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Re: Kaleb Johnson

Post by Steelersfan » Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:53 pm

I'm not worried at ALL about Kaleb Johnson.

In Tomlin's post game presser, has swore he would practice/teach the leagues new kickoffs rules this week. So he'll be better from here on out <sarc off>

Also Kaleb is being coached the RB coach that has coached up guys like Najee Harris, Anthony McFarland, Benny Snell, Kalen Ballage, Trey Edmonds, & Jaylen Samuels and turned them into all pros & hall-a-famers. So no worries. <sarc off>

This Faulkner fuckhead should have been shown the door a year or 2 before Canada. And he should of taken Alfredo with him.



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Post by 14Thumb » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:33 am

Maybe Tomlin can bring back Dri Archer, Mewelde Moore, Ryan Switzer, Chris Rainey, or Najeh Davenport.

Wow, just writing that list made my head hurt with futility.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:55 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:22 pm
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Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:50 pm
As I said in the game thread, why the fuck are the kick returners not rotating behind the one about to imminently receive the kickoff? If you are using the second kick returners as a fucking blocker then you are a coaching fool in a sport with an oblong ball.

That philosophy is just as much to blame as Johnson! Shame on Tomlin and Smith for playing checkers and not taking a page out of baseball as the pitchers do for the 3rd baseman! It is so simple and obvious, again a fucking oblong ball!
A backup KR in case the ball goes thru Johnson's legs? Who the fuck in the league does something that stupid - just waste a blocker because you expect your KR to make a mistake?
Yes this was an overreaction on a Sunday after a shit play. I just immediately want to blame coaching.

However, it was not that long ago that the kick returners would run over to the other to ensure a clean catch, and then take off to block or join the wedge. Rules have changed of course, but running over or behind the guy to ensure a clean transaction and blocking are not mutually exclusive. If the KR not receiving the ball loops behind and times the sprint he could do both and be at full speed to head towards his target block or hit the brakes and help scoop a muff.

Nothing like this comes from our coaching staff. 400 level coaching conservatism!

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Post by jebrick » Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:58 pm

I'm willing to give it time but he is basically Najee with supposedly better vision.
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Post by Ice » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:28 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:49 pm
Tomlin has some fascination with putting slow, unexplosive RB's back on KR's. Did Johnson even do this in college? I need someone to enact that labor for me.

I don't really care. Right now everything seems to big for him.
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Post by AirRescueFF » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:54 pm

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Sat Sep 27, 2025 7:02 pm

So after watching college football last weekend and today, I constantly see kickoffs go over the receivers head, land in the end zone, and they never look back at the ball, just walk off the field like Kaleb did, so to me, this indicates it probably wasn't ever taught to him by our dipshit coaches, and now he's in a permanent Tomlin doghouse, because imo if he was coached up, he would have went and got on the ball.

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Post by langer » Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:05 pm

Remember when as a rookie Najee asked the illustrious Coach T for some help and he was blown off and told to figure it out himself.

Yeah...attention to detail and doing actual coaching work is something Coach Mike doesn't do.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:55 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 7:02 pm
So after watching college football last weekend and today, I constantly see kickoffs go over the receivers head, land in the end zone, and they never look back at the ball, just walk off the field like Kaleb did, so to me, this indicates it probably wasn't ever taught to him by our dipshit coaches, and now he's in a permanent Tomlin doghouse, because imo if he was coached up, he would have went and got on the ball.
Tomlins resp9nse to this question after the game...
He said, we talk about this every day.
I have a hard time believing this as his arrogance
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Post by tbsteel » Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:04 pm

If Roman Wilson and Kaleb Johnson both bust, to go on top of a lot of other issues, I think Khan and Weidl should be shown the door. I think they've been better than latter day Colbert, but you can't miss like they have as much as they have in the top 100 and keep this kind of job.
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Post by Steelperch » Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:30 am

tbsteel wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:04 pm
If Roman Wilson and Kaleb Johnson both bust, to go on top of a lot of other issues, I think Khan and Weidl should be shown the door. I think they've been better than latter day Colbert, but you can't miss like they have as much as they have in the top 100 and keep this kind of job.
Johnson lacks burst, but he’s also not very physical for a supposed power back. I just don’t see it with him. His vision was supposed to better than he’s shown as well.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:07 am

just putting it in here because Tomlin's incompetence has been discussed.

Today he came out and said that Flores learned the Vikings turnover culture from the Steelers. As if coaching for Belichick wouldn't have taught him that.

My guess is that the talk about how smart Flores is this week and how he should have been kept in Pittsburgh is getting to his fragile ego.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:04 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:30 am
tbsteel wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:04 pm
If Roman Wilson and Kaleb Johnson both bust, to go on top of a lot of other issues, I think Khan and Weidl should be shown the door. I think they've been better than latter day Colbert, but you can't miss like they have as much as they have in the top 100 and keep this kind of job.
Johnson lacks burst, but he’s also not very physical for a supposed power back. I just don’t see it with him. His vision was supposed to better than he’s shown as well.
Supposedly there were voices in the draft room who wanted the Steelers to trade up to take Johnson. It's too early to give up on him, but it would have been especially irritating had the Steelers spent multiple picks on the guy.

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:16 pm

Those carries today are going to really help Kaleb's confidence going forward.

He looked good, thank God.
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Post by drmalba » Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:52 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:16 pm
Those carries today are going to really help Kaleb's confidence going forward.

He looked good, thank God.
I was glad to see him get some work, but I'd say the jury's still out. He showed some power, but still looks stiff and slow. He benefitted from the OL actually showing up to play.

If our coaching staff didn't have the collective testicles of a chipmunk, Id say hes the kind of guy you could probably depend on to crank out a hard yard or two when you really need it.

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:56 pm

He did nothing today. Basically 2 yards per carry less than Gainwell got today and dropped an easy pass right in is hands.
There wasn’t a single play where he did anything more than the minimum you’d expect from an NFL RB.

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Post by anpsteel » Sun Sep 28, 2025 7:39 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:56 pm
He did nothing today. Basically 2 yards per carry less than Gainwell got today and dropped an easy pass right in is hands.
There wasn’t a single play where he did anything more than the minimum you’d expect from an NFL RB.
Yeah


Thinking he played a good game, is a reflection of how shitty he’s been previously

So by not fumbling or doing something epically stupid, is him improving

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Post by Jizz Mop » Sun Sep 28, 2025 7:43 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 7:39 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:56 pm
He did nothing today. Basically 2 yards per carry less than Gainwell got today and dropped an easy pass right in is hands.
There wasn’t a single play where he did anything more than the minimum you’d expect from an NFL RB.
Yeah


Thinking he played a good game, is a reflection of how shitty he’s been previously

So by not fumbling or doing something epically stupid, is him improving
What About Bob baby steps

Kaleb just has to lose his pet goldfish so he can cut better

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Post by tbsteel » Sun Sep 28, 2025 8:03 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:56 pm
He did nothing today. Basically 2 yards per carry less than Gainwell got today and dropped an easy pass right in is hands.
There wasn’t a single play where he did anything more than the minimum you’d expect from an NFL RB.
.

And if anything, today clearly confirmed our two top backs are Warren and Gainwell.

There's really not a reason to waste any touches on him.
*roots for losses*

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Sep 28, 2025 9:10 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 8:03 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:56 pm
He did nothing today. Basically 2 yards per carry less than Gainwell got today and dropped an easy pass right in is hands.
There wasn’t a single play where he did anything more than the minimum you’d expect from an NFL RB.
.

And if anything, today clearly confirmed our two top backs are Warren and Gainwell.

There's really not a reason to waste any touches on him.
It's obvious Warren and Gainwell and RB1 and RB2, but Johnson got valuable carries today and he did not embarrass himself.

Sure, he didn't look all that great but he covered up the ball and went forward.

After his gigantic fuck up last week, today was a confidence builder for Kaleb.
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Post by Stallworth16 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:16 pm

Kaleb was a very good RB in college. Whether that translates to the pros remains to be seen.

But the kickoff mistake was not related to RB skill set. It was either not knowing the new rules or forgetting the new rules. Kickoff return is a different skill set.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:00 am

I think they will need him at some point this season, Warren and Gainwell are both smallish running backs that have been primarily used as 3rd down backs most of their careers. Gainwell is 5'9" and prob 190, the most carries he has had in a season is 85, Warren is 215, not terribly small, but most carries he has ever had in a season is 149, so Kaleb getting some work today was a good thing imo.

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Post by cyberlaz » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:09 am

Today you witnessed the first productive plays of Barry Foster 2.0.

By the end of the season I expect BF2 to be at or beyond the level of Barry Foster 1.0 running the ball.

It is fate...the missed kickoff hasn't happened since Foster did it and its really strange that it happened to a Steelers rookie twice! It is sign!

So sit back and enjoy the rise of BF2. BF1 was a lot of fun to watch! So I am really looking forward to watching BF2. :D

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Post by Steeldrama » Sat Oct 11, 2025 1:14 am

Never did I think I’d be jealous of the NY Giants

Dig the now wildly uncommon unbridled enthusiasm on display last night from Cam Skattebo and Jaxson Dart

Kaleb Johnson

Pshaw

Coulda
Woulda
Shoulda

Drafted Skattebo
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Post by Stillchest » Sat Oct 11, 2025 6:42 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 1:14 am
Never did I think I’d be jealous of the NY Giants

Dig the now wildly uncommon unbridled enthusiasm on display last night from Cam Skattebo and Jaxson Dart

Kaleb Johnson

Pshaw

Coulda
Woulda
Shoulda



Drafted Skattebo
I think both those players would look like busts in Artie's one dimensional offense.

Brian Dabol's offensive football schematics and play calling, shits all over Smith's and Tomlin's.

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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Sat Oct 11, 2025 12:43 pm

Hope the kid doesn’t develop full-blown Limas Swede-itis.

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Post by Stallworth16 » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:14 pm

Kaleb Johnson was a strong and fast RB in college with a good cut and acceleration. Not knowing the new Kickoff rules, has nothing to do with his RB skill set. What a big runner needs is lots of carries and reps, to get rhythm. That’s what Skat is getting with the Giants.

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Post by anpsteel » Sat Oct 11, 2025 8:09 pm

cyberlaz wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:09 am
Today you witnessed the first productive plays of Barry Foster 2.0.

By the end of the season I expect BF2 to be at or beyond the level of Barry Foster 1.0 running the ball.

It is fate...the missed kickoff hasn't happened since Foster did it and its really strange that it happened to a Steelers rookie twice! It is sign!

So sit back and enjoy the rise of BF2. BF1 was a lot of fun to watch! So I am really looking forward to watching BF2. :D
Barry Foster was much quicker and more decisive than Johnson.

Warren is much closer to Foster than Johnson

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Post by zeke5123 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:28 pm

Benny Snell just doesn’t seem to be any good.

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Post by RealSwiss » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:52 pm

Im curious to now how the Steelers decided on Johnson. He wasn`t a particularly high rated running back from what I saw in the statistics. Skattebo and his near 40" vertical leap and 10ft + broad jump would have seemed to fit much better with Tomlins bell-cow back approach. Maybe he never knew anyone close to Tomlin.


Steeldrama wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 1:14 am
Never did I think I’d be jealous of the NY Giants

Dig the now wildly uncommon unbridled enthusiasm on display last night from Cam Skattebo and Jaxson Dart

Kaleb Johnson

Pshaw

Coulda
Woulda
Shoulda

Drafted Skattebo

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