Imo the draft is clear

[bradshaw2ben]

The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

You’re welcome.

A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.

If we're doing it, hopefully with a trade-down, I have a wish list.

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

[bradshaw2ben]

Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.

They’ll never do it, but adding an elite TE receiver would be extremely useful to a team hellbent on running it.

They should have moved up to take Bowers. He's crazy legit. The O-Lineman we took didn't even see the field this year.

I think there's a TE in this class who is up there with Bowers. Or at least nearly as good. There are some really good TEs.

[bradshaw2ben]

The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

You’re welcome.

A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.

Dude I will bet you a case of whatever beer you want or a very expensive bourbon that they don't take a RB in the first round. Jeanty would be tempting if he were there (he won't be. People see Saquon II with him) but there is absolutely no fucking chance they take a RB in the first round.

George Pickens is a phenomenal player but he's 1) our only dangerous weapon at WR and 2) he's clearly batshit crazy in very likely an AB sort of way.

They will take a WR in the first or second round for a few reasons (I believe that WR will be the first round pick and very possibly, a trade up.) First, they fucked up last April waiting too long to take Roman Wilson in the 3rd. I still have belief Wilson will make a very positive contribution but like Calvin Austin, his rookie year obviously didn't happen. They will not repeat that fuck up again. Secondly, while Pickens is obviously a superstar level player, I'm not sure the Steelers will want to commit 30 + million per year to a guy that is CLEARLY fucked in the head. Even if they do decide to pay Pickens, which is possible, everybody and their mother has seen what our WR corps looks like without Pickens and even with GP on the field, Russ is limited offensively in a way a guy like Joe Burrow isn't. Chase is covered? Fuck it, he'll throw it to Higgins who is nearly as good.

The Steelers need to find their Tee Higgins.....and who knows, if he becomes a free agent I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they try and lock Higgins up. The guy to me that "got away" is Jerry Jeudy. You put Jeudy (who is the type of elite separator and route runner we all wish Diontae Johnson would have been) alongside George Pickens and the Steelers right now might be Super Bowl favorites.

They HAVE TO find Pickens a running mate and I also wouldn't be shocked if they trade Pickens at some point before his contract is up, worried he'll go off the rails.

What are they currently? Running the ball 2nd most int he NFL? If you want to play that way, you have multiple studs at RB + more OL investment. The main trait they're looking for in WRs is ability to block.

[anpsteel]

I haven't started youtube scouting yet, lol, but the needs are

replace tomlin, or tell him he can't interject his stupidity upon the coordinators.

New defensive scheme.

Offensive scheme that doesn't involve doing exactly what the opponent expects.

Draft:
DL (Need someone to replace Ogunjobi and I doubt you can count on Cam having another year like this)
RB nothing needs to be said
CB (Donte Jackson has been good, but need a developmental player, and I don't trust Trice to stay healthy)
FS Need a play maker (I'm not extending Minkah at the $$$ he's going to want)
ILB is always a need, but I think they are okay, at least for next season.

Free Agency
Outside WR (Do not need another slot receiver)
Need depth across the OLine. Depends upon what happens w/ Moore and Semalu

They are going to be too late in the round, but they definitely do need a QB
Wilson, is significantly better than Fields, but his deficiencies really showed yesterday. He struggles to throw from inside the pocket, which is why we don't see many slants or crossing routes.

[K_C_]

A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.

Dude I will bet you a case of whatever beer you want or a very expensive bourbon that they don't take a RB in the first round. Jeanty would be tempting if he were there (he won't be. People see Saquon II with him) but there is absolutely no fucking chance they take a RB in the first round.

George Pickens is a phenomenal player but he's 1) our only dangerous weapon at WR and 2) he's clearly batshit crazy in very likely an AB sort of way.

They will take a WR in the first or second round for a few reasons (I believe that WR will be the first round pick and very possibly, a trade up.) First, they fucked up last April waiting too long to take Roman Wilson in the 3rd. I still have belief Wilson will make a very positive contribution but like Calvin Austin, his rookie year obviously didn't happen. They will not repeat that fuck up again. Secondly, while Pickens is obviously a superstar level player, I'm not sure the Steelers will want to commit 30 + million per year to a guy that is CLEARLY fucked in the head. Even if they do decide to pay Pickens, which is possible, everybody and their mother has seen what our WR corps looks like without Pickens and even with GP on the field, Russ is limited offensively in a way a guy like Joe Burrow isn't. Chase is covered? Fuck it, he'll throw it to Higgins who is nearly as good.

The Steelers need to find their Tee Higgins.....and who knows, if he becomes a free agent I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they try and lock Higgins up. The guy to me that "got away" is Jerry Jeudy. You put Jeudy (who is the type of elite separator and route runner we all wish Diontae Johnson would have been) alongside George Pickens and the Steelers right now might be Super Bowl favorites.

They HAVE TO find Pickens a running mate and I also wouldn't be shocked if they trade Pickens at some point before his contract is up, worried he'll go off the rails.

What are they currently? Running the ball 2nd most int he NFL? If you want to play that way, you have multiple studs at RB + more OL investment. The main trait they're looking for in WRs is ability to block.

....and after Najee's (a massively disappointing first round RB they didn't extend and likely won't re-sign) game changing fumble, the Steelers, the very next series, went with an UDFA and a 57 year old kick returner at RB.

They kept Harris's ass on the bench.

Next season, Warren's touches are going to go way up and they will add another RB in the 5th round or so, or possibly as a free agent, that will be that grahnd and pahnd guy.

No question they need a RB next year and I pray Najee isn't in the black and gold (it wouldn't surprise me in the least Najee returns, but I'm hoping that doesn't happen) but no way they spend a first round pick on a back to get around 30% of the carries when Warren is going to be the man.

Lastly, I was just pondering first round running backs the Steelers have taken.

Franco Harris? Home run.
Walter Abercrombie? Bust.
Tim Worley? Bust.
Najee Harris? Meh.

Who am I missing?

[anpsteel]

Dude I will bet you a case of whatever beer you want or a very expensive bourbon that they don't take a RB in the first round. Jeanty would be tempting if he were there (he won't be. People see Saquon II with him) but there is absolutely no fucking chance they take a RB in the first round.

George Pickens is a phenomenal player but he's 1) our only dangerous weapon at WR and 2) he's clearly batshit crazy in very likely an AB sort of way.

They will take a WR in the first or second round for a few reasons (I believe that WR will be the first round pick and very possibly, a trade up.) First, they fucked up last April waiting too long to take Roman Wilson in the 3rd. I still have belief Wilson will make a very positive contribution but like Calvin Austin, his rookie year obviously didn't happen. They will not repeat that fuck up again. Secondly, while Pickens is obviously a superstar level player, I'm not sure the Steelers will want to commit 30 + million per year to a guy that is CLEARLY fucked in the head. Even if they do decide to pay Pickens, which is possible, everybody and their mother has seen what our WR corps looks like without Pickens and even with GP on the field, Russ is limited offensively in a way a guy like Joe Burrow isn't. Chase is covered? Fuck it, he'll throw it to Higgins who is nearly as good.

The Steelers need to find their Tee Higgins.....and who knows, if he becomes a free agent I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they try and lock Higgins up. The guy to me that "got away" is Jerry Jeudy. You put Jeudy (who is the type of elite separator and route runner we all wish Diontae Johnson would have been) alongside George Pickens and the Steelers right now might be Super Bowl favorites.

They HAVE TO find Pickens a running mate and I also wouldn't be shocked if they trade Pickens at some point before his contract is up, worried he'll go off the rails.

What are they currently? Running the ball 2nd most int he NFL? If you want to play that way, you have multiple studs at RB + more OL investment. The main trait they're looking for in WRs is ability to block.

....and after Najee's (a massively disappointing first round RB they didn't extend and likely won't re-sign) game changing fumble, the Steelers, the very next series, went with an UDFA and a 57 year old kick returner at RB.

They kept Harris's ass on the bench.

Next season, Warren's touches are going to go way up and they will add another RB in the 5th round or so, or possibly as a free agent, that will be that grahnd and pahnd guy.

No question they need a RB next year and I pray Najee isn't in the black and gold (it wouldn't surprise me in the least Najee returns, but I'm hoping that doesn't happen) but no way they spend a first round pick on a back to get around 30% of the carries when Warren is going to be the man.

Lastly, I was just pondering first round running backs the Steelers have taken.

Franco Harris? Home run.
Walter Abercrombie? Bust.
Tim Worley? Bust.
Najee Harris? Meh.

Who am I missing?

1979 Greg Hawthorne, who I'd completely forgotten about, as well; and yes, he was a bust too.

[W&M_Steeler]

Dude I will bet you a case of whatever beer you want or a very expensive bourbon that they don't take a RB in the first round. Jeanty would be tempting if he were there (he won't be. People see Saquon II with him) but there is absolutely no fucking chance they take a RB in the first round.

George Pickens is a phenomenal player but he's 1) our only dangerous weapon at WR and 2) he's clearly batshit crazy in very likely an AB sort of way.

They will take a WR in the first or second round for a few reasons (I believe that WR will be the first round pick and very possibly, a trade up.) First, they fucked up last April waiting too long to take Roman Wilson in the 3rd. I still have belief Wilson will make a very positive contribution but like Calvin Austin, his rookie year obviously didn't happen. They will not repeat that fuck up again. Secondly, while Pickens is obviously a superstar level player, I'm not sure the Steelers will want to commit 30 + million per year to a guy that is CLEARLY fucked in the head. Even if they do decide to pay Pickens, which is possible, everybody and their mother has seen what our WR corps looks like without Pickens and even with GP on the field, Russ is limited offensively in a way a guy like Joe Burrow isn't. Chase is covered? Fuck it, he'll throw it to Higgins who is nearly as good.

The Steelers need to find their Tee Higgins.....and who knows, if he becomes a free agent I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they try and lock Higgins up. The guy to me that "got away" is Jerry Jeudy. You put Jeudy (who is the type of elite separator and route runner we all wish Diontae Johnson would have been) alongside George Pickens and the Steelers right now might be Super Bowl favorites.

They HAVE TO find Pickens a running mate and I also wouldn't be shocked if they trade Pickens at some point before his contract is up, worried he'll go off the rails.

What are they currently? Running the ball 2nd most int he NFL? If you want to play that way, you have multiple studs at RB + more OL investment. The main trait they're looking for in WRs is ability to block.

....and after Najee's (a massively disappointing first round RB they didn't extend and likely won't re-sign) game changing fumble, the Steelers, the very next series, went with an UDFA and a 57 year old kick returner at RB.

They kept Harris's ass on the bench.

Next season, Warren's touches are going to go way up and they will add another RB in the 5th round or so, or possibly as a free agent, that will be that grahnd and pahnd guy.

No question they need a RB next year and I pray Najee isn't in the black and gold (it wouldn't surprise me in the least Najee returns, but I'm hoping that doesn't happen) but no way they spend a first round pick on a back to get around 30% of the carries when Warren is going to be the man.

Lastly, I was just pondering first round running backs the Steelers have taken.

Franco Harris? Home run.
Walter Abercrombie? Bust.
Tim Worley? Bust.
Najee Harris? Meh.

Who am I missing?

Mendenhall, another disappointment / bust.

[K_C_]

Good calls @W&M_Steeler and @anpsteel

I had forgotten about Hawthorne (didn’t they try to convert him to TE at one point or am I thinking of someone else) and I wish I could forget Mendenhall.

Permanently.

[StillerDownSouth]

Mr Spinderella, did someone mention costly fumbles?

[Ice]

A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.

If we're doing it, hopefully with a trade-down, I have a wish list.

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

I'd consider going for two, to be perfectly honest. If we're going to run this offense, we should do it with fidelity. RBs who can get chunks, well-rounded, fully functional WRs instead of slot midgets, and maybe even that elusive move TE.

Can't be half a gangster.

[LakecrestSteeler]

They’ll never do it, but adding an elite TE receiver would be extremely useful to a team hellbent on running it.

They should have moved up to take Bowers. He's crazy legit. The O-Lineman we took didn't even see the field this year.

I think there's a TE in this class who is up there with Bowers. Or at least nearly as good. There are some really good TEs.

Are we going for the 3 in a row PSU upgrade with Tyler Warren?

[bradshaw2ben]

If we're doing it, hopefully with a trade-down, I have a wish list.

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

I'd consider going for two, to be perfectly honest. If we're going to run this offense, we should do it with fidelity. RBs who can get chunks, well-rounded, fully functional WRs instead of slot midgets, and maybe even that elusive move TE.

Can't be half a gangster.

Yes, we’re on the same page

[bradshaw2ben]

They should have moved up to take Bowers. He's crazy legit. The O-Lineman we took didn't even see the field this year.

I think there's a TE in this class who is up there with Bowers. Or at least nearly as good. There are some really good TEs.

Are we going for the 3 in a row PSU upgrade with Tyler Warren?

Oh dear god I hope not

[Mick]

A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.

If we're doing it, hopefully with a trade-down, I have a wish list.

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

[bradshaw2ben]

If we're doing it, hopefully with a trade-down, I have a wish list.

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

[OhioSteeler]

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

B2B, we know they will draft a RB. Who would be on your wish list for the way Smith wants to run the ball?

[bradshaw2ben]

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

B2B, we know they will draft a RB. Who would be on your wish list for the way Smith wants to run the ball?

I’ve been saying for some time now that Raheim Sanders is the ideal guy for them. He’s big, he’s dang good in the pass game. Big game hunter. I could be talked into Kaleb Johnson for them but I think he’s a 2-down back in the NFL. There’s about five guys I love but I can’t see any of them fitting their parameters. Nick Singleton would be boss but I doubt he’s coming out unless they win the natty and even then it’s 50/50.

If they would overlook some of his measurables, Skatteboo is like James Conner 2.0, so he would fit.

[Gonzo]

two things are correct here:

1. we should stop wishing for things that wont happen -- as long as this Coach is here, this is the Offense we will run. We wish every year and are proven wrong (or right) every year. They well may take a RB early.
2. a poster above mentoned it -- they want to play this type of offense and defense but have done a shit job at actually building it -- they talk a lot of shit but dont actually execute it ... I wonder where that comes from? If we are stuck with this and they wont change -- both likely true -- then they should build a proper team to do it.

This team does not run the ball well and this team is not tough

[Ice]

I mean, unless you get Jeanty in the last 4 picks of the 1st, the difference between RBs taken 33-75 and those taken 76-UDFA will be minimal. This RB class is stupid deep.

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

And who can threaten the edge and be a big-play threat overall. Detroit is as or more committed to the run as the Steelers, and they can score almost at will most weekends (as well as be more objectively entertaining than almost all of the Steeler games this season), because they're multiple with the types of threat their backs pose, and their whole team is built to complement it.

/rant

[Ice]

I think there's a TE in this class who is up there with Bowers. Or at least nearly as good. There are some really good TEs.

Are we going for the 3 in a row PSU upgrade with Tyler Warren?

Oh dear god I hope not

Unfortunately, to coin your phrase, on-brand as all get-out. Here's a question, does the fact that it probably blocks this move make you more or less happy that they signed Mooth to that kinda ridiculous extension?

[Gonzo]

we are not going to be the Lions
Wer throw LOS passes and the sideline lob

Detroit mixes up expectations of when they will run and pass

we culd have the entire Lions team and we would not be the Lions

[Deebo]

that may be true, but starting in the 2nd round i’ll be fine if they take an RB and he ends up being good. I’d go into the draft with RB as Plan C in rounds after the 1st; as soon as we don’t have a truly good option, we fill the RB hole.

Very rarely do we end up regretting the good players we got. It’s the need reaches that never do anything that hurt you.

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

And who can threaten the edge and be a big-play threat overall. Detroit is as or more committed to the run as the Steelers, and they can score almost at will most weekends (as well as be more objectively entertaining than almost all of the Steeler games this season), because they're multiple with the types of threat their backs pose, and their whole team is built to complement it.

/rant

The Lions WANT to score TDs
The Steelers HOPE to score TDs but are content with FGs

[W&M_Steeler]

Well, we can't have this conversation in a vacuum. This HC and this OC are committed to stupid football. So, the question is: should they draft weapons to make them okay with changing course? Like, when you end up with Antonio Brown, you can't totally feed Lev'eon Bell until his legs fall off. If you triple down on the strategy by drafting a RB early and bypassing better offensive wepaons that do more to affect scoring, then, yes, it doesn't matter whe you draft a RB. Hell, draft 3.

If you're going to invest so heavily into RB, then at least have the goldarn sense to draft one who is a weapon in the pass game.

And who can threaten the edge and be a big-play threat overall. Detroit is as or more committed to the run as the Steelers, and they can score almost at will most weekends (as well as be more objectively entertaining than almost all of the Steeler games this season), because they're multiple with the types of threat their backs pose, and their whole team is built to complement it.

/rant

The Lions WANT to score TDs
The Steelers HOPE to score TDs but are content with FGs

The Steelers HOPE to use the offense to burn clock. If they score a TD, then great, but don't score too fast.

[SteelerDayTrader]

And who can threaten the edge and be a big-play threat overall. Detroit is as or more committed to the run as the Steelers, and they can score almost at will most weekends (as well as be more objectively entertaining than almost all of the Steeler games this season), because they're multiple with the types of threat their backs pose, and their whole team is built to complement it.

/rant

The Lions WANT to score TDs
The Steelers HOPE to score TDs but are content with FGs

The Steelers HOPE to use the offense to burn clock. If they score a TD, then great, but don't score too fast.

Correct answer

[bradshaw2ben]

Are we going for the 3 in a row PSU upgrade with Tyler Warren?

Oh dear god I hope not

Unfortunately, to coin your phrase, on-brand as all get-out. Here's a question, does the fact that it probably blocks this move make you more or less happy that they signed Mooth to that kinda ridiculous extension?

Let's set aside what I think, because I don't think like them when it comes to TEs.

Warren is actually more a fit to replace Darnell Washington. IOW, he is more of a two-way TE type and while not as good a blacker as Washington, I'd expect the Steelers view would be that Warren is a better receiver. He's not––he's getting wide open looks from soft defenses worried about the run and also making tough catches in the middle of the filed that PIT won't even ask him to do. In order to move the needle, they need an upgrade to Heyward/Pruitt that might atually be a threat in the passing game. But I don't think there are that many targets to go around. My thought is that the one thing that might move the needle is if they could find a legit move TE who can block. They might get that guy some looks as WR3 and they might get him some targets that they're afraid to give to anyone else.

[Ice]

A team-first, high-character, pedigreed non-diva WR2 that really enjoys run-blocking in addition to being able to be a legit threat in the passing game is, if we're committed to Pickens at WR1, is something I'd very much like to see them come out of this draft with.

A real RB1 would be great, as well, but this offense needs a bunch of new pieces at the skill positions.

Not sure which of those two would be harder to find, but I have some ideas.

[SteelerDayTrader]

If the Steelers draft early offensive talent they will destroy their spirit soul and body doing what the Steelers do. NO ONE with top notch offensive talent wants to run into brick walls or get extremely limited targets. Do you know how many targets per game Pickens gets ?? Career average is less than 7 !!! That’s less than one PER POSSESSION !! OTOMH I bet he’s never gotten even 2 PER POSSESSION in any game !! Think about that. I’m not talking about a 4 down series. George Fucking Pickens hasn’t EVER been targeted more than once per possession on average AND the ACTUAL career average is LESS THAN ONE !!!

There are quite a few more examples I could cite over various decades

The Steelers have zero clue about winning NFL offensive concepts. And. They are PROUD about that. They think that’s a good thing. It’s how they want it.

Given that

I’d much rather put premium draft capital into the defense. At least the Steelers have SOME vague idea of success there.

I think it’s particularly important when you have a weak defense with damn few real needle movers the way the Steelers do.

NO ONE on this entire site can name even one Steelers defender who has ANY kind of really clutch play repeatedly. Maybe a game here a game there. Occasionally. But this defense has no Shazier’s or Clark’s or Harrison’s or Taylor’s or Polamalu’s or Hampton’s etc etc etc

Drafting a 1st or 2nd round WR ???? What the fuck for ??? So they can get ignored all game ?? So they can block ?? So they can leave for C2 money elsewhere without even a reasonable offer from the Steelers just as they are starting to develop into a serious threat ??

Fuck that


Draft a top 100 RB to run him between the guards all game long ?? To telegraph more than 70% of your run plays ?? To pound him into a wall until he’s injured rather than effectively use him as part of a deep RB unit ??


Fuck that too


Until this team shows me it has ANY clue offensively I want picks 1 and 2 spent on defense.

At least until we have a great defense and not the pretend overhyped clutchphobic unit we’ve had for damn near a decade now

[Ice]

Pretty sure last Sunday shows the effect a worthless offense can have on a defense, even one with a couple of All-Pros this season and a pretty good supporting cast when they can't keep them off the field. That defense was gassed by the end of the first half, completely shot by the 3rd quarter, and probably going to be feeling the effects of the 4th quarter on Saturday.

No WRs not named Pickens worth naming is a big reason that happened. Najee Harris as your RB1 is another. And you're on here ranting about the DEFENSE not having any impact players? Sheesh. It's either trolling at its best or there's fetty in your green corn.

[Deebo]

And who can threaten the edge and be a big-play threat overall. Detroit is as or more committed to the run as the Steelers, and they can score almost at will most weekends (as well as be more objectively entertaining than almost all of the Steeler games this season), because they're multiple with the types of threat their backs pose, and their whole team is built to complement it.

/rant

The Lions WANT to score TDs
The Steelers HOPE to score TDs but are content with FGs

The Steelers HOPE to use the offense to burn clock. If they score a TD, then great, but don't score too fast.

You're right. I should amend my post!

[OhioSteeler]

Oh dear god I hope not

Unfortunately, to coin your phrase, on-brand as all get-out. Here's a question, does the fact that it probably blocks this move make you more or less happy that they signed Mooth to that kinda ridiculous extension?

Let's set aside what I think, because I don't think like them when it comes to TEs.

Warren is actually more a fit to replace Darnell Washington. IOW, he is more of a two-way TE type and while not as good a blacker as Washington, I'd expect the Steelers view would be that Warren is a better receiver. He's not––he's getting wide open looks from soft defenses worried about the run and also making tough catches in the middle of the filed that PIT won't even ask him to do. In order to move the needle, they need an upgrade to Heyward/Pruitt that might atually be a threat in the passing game. But I don't think there are that many targets to go around. My thought is that the one thing that might move the needle is if they could find a legit move TE who can block. They might get that guy some looks as WR3 and they might get him some targets that they're afraid to give to anyone else.

Does his name happen to be Harold Fannin Jr.?