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Re: FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

Post by gojira5150 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:11 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:56 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:13 pm

Not sure I want guys that throw coaches under the bus on my team, either.
Correct. I was mostly going off a few quotes about TJ after the game appearing to be upset with the plan and lack of adjustments. Could have just been heat of the moment, but I think that sticks. Of course he's going to toe the company line, especially after having a few days to cool off.

I still believe TJ will asked not to be tagged, and they will grant that. And he will take a LONG hard look at other teams.

Which begs another question: After 8 years of getting the doors blown off in the playoffs, when they make it, exactly WHAT kind of FA is going to want to come here to play for Tomlin? Certainly not anyone that wants to win a championship.
Trade Watt, Scam & Minkah and see what kinda haul they can get. Jibba won't do it as his D would be worse off if Watt is gone (we all know Jibbas record is horrible without Watt)


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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:03 pm

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
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Tomlin, the man who does less with more
I have ZERO doubt that at least half the other coaches in the league would do at least as well as Tomlin with the hand he has been dealt with the mandate only to be competitive for a 6/7 seed. The less risk-averse coaches would probably have a least a few playoff wins with the players Tomlin has been humiliated with - TJ would be a legend rather than a borderline HOFer with no playoff wins.

NHALS is wholly unimpressive when you have gotten your doors blown off in the playoffs 6 straight times (8+ years). NHALS should be synonymous with "participation trophy".

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 pm

Guys, didn’t “Scam” just have one helluva year?
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Post by CKSteeler » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:02 pm

I don't get the trashing of guys like Heyward and Watt because they didn't perform super natural feats of strength come January when they were put into a position to fail in the first place.

Watt disappeared in the second half of the season because the Colts found a working blueprint to slow Watt down and the rest of the league copied it. The Steelers braintrust never adjusted.

Run defense is a team effort.

I'm more annoyed that the two veteran leaders of the defense probably play a big role in keeping Tomlin. But no key player has spoken out against Tomlin throughout his entire tenure so what are we going to do, trash them all? At some point loyalty has to come second to actually winning when it matters.

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Post by 955876 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm

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Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 pm
Guys, didn’t “Scam” just have one helluva year?
He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
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Post by langer » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:55 pm

Think about it, the oldest guy on the D is the only one noticeably making plays.

But Art the Dope says the players listen to Coach Mike, or something as stupid as that.

It's like watching a Mel Brooks movie on pro football, or maybe the Airplane/Naked Gun guys.
“We’ve got to write that story. We’ve got enough talent, we’ve got enough schematics to do big, big things. When I say big things, I’m talking about historic things.”

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:16 am

955876 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 pm
Guys, didn’t “Scam” just have one helluva year?
He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
I am going to keep posting it …

“It’s one thing to lose X-Os against a really talented offense,” Herbstreit said on the Amazon Prime broadcast with just over four minutes remaining in the first half, “but where the hell is the fight? This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. There’s nothing. They’re just going through the motions.”

Kirk Herbstreit on live broadcast about mainly the Steelers D

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:20 am

I sent it also to Rooney
All involved need to really reflect on that

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Post by langer » Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:43 pm

Little Art will call up Goodell and have Herbie banned from calling PIT games rather than accept what he's saying.
“We’ve got to write that story. We’ve got enough talent, we’ve got enough schematics to do big, big things. When I say big things, I’m talking about historic things.”

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Post by Ice » Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:46 pm

Sad thing is, while slightly more specific, the five threads underneath this one (and maybe the podcast, too) could all just be folded into this general topic. Such is life in purgatory.
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Post by 955876 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:08 pm

langer wrote:
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Little Art will call up Goodell and have Herbie banned from calling PIT games rather than accept what he's saying.
This

But then he’d need to also ban Aikman, Romo, etc etc etc.

They all are starting to call out our bullshit.
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Post by 955876 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:11 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:16 am
955876 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 pm
Guys, didn’t “Scam” just have one helluva year?
He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
I am going to keep posting it …

“It’s one thing to lose X-Os against a really talented offense,” Herbstreit said on the Amazon Prime broadcast with just over four minutes remaining in the first half, “but where the hell is the fight? This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. There’s nothing. They’re just going through the motions.”

Kirk Herbstreit on live broadcast about mainly the Steelers D
A Steelers D led by the big bad Heyward.

Why is this defense always flat and unprepared come playoff time?

That’s why he gets called Scam Heyward.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 82 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by gojira5150 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:13 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:11 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:16 am
955876 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm


He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
I am going to keep posting it …

“It’s one thing to lose X-Os against a really talented offense,” Herbstreit said on the Amazon Prime broadcast with just over four minutes remaining in the first half, “but where the hell is the fight? This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. There’s nothing. They’re just going through the motions.”

Kirk Herbstreit on live broadcast about mainly the Steelers D
A Steelers D led by the big bad Heyward.

Why is this defense always flat and unprepared come playoff time?

That’s why he gets called Scam Heyward.
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:57 pm

955876 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 pm
Guys, didn’t “Scam” just have one helluva year?
He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
Not sure I want players who talk shit about coaches.
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Post by 955876 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:31 pm

Odd that a professional reader such as yourself got “players that talk shit about coaches” from that.

Didn’t say that now did I?

There is a difference between being a blind loyalist and “talking shit about coaches”.

There is obviously a huge problem with the highest paid defense in the league.

Cam hasn’t been part of any solution.

He is the leader of that defense.

He shares in the blame despite having some decent stats this year.

Where was he and the rest of the defense when Baltimore posted historic rushing totals against them?

Why were defenders seen loafing around during the game?

Where was Captain Cam during all that?

Tomlin’s message and that of the Captain of his defense is falling on deaf ears.

But hey, let’s celebrate Cam putting together a stretch of regular season games where he had some good numbers.
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:28 am

Hearing the game was toast because the defense was overhauled prior to the Baltimore game changing Coverages / schemes etc and it totally flopped.

The players dragging ass playing uninspired football AND called out for it on TV.

How in the fuck are all these coaches coming back?

What in the actual fucking bizarre world is this?

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Post by langer » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:17 am

Art Rooney is an impotent leader who is lead around by this idiot Coach Mike.

I think that's pretty correct.

Tomlin's at the Senior Bowl basically shoving it in Art's face, cucking him out. Hilarious.

Rooney Rule indeed!
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:03 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:31 pm
Odd that a professional reader such as yourself got “players that talk shit about coaches” from that.

Didn’t say that now did I?

There is a difference between being a blind loyalist and “talking shit about coaches”.

There is obviously a huge problem with the highest paid defense in the league.

Cam hasn’t been part of any solution.

He is the leader of that defense.

He shares in the blame despite having some decent stats this year.

Where was he and the rest of the defense when Baltimore posted historic rushing totals against them?

Why were defenders seen loafing around during the game?

Where was Captain Cam during all that?

Tomlin’s message and that of the Captain of his defense is falling on deaf ears.

But hey, let’s celebrate Cam putting together a stretch of regular season games where he had some good numbers.
Decent? Lolz

First team all-pro

At age 35 he led all DTs with 71 tackles, had 8 sacks, 12 tfl, 11 pass blocks.

What TJ and Cam both deserve is a trade to a team where they have a real shot at a SB.

“Scam”

This is why I post so less frequently now.
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Post by 955876 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:43 pm

The SCAM isn’t in reference to his individual play.

It’s been said he is the one they say is responsible for passing on the “Steelers way” to the younger players.

He is the captain and most senior member of e defense.

And yet time and time again it’s the same thing with the defense. Are they ever going to show up in the playoffs with a solution or just more art Ickes after the fact how they need to do a better job. Next year.

And now we’ve got guys outright loafing out there. And doing so during a playoff game or Christ sake.

Where is Captain Cam then?

I said nothing in my post about his individual play.

But we’ve been told how important he is to the team because of the leadership and experience he brings.

Ok. Why were there so many defenders loafing and uninterested? Where is their captain then? Why aren’t they playing hard for him?

Why is his defense never ready for playoff games ?

Thats why I call him scam.

But you keep posting bout his great individual stats.

Or maybe get back to your day job since post like this bother you so much. Plus, you seem to be having issues understanding what you just read as you seem to be misrepresenting what is being said and why.

Good player. Great season. Especially for his age.

But he’s a big fraud in terms of all the other stuff. Just like the coach he idolizes.

They aren’t playin for the “players coach” and they certainly didn’t show up to play for their captain.

How many tackles did he have again this year??

Oh wait, it doesn’t matter. Nobody will care or remember.

They’ll remember our defense giving up the most rushing yards in postseason history though.

Captain Cam had his boys on D ready to go yet again come playoff time.

But but but he was a wrecking ball week 4.

Ok. His week 4 championship tee shirt is in the mail.

Maybe you can find one on EBay.
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Post by 955876 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:09 pm

First team all-pro

At age 35 he led all DTs with 71 tackles, had 8 sacks, 12 tfl, 11 pass blocks.
8 career playoff games.

1 sack.

Not even a single QB hit his past 5 playoff games. All games his defense has gotten blown off the field.



LOLZ.
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Post by gojira5150 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:47 pm

955876 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:09 pm
First team all-pro

At age 35 he led all DTs with 71 tackles, had 8 sacks, 12 tfl, 11 pass blocks.
8 career playoff games.

1 sack.

Not even a single QB hit his past 5 playoff games. All games his defense has gotten blown off the field.



LOLZ.
Crazy Huh. What did big He-Man Scam do in the Jags Blake Bortles PO game. I'll give you a hint, NOTHING!! Scam was in his prime then & got his crap pushed in by Leonard Fournette.
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:49 pm

langer wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:17 am
Art Rooney is an impotent leader who is lead around by this idiot Coach Mike.

I think that's pretty correct.

Tomlin's at the Senior Bowl basically shoving it in Art's face, cucking him out. Hilarious.

Rooney Rule indeed!
Art's beliefs are a charade. I've lost respect for him more so than Tomlin. Tomlin is the one holding the Steelers Hostage!!

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Post by 955876 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:47 am

This team wouldn’t have ever won shit without Dan Rooney.

RIP

Might not ever win again depending on which entitled brat takes over.
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955876 wrote:
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This team wouldn’t have ever won shit without Dan Rooney.

RIP

Might not ever win again depending on which entitled brat takes over.
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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:47 am

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But then he’d need to also ban Aikman, Romo, etc etc etc.

They all are starting to call out our bullshit.
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:15 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:11 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:16 am
955876 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm


He did.

He’s also the leader of the defense that keeps getting blown off the field when it really matters.

He’s also a huge defender of Tomlin.

I think people are tired of hearing his excuses year after year about what the defense needs to do after the fact.

When you are the teams best defensive lineman, the most established veteran, a huge supporter of the system and HC, all the while your unit is giving up historical worst yardage against the run in a playoff game you are a SCAM.

Like his coach he’s nothing but a regular season paper champion.

He’s too comfy. Just like Jibbs and right or wrong Heyward is going to catch blame for some of these woeful playoff performances.

He’s the leader of a defense that continually isn’t ready to compete in playoff games.
I am going to keep posting it …

“It’s one thing to lose X-Os against a really talented offense,” Herbstreit said on the Amazon Prime broadcast with just over four minutes remaining in the first half, “but where the hell is the fight? This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. There’s nothing. They’re just going through the motions.”

Kirk Herbstreit on live broadcast about mainly the Steelers D
A Steelers D led by the big bad Heyward.

Why is this defense always flat and unprepared come playoff time?

That’s why he gets called Scam Heyward.
Edelman said the Steelers are running the exact same D schemes his squad used the carve up.

You’re suffering from the Halo Effect fanning out from your dislike of Tomlin.

The defensive schemes are stale and shit and good teams know exactly what’s coming, but sure, demand that Watt and Cam overcome all this through individual effort. You sound just like Tomlin, dude. Scam just needs to execute.
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Post by 955876 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:44 pm

No. Not really at all actually.

I’m not talking bout his individual efforts and how he plays the game.

I’m talking bout how he’s the most tenured veteran, the one considered so important to passing on the “Steeler Way”, the one that should be most responsible on the field for the tone of the D and how they are playing. Etc etc.

Think a guy would have loafed around for long when MJG was out there?

Or Greg Lyold?

But with Cam it’s always the ah we just need to do X better next time.

Just saying, besides Tomlin, this defense is Cam’s if it’s anyone’s. He’s the leader there is he not?

And yet they keep getting blown off the field.

That’s why I call him Scam. Because this entire defense is a scam.

I’m not singling out his individual play. He goes hard and had a great year.

His career postseason stats are pretty bleak. But I get it, how much of that is our lame rinse repeat defense?

But he’s part of that too. Is Heyward a potted plant? He can’t suggest anything?

He’s seems just fine with what Jibbs does.
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Post by Stillchest » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:13 am

955876 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:44 pm
No. Not really at all actually.

I’m not talking bout his individual efforts and how he plays the game.

I’m talking bout how he’s the most tenured veteran, the one considered so important to passing on the “Steeler Way”, the one that should be most responsible on the field for the tone of the D and how they are playing. Etc etc.

Think a guy would have loafed around for long when MJG was out there?

Or Greg Lyold?

But with Cam it’s always the ah we just need to do X better next time.

Just saying, besides Tomlin, this defense is Cam’s if it’s anyone’s. He’s the leader there is he not?

And yet they keep getting blown off the field.

That’s why I call him Scam. Because this entire defense is a scam.

I’m not singling out his individual play. He goes hard and had a great year.

His career postseason stats are pretty bleak. But I get it, how much of that is our lame rinse repeat defense?

But he’s part of that too. Is Heyward a potted plant? He can’t suggest anything?

He’s seems just fine with what Jibbs does.
All of those overrated, post-season, failing motherfuckers are FINE with Tomlin's, rinse N repeat, never winning anything significant loser mentality.

If TJ or Minkah valued winning at the highest level, they would be requesting a trade, similar to Myles Garrett or Cooper Kupp just requested.

They're ok with mediocrity, spinning their wheels seasonally, and getting embarrassed by legit championship teams.

They are...what their actions tell us they are.

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Post by StillerInCT » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:39 pm

Who'd have thought that Danny Smith would end up being the best coach on the staff?
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