Tua Hit

[K_C_]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars.

Holy shit.

He will forego $124 million but holy fuck. I was under the assumption Tua was only going to get maybe half of what he's getting.

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

[.Kodiak]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars..

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

Kind of a no-brainer [no pun intended] decision.

[W&M_Steeler]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars..

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

Kind of a no-brainer [no pun intended] decision.

His pride might not let him. He would catch a huge amount of public heat and negative publicity if he retired and took all that money.

[Jawn]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars..

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

Kind of a no-brainer [no pun intended] decision.

His pride might not let him. He would catch a huge amount of public heat and negative publicity if he retired and took all that money.

If I was him I wouldn't let that bother me one bit. It isn't like he gave up at the first hangnail or something. With the concussions it is like you are risking being the person you are. I would dread that more than having to use a wheelchair or even being totally paralyzed.

[K_C_]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars..

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

Kind of a no-brainer [no pun intended] decision.

His pride might not let him. He would catch a huge amount of public heat and negative publicity if he retired and took all that money.

Dude…..I live in South Florida and some of my best friends are Dolphins fans (I’m having breakfast with a despondent Dolphins fan friend of mine tomorrow morning) and they all 100% want Tua to retire….and they love the guy and have defended him against my incessant attacks for 4 years.

I love Tua the person. He oozes class and gives everything he can when he’s on the field but he’s going to die on the field if he continues playing. Literally no one will blame Tua for what is taking place. He very likely already has permanent brain injuries that are going to show up in very sad ways as he ages.

Tua is a new dad.

It’s his decision but everyone I know is praying he retires and lives the best life he possibly can going forward.

[W&M_Steeler]

Kind of a no-brainer [no pun intended] decision.

His pride might not let him. He would catch a huge amount of public heat and negative publicity if he retired and took all that money.

Dude…..I live in South Florida and some of my best friends are Dolphins fans (I’m having breakfast with a despondent Dolphins fan friend of mine tomorrow morning) and they all 100% want Tua to retire….and they love the guy and have defended him against my incessant attacks for 4 years.

I love Tua the person. He oozes class and gives everything he can when he’s on the field but he’s going to die on the field if he continues playing. Literally no one will blame Tua for what is taking place. He very likely already has permanent brain injuries that are going to show up in very sad ways as he ages.

Tua is a new dad.

It’s his decision but everyone I know is praying he retires and lives the best life he possibly can going forward.

I hope you're right. I would certainly rather see Tua with that money than the owners- and no one put a gun to the owners' heads to make them sign a contract with guaranteed money. Tua's set for life- he should leave while he still can.

[RemoAZ]

I think if he doesn't want to retire, the NFL should force him. He's seriously one hit, and not a big hit from permanent brain damage. That hit last night shouldn't have knocked him out like that. Not only is he obviously concussion prone, he's also just a small guy that shouldn't be running around but how do you turn off that instinct? If he was going to morph into a smart, pocket passer that throws the ball away when there's nothing there it would have happened already.

[Louis Lipps Service]

I think if he doesn't want to retire, the NFL should force him. He's seriously one hit, and not a big hit from permanent brain damage. That hit last night shouldn't have knocked him out like that. Not only is he obviously concussion prone, he's also just a small guy that shouldn't be running around but how do you turn off that instinct? If he was going to morph into a smart, pocket passer that throws the ball away when there's nothing there it would have happened already.

I doubt the Player’s Union would let the NFL do that, which is ironic since they’re supposed to have the best interest of the players in mind.

But I also understand not wanting the precedent of the letting the league tell a player when to quit due to injury.

[cyberlaz]

Speaking of concussions...has anyone noticed now the NFL has neurologist or something like that at games watching players. I think I noticed it in the opening Thursday night game. There was a medical timeout on the field and some player got taken to the tent. Can't remember who but first time I saw that happen.

The announcers said that the player had got up slow and was flagged for checking for concussion.

Is this new this year?

[Jobu]

Speaking of concussions...has anyone noticed now the NFL has neurologist or something like that at games watching players. I think I noticed it in the opening Thursday night game. There was a medical timeout on the field and some player got taken to the tent. Can't remember who but first time I saw that happen.

The announcers said that the player had got up slow and was flagged for checking for concussion.

Is this new this year?

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafe ... oncussions.

The NFL added unaffiliated medical professionals in 2014—each sideline is staffed with an Unaffiliated Neurological Consultant (UNC), who supports the team medical staffs in the identification, screening and diagnosis of in-game concussions.
In 2015, the NFL also authorized booth ATC spotters to stop the game and call a medical timeout—which does not count against either team—if needed to provide a player with immediate medical assistance. Game officials also have the authority to send a player off the field for medical evaluation.
For the 2018 season, a third UNC will monitor the broadcast video and audio feeds of each game, and notify on-field UNCs of possible head, neck or spine injuries.

[Professor Half Wit]

Just as a side note, I read that if Tua retires he'll still receive $167 million dollars.

Holy shit.

He will forego $124 million but holy fuck. I was under the assumption Tua was only going to get maybe half of what he's getting.

Now I'm 100% certain Tua is gonna hang 'em up.

I'd say he's earned it. Man, good luck to this dude as he ages.

[.Kodiak]

I worried concussions were going to force Ben to retire early. He had those 3-4 over the course of a couple of years. Miraculously I think he only had one more several years later.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

That was probably a complex double concussion (again when hit the ground) and a neck injury.

[.Kodiak]

This is why players want guaranteed contracts. Certainly MIA knew the risks when they gave him all that guaranteed money. I'm surprised they didn't incorporate some sore of rolling guarantee, though.

Actually, appears that's exactly what they did. Only $93.2M was fully guaranteed at signing, which seems like a ton but is a little less than 2 years of his average $53M salary. 2026 comp of $54M become fully guaranteed after Mar. 14, 2025.

But there is a total additional $74M guaranteed for injury at signing. I'm not sure retiring due to concussions would qualify if doctors medically clear him to play.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Frankly I like the idea of the employee getting over on the man especially when the man is fat and happy and full of shit.

Miami GM was an idiot for signing any player with his history to a long-term contract with guarantees.

[stillthere]

Been saying it forever and my close Dolphins friends are speechless.

MIAMI WAS DUMBER THAN FUCK TO COMMIT BIG MONEY TO TUA.

Great kid. Fragile as a lamb.

If Fields plays well this week in Denver, the Dolphins might have to offer a #2 pick to the Steelers for Russ....and I'd do that in a second.

Wilson's happy and so are the Steelers.

hmmmm.
they both not coming back next year.
May as well accumulate poker chips while we have the upper hand or ace in the pocket

Miami may be gun shy with Pittsburgh after Minkah didn't produce a top 10 pick

[Ice]

No plans to retire at this point, per Rapaport, but it's early in the process.

[zeke5123]

Frankly I like the idea of the employee getting over on the man especially when the man is fat and happy and full of shit.

Miami GM was an idiot for signing any player with his history to a long-term contract with guarantees.

I wonder if Miami got some of that insured.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

After reading a bit more, it turns out that the did. Premiums will obviously go up the next time.

[K_C_]

No plans to retire at this point, per Rapaport, but it's early in the process.

Gonna be interesting to see if Miami chooses to put him on the field again, whether Tua is “healthy” or not.

[.Kodiak]

After reading a bit more, it turns out that the did. Premiums will obviously go up the next time.

But isn't it still a massive cap hit? The insurance might lessen the cash sting, but don't think it will help their cap.

[zeke5123]

After reading a bit more, it turns out that the did. Premiums will obviously go up the next time.

But isn't it still a massive cap hit? The insurance might lessen the cash sting, but don't think it will help their cap.

Yeah. I don’t think the insurance factors into the cap hit at all. But cash flow sure.

If you didn’t care about winning at all, then it’s ideal. You spend to minimum cap but the actual cash outlay is tiny.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

I think insurance doesn't affect cap hit but does help the bottom line although it doesn't cover all the loss. May have trouble getting an underwriter the next time.

McDaniel's fortune as a coach may decline as rapidly as his fellow Floridian coaches at FSU and UF.

The Dolphins boards are already discussing tanking for Cam Ward.

Tannehill is the obvious short term fix but he will get killed behind that line.

They may be in win now mode but that is delusional behind a bad OL. The last bad OL to win it all was the PS 2008.

[.Kodiak]

I think insurance doesn't affect cap hit but does help the bottom line although it doesn't cover all the loss. May have trouble getting an underwriter the next time.

But you don't know what the premium was - could have been $10M. The available amount of coverage was going to decline each year, I guess in proportion to the guarantees.

People aren't in the business of insuring these unique situations because it isn't profitable - win some, lose some. And there are A LOT of players that had concussion issues at some point in their career that went on to have a full career - not sure any player has ever not eventually been medically cleared to play due to concussions. So this probably looked like a pretty good bet to the insurer.

[.Kodiak]

McDaniel's fortune as a coach may decline as rapidly as his fellow Floridian coaches at FSU and UF.

Would be hilarious if they got Kenny and he put up a pro bowl year!

[Dan Smith--BYU]

I can imagine the premium was very high. More of a hedge than an insurance policy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/do ... r-AA1qA2yj

Kenny would get killed behind that line. Like the end of a South Park episode. You bastards!

[Jobu]

McDaniel's fortune as a coach may decline as rapidly as his fellow Floridian coaches at FSU and UF.

Would be hilarious if they got Kenny and he put up a pro bowl year!

Kenny Pickett…pro bowl! Good one! lol