Rodgers might be the "reset" button we need

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Re: Rodgers might be the "reset" button we need

Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:42 am

Deebo wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:39 pm
I'm hoping for mass chaos regardless of the QB this year.
Only way to get heat on Tomlin
Rodgers would get a prime bed in what’s become a mental ward of myriad disorders—ownership, management, coaching and players all included.
Fans too, for laboring to conjure up interest.
We’re back to pre 1970’s Steelers. Enjoy!



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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:11 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:35 pm
Mike Tomlin firey auto crash is the reset button we need.
Maybe the weird one is just the one to light the gas can on fire
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by franco32 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:16 pm

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Florio is saying he heard the Steelers offered Rogers two years 90 million with 40 million guaranteed. God I hope he is wrong. That's insane.
I thought he was just pulling those numbers out of his ass?

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Post by alancac98 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:59 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:35 pm
Mike Tomlin firey auto crash is the reset button we need.
I got banned for saying something similar on another Steelers site. It's sad to think that way, but it may be our only way out of this hell we are in!

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:13 pm

Rodgers on the Steelers would hold my interest in next season a lot longer than Wilson or anyone else out there. Let it be a complete circus. If there isn’t going to be any championships forthcoming and Tomlin MUST remain as Head Coach for Life, at least let it be entertaining.

Make it happen Omar!!!! 8-)

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:16 pm

"I got banned for saying something similar on another Steelers site. It's sad to think that way, but it may be our only way out of this hell we are in!"

Incorrect, Art would simply replace him with Marvin Lewis.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:52 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:57 am
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Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:01 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:57 pm


This is where I’m at

Rodgers on the Steelers makes his appearances on McAfee must see TV

See if he’ll unload on Tomlin and the Steelers when the season goes off the rails

Still

Id throw a draft pick at the Patriots for Joe Milton

Kid has an absolute canon

Moonballs to Metcalf and Pickens would be a fun watch
This is exactly why I think Rodgers ends up with the Giants and Russ is back in Pittsburgh.

Cool Shades is no moron. Russ is a sweetheart of a guy, loves Tomlin and will always be respectful.

Rodgers just got his coach fired and it wasn't the first time.

No way Tomlin signs off of Rodgers coming to Pittsburgh.

Milton, I agree wholeheartedly, the Steelers should go after hard.

I just wonder what kind of pick the Pats might want for him? It's not like Drake Maye is a sure thing.
Mike Tomlin could die in a fiery car crash and Art still wouldn’t fire him.
If shit goes south with an aged Aaron Rodgers who will be doing Pat MacAfee’s show and will be more than happy to call out Cool Shades on national television, it will be fucking chaos in that locker room.

….and at the end of last season there were a lot of unhappy campers. Mikey T. adds a Rodgers to that room who is almost certainly playing his last NFL seasons and will not have 2 fucks to give and…..lets just say I hope it happens.

Has disaster for Cool Shades written all over it.
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Post by langer » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:30 pm

Daniel Jones off the table. LOL.

Come on, let's get Rodgers in! They want to do it! Why not, what do they have to lose!!

DO IT DO IT NOW!!!
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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:50 pm

Adding Rodgers to the mix certainly brings
Rodgers. And this morning, talking heads on ESPN say it's best match for both Rodgers and Steelers. Consensus is that it didn't work with russ. BUT...Russ only had one legit wide to throw to...and was missing him for 3 games. With BOTH DK & GP...maybe different, and better story. Also, wondering if the holdup with Rodgers could be him trying to extract a commitment that GP is staying? Just a thought.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:11 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:13 pm
Rodgers on the Steelers would hold my interest in next season a lot longer than Wilson or anyone else out there. Let it be a complete circus. If there isn’t going to be any championships forthcoming and Tomlin MUST remain as Head Coach for Life, at least let it be entertaining.

Make it happen Omar!!!! 8-)
OMG...he is 41 years old. You guys were screaming about a younger Ben coming off an arm injury and he retired at 39. He at least knew the offense and how awful his coordinators were.

Rodgers at 41 won't stand a chance unless he is a handoff monkey. 19.6 points per game with AR. 16.1 if he is injured during the season.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:36 am

That’s are almost no options left for veterans

Rodgers and Russ and gints are reported to be favorites but that’s a dart throw
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Post by franco32 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:11 am

I love Ben, but his knees were gone at the end. ARod is in a LITTLE better state. Plus ARod didn't have elbow surgery.

I think Rodgers on an easy to get out of 1 yr deal would be amazing. That's high odds of blowing shit up. Then you have Skylar or a rookie starting. We tank and can draft fairly high for once.

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Post by langer » Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:19 am

Tin foil hat time.

What if Ben and Rodgers had a phone call and they both agreed to make Coach look like an idiot and totally hose the Steelers season? Maybe Rodgers has intent on retiring and just wants to go out sticking it to the man as much as he can.

Coach is crawling back, apparently, to Rudolph.

This whole thing is a clusterfuck.
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:44 am

I'd be fine with Rodgers as QB. If the alternative is now Rodgers versus some panic overdraft of fucking Ewers (for god's sake) or some such get Rodgers. The future is uncertain and the end is always near. The Steelers fucked the dog by not paying a bit more to get Fields to stay in house. So, here we are.

I've seen the Russ show. No thanks. Sew another name on the QB jersey.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:56 am

It would be hilarious to see Rodgers come out and pull the curtain on Tomlin. No way those two co-exist for a year. The wildcard will be Ben, because you know he won't be able to keep his mouth shut. Will Ben defend Tomlin, or will Ben side with Rodgers and call out Tomlin.

For football purposes, I'd rather just sign Mason Rudolph for cheap and see what happens. I bet some recent 1st round bust QB makes the roster (I'm guessing Trey Lance).

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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:56 pm

I understand the NFL salary cap as well as nuclear physics.

So can someone explain what barriers the Falcons and Steelers would have in terms of trading Kirk Cousins from a salary cap perspective?

If the cap worked out, what would you give up for him?

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:49 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:56 pm
I understand the NFL salary cap as well as nuclear physics.

So can someone explain what barriers the Falcons and Steelers would have in terms of trading Kirk Cousins from a salary cap perspective?

If the cap worked out, what would you give up for him?
I think the question should be "What would the Falcons give the Steelers to take the Kirk Cousins contract off their books?" It should be like when the Browns made the Texans send the Browns a 2nd round pick to take Brock Osweiler and his stupidly large contract from the Texans.

I would definitely be interested in the Falcons sending Cousins and a 2025 2nd to the Steelers, maybe in exchange for a Steelers 2026 3rd. That would help defray the cost of the DK Metcalf trade. Then sign Mason as the back-up and look for QB of the future in the 2026 draft.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:53 pm

Reports coming out too big a gap between Rodgers and the Steelers.

They don't want Russ back.

Get ready for a giant overreach for some shitty QB in this year's draft.

Yay.
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:09 pm

As fucked up as this org is, I can't imagine them spending that money on DK without a solid plan for QB in place.
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Post by alancac98 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:52 pm

The way I look at it is this - Tomlin will go nowhere till he has the most wins by a head coach in Steeler history. By my count he needs 26 wins. That turn out to be 3- 9 win seasons. Nothing is going to get this man fired by Art2, so might as well sit back and wish for 2- 14 win seasons with a 1st round exit from the playoffs as usual so that he breaks Noll's record and decides to leave! It's literally the only way he goes - if he steps down! Tomlin could be having an orgy with a bunch of underage boys in the practice facility and Art2 would just smile and say he's our guy!

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Post by Stillerz Bar » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
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As fucked up as this org is, I can't imagine them spending that money on DK without a solid plan for QB in place.
This kind of reminds me of last year's attempt to get another WR - Steelers aren't quite ready to spend top level cash so they hmm and haw around while our options dwindle. In the end we get a combo of washed up, mildly successful, and unproven players.

Amazingly, once Wilson got in, he was able to turn that ragtag group into a 400+ yard win over Cincy. However, after that happened, the Tomlin / Smith brain trust put handcuffs on Russ and after an underwhelming revenge win over the Browns, we proceeded to bottom out and lose the rest of our games without ever scoring more than 18 points again.

From where I sit, it really doesn't matter who we end up with under center because Tomlin & Smith will only let them hand off, throw short and maybe once or twice a game try a long bomb. That makes the DK decision even more head scratching since they have no idea who will throw to him 4 times a game. :roll:

That said, I'm in the group that just doesn't like the jagoff Rogers has turned into (or maybe always was). He is a full blown locker room cancer and with only encourage Pickens to increase his jagoffery.

If Russ is willing to come back after being held back the last 6 games of the season, then that would be my first choice. No he can't still make all of the throws but, given the permission, he can make a of of them. Hell, I'd even take Mason Rudolph back over Rogers.

Time to sit back, grab some popcorn and watch how this shitshow plays out.

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Post by cyberlaz » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:17 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:09 pm
As fucked up as this org is, I can't imagine them spending that money on DK without a solid plan for QB in place.
Hey Dan something we agree on!

I sure hope you are right...What I have heard is Rodgers doesn't look good and I got this feeling that if Rodgers doesn't work out then our luck Wilson will be gone. Ugh...

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Post by .Kodiak » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:23 pm

cyberlaz wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:17 pm
I sure hope you are right...What I have heard is Rodgers doesn't look good and I got this feeling that if Rodgers doesn't work out then our luck Wilson will be gone. Ugh...
It seems to me like the DK move was clearly to help land the QB they wanted. Maybe that was Darnold. Don't know. But clearly they weren't very excited about Wilson, and only interested in Fields on the cheap.

The interesting thing about the DK move is, if they don't get a quality QB, then they can trade Pickens (whom they were probably losing in a year, anyway).

If after everything else we end up desperately overpaying Wilson then that tells you their offseason QB plan was a failure. The people running this organization might be dumb, but it's simply incredulous that you might bring back BOTH Wilson and OC Smith. The only way to justify that is NHALS.

Kind of feels like we're entering the Tomlin stage of "I wonder just how much I can get away with..."

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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:03 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:09 pm
As fucked up as this org is, I can't imagine them spending that money on DK without a solid plan for QB in place.
I realize this franchise doesn't deserve grace or any benefit of the doubt, but to be fair it's a chicken vs egg situation.

Gotta have the goods (decent WRs) to attract a QB, but you run the risk of not having a QB if you get your WR 1st.

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:59 pm

I'll be shocked if Rogers comes here. They are going to get fucked by Wilson who will want alot of money and they will probably pay it. I think the Steelers are finally going to collapse, it's way overdue.

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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:29 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:59 pm
I'll be shocked if Rogers comes here. They are going to get fucked by Wilson who will want alot of money and they will probably pay it. I think the Steelers are finally going to collapse, it's way overdue.
It's coming regardless.

What QB could drag this team to 9 wins (NHALS)?

Possible but not likely category:

Cousins
Wilson

No way possible:
Fields - realize he's gone
Rodgers
Daniel Jones - know he's not available
Darnold - see above
Winston
Mason R

There is no one left as a lock that would provide these wins that Tomlin desperately needs. The train is coming down the track if you put your ear to the rail

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Post by swissvale72 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:51 pm

Stillerz Bar wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 pm
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:09 pm
As fucked up as this org is, I can't imagine them spending that money on DK without a solid plan for QB in place.
This kind of reminds me of last year's attempt to get another WR - Steelers aren't quite ready to spend top level cash so they hmm and haw around while our options dwindle. In the end we get a combo of washed up, mildly successful, and unproven players.

Amazingly, once Wilson got in, he was able to turn that ragtag group into a 400+ yard win over Cincy. However, after that happened, the Tomlin / Smith brain trust put handcuffs on Russ and after an underwhelming revenge win over the Browns, we proceeded to bottom out and lose the rest of our games without ever scoring more than 18 points again.

From where I sit, it really doesn't matter who we end up with under center because Tomlin & Smith will only let them hand off, throw short and maybe once or twice a game try a long bomb. That makes the DK decision even more head scratching since they have no idea who will throw to him 4 times a game. :roll:

That said, I'm in the group that just doesn't like the jagoff Rogers has turned into (or maybe always was). He is a full blown locker room cancer and with only encourage Pickens to increase his jagoffery.

If Russ is willing to come back after being held back the last 6 games of the season, then that would be my first choice. No he can't still make all of the throws but, given the permission, he can make a of of them. Hell, I'd even take Mason Rudolph back over Rogers.

Time to sit back, grab some popcorn and watch how this shitshow plays out.
Rudolph has been mentioned. He played well last 3 regular season games of '23, he's 6'5", wouldn't cost a lot. Sign him up and move on.

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Post by Greeksteel » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:08 pm

Would anyone here be really surprised if Tomlin was dumb enough to trade this years #21 and future draft capital to move up and get Primes kid. I know i wouldnt be.

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:29 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:08 pm
Would anyone here be really surprised if Tomlin was dumb enough to trade this years #21 and future draft capital to move up and get Primes kid. I know i wouldnt be.
I'm thinking they will panic and do this with Sanders or one of these other qb's this year.

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Post by jeemie » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:01 pm

More and more I am reading, the more it appears the Steelers have really fucked this QB situation up royally.

They let Fields walk for what is peanuts in today's league.

They said fuck no to Wilson.

Darnold wanted to go where he would be in a real offensive system.

And now Rodgers is apparently holding them hostage.

And I am loving it.
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