, even firing an imbecile like Canada won't fix it if the players don't start playing better. Every one of them needs to improve, significantly, except Jaylen Warren who is playing his ass off.

But some of the stuff I read online from fans of other teams just saddens me. Reading quotes from opposing players saying that they more often than not, know what play the Steelers offense is running in advance, because they run the same plays over and over and over.

I mean....can you imagine how fucking disheartening it is to be a player on this offense? I get pissed off at the players plenty, but imagine Pickens looking across the line of scrimmage at a corner who probably knows what route you're running. Or Harris who is about to take a hand off and you can clearly see the defense KNOWS a run is coming.

I sure hope these new OC's can make a difference but holy shit do they have a lot of work to do in a very short amount of time.

[PennyBacker]

I was one of the guys who didn’t think KP was gonna be anything special. Middling at most I thought. Wasted first round choice in my opinion back then. Now? After seeing the work KP put in during the offseason? Ok I’m onboard. I think I was wrong about the young man! Watching him lead long drives the second half of the season was when I started to change my mind. His throws have some zip now and he’s bulked up a little to absorb nfl hits. I really like what I’ve seen from him so far. It appears as if he just might have that “it” factor.

There - Im officially on the KP8 bandwagon.

Responding to the OP, the preseason has a tendency to be a mirage. In hindsight, there was quite a bit that was still lacking offensively.

Since the conclusion of the preseason, we've seen the offensive line undergo development in its pass blocking, and Pickett work to get comfortable reading the field. Back in September, both sides had strides to make. Now in November, it’s likely we’ll get a chance to see the progress, as well as the next phase of development.

I have enjoyed Pittsburgh’s gameplan up to this point, because it’s produced winning football. The strength of this team is the dominant defense, not its young, inexperienced offense.

Kenny’s played exactly how he should have up until now. Better to take the conservative approach of knowing exactly what’s on the other end of a pass, rather than force the ball where it doesn’t have to go, or try to stand in and continue to survey. More times than not, hanging in would have led to a sack or a poor decision to throw the ball.

Diontae is healthy now, Freiermuth is healthy. Pickens has more experience, Warren is more intergraded, as well. Most importantly, the OL looks to have its starting 5 stabilized. The former are positives to see now that weren’t completely visible the first few games of the regular season. Shoot, even some of the grumblers have gotten to witness Matt Canada get taken out behind the barn. This team is sitting at 6-4. Let’s go Steelers!

[955876]

You put 100% of the blame on the QB for the offense sucking and that's your first mistake. That's how a 12 year old football fan thinks.

I get it, you were going to hate whoever replaced Ben as the Steelers QB, because that's what the fangirl inside of you had to do.....but......

Matt Canada was fired for a reason. Tomlin should be next, but he won't be. This offense is a failure at all levels.

Let me emphasize again, this what has taken place offensively is a failure at every level.

With Canada gone, sure the pressure is now on Kenny Pickett, as it should be.....but a lot more pressure should be on Mike Tomlin. The offense Canada ran was the exact offense that Mike Tomlin wanted him to run.

The offensive line was an embarrassment on Sunday, as was the play calling. Najee Harris killed how many drives with no gains or losing yardage on first downs? Why in the fuck did he play so much? Diontae Johnson had miscommunication issues with Ben Roethlisberger and those continue with Kenny Pickett. As much as you can't wait for Pickett to be gone, let me guarantee you that I want Diontae Johnson gone more. Zero TE's on this roster worth a shit.

The good news is we're going to get resolution down the stretch on several fronts.

Pickett, Harris, Johnson......maybe even Tomlin.

Hopefully several Steelers, players AND COACHES have been put on notice.

That’s 100% false. I’ve repeatedly said Matt Canada is the biggest problem with the offense. I can judge Pickett’s flaws on their own merit. Pickets flaws have zero to do with Canada or Ben. This is how you tend to argue though, through distortions.

Actually, as shown by the game splits (especially by quarter) Ben and Kenny weren't all that different under Canada.

Not all that different at all.

Sure, Ben was at the very end of his career but again, under Canada it was reported that Ben wasn't allowed to audible. That, to my knowledge, was never proven incorrect.

......and to say Pickett's problems aren't tied to the hip with Matt Canada's it utterly ridiculous.

His play calling has fucked this team and Pickett time and time again. His ultra conservative approach (which I would assume came from Tomlin but Canada signed off on it) has removed Pickett's nutsack.

Whether people liked Pickett or not last year, nobody questioned his toughness. Kenny has been playing with bad ribs, so I'm not talking physical toughness.

....but folks aren't seeing Pickett try to push the ball downfield anymore if it's not immediately wide open. Pickett goes to his hot read FAR TOO QUICKLY because in Mike Tomlin/Matt Canada's offense, QB's aren't supposed to make mistakes. Pickett is scared shitless of making mistakes. Canada and Tomlin have removed any moxie the kid had when he arrived in Pittsburgh. Removed every bit of his fire. When is the last time you saw Kenny show any fire?

Now we're going to find out if he can get it back.

If I'm the new OC (or possibly OC's) the first thing I work on with Pickett is saying; "FUCK IT" and not being afraid to throw an INT. Not being afraid to make a mistake.

Maybe the coaches realized Kenny’s mind will make promises his pop-gun arm can’t keep.

Something I’ve noticed about him is that to throw a good ball everything needs to be just right.

Clean pocket. Plenty of time. Able to step into his throw.

That isn’t the NFL though. QBs worthy of being taken in the 1st round are able to make off platform throws.

That seems to be where Pickett really struggles. That doesn’t mean he can’t get better but guys like that are what they are. Later round picks that end up as career back-ups.

Not 1st round “franchise QBs”. It’s becoming more and more apparent we reached big time on this guy. PR before playoffs should be the new team mantra.

Hopefully things change for the better and he elevates to medicore.

[W&M_Steeler]

So, who had "fewer TD passes for the season than Joe Flacco and getting benched for Mason Rudolph to start a must-win week 17 game" in their pre-season KP8 predictions

I'm not calling you out, Works at a Bank (there are many wild takes in the first few pages of this thread), but I'm bumping this thread because it was a perfect example of the irrational pre-season overhype for this team and KP8 that was everywhere. Hopefully next season we (including the coaching staff) remember the pre-season is basically meaningless and there's no such thing as "pre-season mojo."

[PennyBacker]

I want Pittsburgh to win tomorrow above all else, but am not sold that Mason will be superior to KP if/when the opposing defensive line begins to wreak havoc as it has done in many of the other QBs' starts this season.

Rudolph was a fun story last week, and did enough last week to move himself ahead of Trubisky on the depth chart, but I'll stay in the 'KP8 as the starting QB' club for now.

[franco32]

I never expected him to be elite, but I did expect him to be better than he's shown. I was hoping for a Jim McMahon+ at best. At times, you can see glimpses of something here and there. The Cincy game was a good example, but it's too few and far between.

I think the mistake many of us made was to think his processing would get better from year 1 to year 2. It didn't. It seemed to get worse for some reason. Is it coaching? Is it just that Kenny isn't that good at processing? Both? Who knows. All I know is that when teams started really hitting him with zone, he really struggled and looked indecisive and confused. He's been especially poor in the red zone when teams pack in the zones.

[zeke5123]

I never expected him to be elite, but I did expect him to be better than he's shown. I was hoping for a Jim McMahon+ at best. At times, you can see glimpses of something here and there. The Cincy game was a good example, but it's too few and far between.

I think the mistake many of us made was to think his processing would get better from year 1 to year 2. It didn't. It seemed to get worse for some reason. Is it coaching? Is it just that Kenny isn't that good at processing? Both? Who knows. All I know is that when teams started really hitting him with zone, he really struggled and looked indecisive and confused. He's been especially poor in the red zone when teams pack in the zones.

It isn’t just processing but also accuracy. He misses 3-4 gimme throws a game.

I don’t think a QB that is below the bar at processing / accuracy with no stand out tool is likely to improve much at 26 years of age. And if he did improve that would almost be worse because he would improve to average meaning we’d be stuck paying premium cash for an average QB which is a team gutting outcome.

[W&M_Steeler]

I never expected him to be elite, but I did expect him to be better than he's shown. I was hoping for a Jim McMahon+ at best. At times, you can see glimpses of something here and there. The Cincy game was a good example, but it's too few and far between.

I think the mistake many of us made was to think his processing would get better from year 1 to year 2. It didn't. It seemed to get worse for some reason. Is it coaching? Is it just that Kenny isn't that good at processing? Both? Who knows. All I know is that when teams started really hitting him with zone, he really struggled and looked indecisive and confused. He's been especially poor in the red zone when teams pack in the zones.

It isn’t just processing but also accuracy. He misses 3-4 gimme throws a game.

I don’t think a QB that is below the bar at processing / accuracy with no stand out tool is likely to improve much at 26 years of age. And if he did improve that would almost be worse because he would improve to average meaning we’d be stuck paying premium cash for an average QB which is a team gutting outcome.

I had low expectations for KP, and he's done even worse than I thought he would. I thought he'd probably a mediocre to below average starter; I didn't think he be bottom of the barrel, worse than back-up level failure of a QB and a bust of a 1st round pick. Even his allegedly "good" games post-Canada against the Bengals and Cardinals weren't very good, as KP-led offenses can't score. If the 2024 Steelers roll with KP as starter and Faulkner or some other internal hire as OC, then I don't think I'll be able to stomach watching the Steelers next year.

[zeke5123]

I never expected him to be elite, but I did expect him to be better than he's shown. I was hoping for a Jim McMahon+ at best. At times, you can see glimpses of something here and there. The Cincy game was a good example, but it's too few and far between.

I think the mistake many of us made was to think his processing would get better from year 1 to year 2. It didn't. It seemed to get worse for some reason. Is it coaching? Is it just that Kenny isn't that good at processing? Both? Who knows. All I know is that when teams started really hitting him with zone, he really struggled and looked indecisive and confused. He's been especially poor in the red zone when teams pack in the zones.

It isn’t just processing but also accuracy. He misses 3-4 gimme throws a game.

I don’t think a QB that is below the bar at processing / accuracy with no stand out tool is likely to improve much at 26 years of age. And if he did improve that would almost be worse because he would improve to average meaning we’d be stuck paying premium cash for an average QB which is a team gutting outcome.

I had low expectations for KP, and he's done even worse than I thought he would. I thought he'd probably a mediocre to below average starter; I didn't think he be bottom of the barrel, worse than back-up level failure of a QB and a bust of a 1st round pick. Even his allegedly "good" games post-Canada against the Bengals and Cardinals weren't very good, as KP-led offenses can't score. If the 2024 Steelers roll with KP as starter and Faulkner or some other internal hire as OC, then I don't think I'll be able to stomach watching the Steelers next year.

And it wasn’t “they moved the ball at will but struggled in the RZ.” The Cards game they moved the ball at a normal pace and struggled in the RZ.

[Orangesteel]

Still waiting for that Burrow-esqe leap. Tough to do when you are wearing a headset and holding a clipboard.

[W&M_Steeler]

Still waiting for that Burrow-esqe leap. Tough to do when you are wearing a headset and holding a clipboard.

At least he looked and acted like a pissy baby in his press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IdjsbKWnk

Limited skills, fragile ego... he doesn't appear to be a franchise QB to me. But what should we have expected from a QB who didn't excel until he was a super senior in college and whose most famous college play was a lame, cheap fake slide?

[955876]

I had low expectations for KP, and he's done even worse than I thought he would.

One typically doesn’t assume a guy is going to have historically bad numbers.

But that is exactly what PR Pickett has out on tape.

It’s a shame because a a stud QB would make all the difference on this team.

Oh well. We still have NHALS to celebrate.

[Orangesteel]

Still waiting for that Burrow-esqe leap. Tough to do when you are wearing a headset and holding a clipboard.

At least he looked and acted like a pissy baby in his press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IdjsbKWnk

Limited skills, fragile ego... he doesn't appear to be a franchise QB to me. But what should we have expected from a QB who didn't excel until he was a super senior in college and whose most famous college play was a lame, cheap fake slide?

That’s a tough spot for him to be in though. I’ve always said that Kenny seems very likable (as opposed to Mahomes or Brady) but that will only get him so far.

Yeah I hadn’t watched that press conference. That’s a really tough spot for him to be in. I dunno, I hate shitting on guys I want to be good. If he was an asshole it would be a lot easier to root against him haha!