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Post by .Kodiak » Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:38 pm

First time I've ever seen it so direct and succinctly. That guy 100% nails Tomlin's approach and reason for NHALS.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:32 pm

Saw this last night. Looks as though it sort-a-got buried and I was forced to specifically search key words, on Tomlin and Tomlin alone…

‘Opening statement snip’ quoted below.
I have learned a lot today about the inner workings of the Steelers, and it is amazing to me that there are still people who are looking to find excuses for their current defensive struggles without pointing the finger precisely where it belongs.
Steelers' woes rest on Mike Tomlin — and Tomlin alone
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pau ... 2510280092

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:49 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:38 pm
First time I've ever seen it so direct and succinctly. That guy 100% nails Tomlin's approach and reason for NHALS.
It’s not the first time Warren Sharpe has called this out. I do remember other times he’s calling it out ! It’s a pattern / trend and not in the good direction.
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:50 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:32 pm
Saw this last night. Looks as though it sort-a-got buried and I was forced to specifically search key words, on Tomlin and Tomlin alone…

‘Opening statement snip’ quoted below.
I have learned a lot today about the inner workings of the Steelers, and it is amazing to me that there are still people who are looking to find excuses for their current defensive struggles without pointing the finger precisely where it belongs.
Steelers' woes rest on Mike Tomlin — and Tomlin alone
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pau ... 2510280092
Zeiss has been a frequent light shiner on Tomlin
But this has to become the national drumbeat
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by langer » Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:33 pm

Yeah but what about his cool sayings that can get printed on shirts?
“We’ve got to write that story. We’ve got enough talent, we’ve got enough schematics to do big, big things. When I say big things, I’m talking about historic things.”

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Post by CKSteeler » Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:41 pm

The blitzing is actually new to this season as they had seriously cut back on it throughout Austin's tenure. But as far as this season goes, what he says is spot on. They've attempted to play a lot more man this year than before which basically just goes to show they really believed their own bullshit heading into this season. They though these ancient CB's were the answer.

Teryl Austin came out and said he calls the defense with Mike calling a play when he feels like it. I'm not buying it. This comes after another report this week cited in this very thread that basically says yea...Tomlin runs the defense.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:48 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:41 pm
The blitzing is actually new to this season as they had seriously cut back on it throughout Austin's tenure. But as far as this season goes, what he says is spot on. They've attempted to play a lot more man this year than before which basically just goes to show they really believed their own bullshit heading into this season. They though these ancient CB's were the answer.

Teryl Austin came out and said he calls the defense with Mike calling a play when he feels like it. I'm not buying it. This comes after another report this week cited in this very thread that basically says yea...Tomlin runs the defense.
He says this but why is Tomlin been caught on tv camera holding a card (playsheet) up to his mouth. It's small but i have seen this. the radio guys in town also made mention of this yesterday
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:59 pm

Tomlin and HIS coaching staff are making it very very difficult to stay loyal to this team. We need a major infusion of new, young, innovative and most
importantly competent coaching. Tomlin and his stooges have sapped me of pretty much all enthusiasm i used to have for this team. I still follow
along tho and hope things will turn around even tho i know it wont until Tomlin decides hes had enough in Pittsburgh. Even hoping for new and talented draft picks is futile when you realize who will be coaching them "up".

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:59 pm
Tomlin and HIS coaching staff are making it very very difficult to stay loyal to this team. We need a major infusion of new, young, innovative and most
importantly competent coaching. Tomlin and his stooges have sapped me of pretty much all enthusiasm i used to have for this team. I still follow
along tho and hope things will turn around even tho i know it wont until Tomlin decides hes had enough in Pittsburgh. Even hoping for new and talented draft picks is futile when you realize who will be coaching them "up".
Hey. listen, at least the Blue Jays looks like a competent franchise. Take what you can get in your fandom.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:20 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:59 pm
Tomlin and HIS coaching staff are making it very very difficult to stay loyal to this team. We need a major infusion of new, young, innovative and most
importantly competent coaching. Tomlin and his stooges have sapped me of pretty much all enthusiasm i used to have for this team. I still follow
along tho and hope things will turn around even tho i know it wont until Tomlin decides hes had enough in Pittsburgh. Even hoping for new and talented draft picks is futile when you realize who will be coaching them "up".
Hey. listen, at least the Blue Jays looks like a competent franchise. Take what you can get in your fandom.
Yes sir the Blue Jays are Rockstars!! Go Jays!!

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Post by Ice » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:59 pm
Tomlin and HIS coaching staff are making it very very difficult to stay loyal to this team. We need a major infusion of new, young, innovative and most
importantly competent coaching. Tomlin and his stooges have sapped me of pretty much all enthusiasm i used to have for this team. I still follow
along tho and hope things will turn around even tho i know it wont until Tomlin decides hes had enough in Pittsburgh. Even hoping for new and talented draft picks is futile when you realize who will be coaching them "up".
Hey. listen, at least the Blue Jays looks like a competent franchise. Take what you can get in your fandom.
It's tremendously uplifting to watch the Pens play this season. In particular, their game against the Blues the night after the SNF debacle. What a refreshing contrast to what's going on Sundays at Acrisure. Hell, Pitt is a refreshing contrast at this point. Sorry. Rant, and wrong forum times two, but even the loss to the Cryers was better tan a lot of what the Syeelers have put on television this season, even in some of the wins.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:58 pm

Ice wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:59 pm
Tomlin and HIS coaching staff are making it very very difficult to stay loyal to this team. We need a major infusion of new, young, innovative and most
importantly competent coaching. Tomlin and his stooges have sapped me of pretty much all enthusiasm i used to have for this team. I still follow
along tho and hope things will turn around even tho i know it wont until Tomlin decides hes had enough in Pittsburgh. Even hoping for new and talented draft picks is futile when you realize who will be coaching them "up".
Hey. listen, at least the Blue Jays looks like a competent franchise. Take what you can get in your fandom.
It's tremendously uplifting to watch the Pens play this season. In particular, their game against the Blues the night after the SNF debacle. What a refreshing contrast to what's going on Sundays at Acrisure. Hell, Pitt is a refreshing contrast at this point. Sorry. Rant, and wrong forum times two, but even the loss to the Cryers was better tan a lot of what the Syeelers have put on television this season, even in some of the wins.
Someday, someone will make the connection... "hmm, the Penguins had a solid coach but still made a coaching change, now they are refreshing and committed to rebuilding... AND THE FANS LOVE IT.

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Post by Ice » Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:09 pm

Crazy thing was the connection was obvious when we were drawing the parallels to Disco Dan a decade ago.
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Post by Orangesteel » Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:11 pm

Hear, hear. What the Pens are doing should be an example.

And I actually dont think Tomlin would get swooped up as fast as Sully was.
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Post by .Kodiak » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:29 pm

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Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:11 pm
And I actually dont think Tomlin would get swooped up as fast as Sully was.
That will be a fun thing to watch. Tomlin won't get $20M a year or close to what PIT is paying him, I don't think, because I don't expect there to be much interest, much less a bidding war. I think to save face he'll take a TV deal, which is likely to pay him as much or more than another team. But I actually think Tomlin wants to continue coaching - but would he risk going to a rebuild and falling on his face spectacularly?

It would be hilarious to see no one even make him an offer. Would be tough for a desperate team not to make that splash, but I think the lack of a coaching tree tells us exactly what other teams think of Tomlin.

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Post by 955876 » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Raiders might be that dumb.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 82 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by Deebo » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:46 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:58 pm
Ice wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 pm


Hey. listen, at least the Blue Jays looks like a competent franchise. Take what you can get in your fandom.
It's tremendously uplifting to watch the Pens play this season. In particular, their game against the Blues the night after the SNF debacle. What a refreshing contrast to what's going on Sundays at Acrisure. Hell, Pitt is a refreshing contrast at this point. Sorry. Rant, and wrong forum times two, but even the loss to the Cryers was better tan a lot of what the Syeelers have put on television this season, even in some of the wins.
Someday, someone will make the connection... "hmm, the Penguins had a solid coach but still made a coaching change, now they are refreshing and committed to rebuilding... AND THE FANS LOVE IT.
I take issue that the recent iteration of Sully was a "solid" coach.
Dude is a fraud just like Tomlin.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:12 pm

Deebo wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:46 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:58 pm
Ice wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm


It's tremendously uplifting to watch the Pens play this season. In particular, their game against the Blues the night after the SNF debacle. What a refreshing contrast to what's going on Sundays at Acrisure. Hell, Pitt is a refreshing contrast at this point. Sorry. Rant, and wrong forum times two, but even the loss to the Cryers was better tan a lot of what the Syeelers have put on television this season, even in some of the wins.
Someday, someone will make the connection... "hmm, the Penguins had a solid coach but still made a coaching change, now they are refreshing and committed to rebuilding... AND THE FANS LOVE IT.
I take issue that the recent iteration of Sully was a "solid" coach.
Dude is a fraud just like Tomlin.
They basically had the same reputation. Both had won championships and were very highly regarded by the media and the league at large. Both were consistent winners, although not contenders for many years. Both were convinced about their system, their way of doing things, their guys. Both were antiquated, stuck in old ideas.

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Post by Gonzo » Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:45 pm

Tomlin won’t last on TV …he is a one trick pony and the schtik won’t last … he doesn’t offer any analysis and he really isn’t that clever
He will stay as coach of Steelers as long as they will have him


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Post by langer » Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:47 pm

It really feels like someone is pushing an anti-Coach T agenda now. Things are different. The tide turned after Joe Flacco put on a public prime time flogging on the Most Expensive and Dangerous Defense, and Coach had no answers for it. TJ is doing jack shit and that's becoming obvious, obviously.

He's a one trick phony, I can't see him on TV either. You have to be able to talk and lie convincingly while smiling. I don't think he has that skillset in his arsenal. He's not likable either.

The last thing he wants is to be found out.
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Post by CKSteeler » Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:49 pm

It's hard to believe that Art II wasn't feeling that way years ago. I'd love to believe that report is true, but Dulac is chronically wrong about damn near everything. I don't trust a word he says let alone some offhand remark in one of his chats.

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Post by RealSwiss » Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:28 pm

It's not unreasonable to think that such dramatic failures by the "highest paid defense by far" has embarrassed Rooney professionally and personally in a way that Tomlins other deficiencies have not. Among team owners, he is probably feeling a bit of a fool.

Not a comfortable place to be.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:05 pm

this quote/ask comes from Jim Furyk (the golfer) The 93.7 guys discussed this during afternoon show. They think Dulac who is friends with Furyk, and avid Steeler fan, to post this in his chat. To get the celebrity angle going against the Clown.
Fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers on the “fire Mike Tomlin” bandwagon may have received some good news for a change — as a new report from Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Gerry Dulac indicates that Art Rooney II isn’t thrilled about the current shape of the team.

During a Steelers chat with fans, Dulac was asked if Rooney was “angry” with Tomlin over the lack of playoff wins and the recent failures of the highest-paid defense in the league — to which he set the record straight on the strained relationship between ownership and head coach.

“Angry is not the word,” Dulac wrote. “Frustrated or impatient would be a better choice.”

Rooney wouldn’t be the only one frustrated and impatient over the decade-long playoff disaster, as Steelers legend James Harrison aired his frustrations with the state of the team, claiming “people gotta go” after Pittsburgh’s loss to the Green Bay Packers in Week 8.
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Post by Gonzo » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:49 am

RealSwiss wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:28 pm
It's not unreasonable to think that such dramatic failures by the "highest paid defense by far" has embarrassed Rooney professionally and personally in a way that Tomlins other deficiencies have not. Among team owners, he is probably feeling a bit of a fool.

Not a comfortable place to be.
i would think that after the hold outs - clips out there of the team defense captains mailing it in on a few plays can't sit well. all while seeing cam, mike and tj repeat the same mindless BS after games.

i remain skeptical but it is possible that this veteran re-tooling was one last chance for tomlin to put the blame on execution as opposed to his Plan and lack of leadership and development.

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Post by 955876 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:49 am

I’m not sure who the bigger idiot is. Jibbs or the dipshit Art II replaces him with should we find ourselves with a vacancy.

Do not trust the Dunce even a little to hire the right guy.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 82 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by 955876 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:51 am

Gonzo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:49 am
RealSwiss wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:28 pm
It's not unreasonable to think that such dramatic failures by the "highest paid defense by far" has embarrassed Rooney professionally and personally in a way that Tomlins other deficiencies have not. Among team owners, he is probably feeling a bit of a fool.

Not a comfortable place to be.
i would think that after the hold outs - clips out there of the team defense captains mailing it in on a few plays can't sit well. all while seeing cam, mike and tj repeat the same mindless BS after games.

i remain skeptical but it is possible that this veteran re-tooling was one last chance for tomlin to put the blame on execution as opposed to his Plan and lack of leadership and development.
Those cunts should get tarred & feathered for their offseason whining bout needing to get paid more.

I’d trade them both right now.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 82 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by langer » Fri Oct 31, 2025 8:34 am

955876 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:51 am
Gonzo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:49 am
RealSwiss wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:28 pm
It's not unreasonable to think that such dramatic failures by the "highest paid defense by far" has embarrassed Rooney professionally and personally in a way that Tomlins other deficiencies have not. Among team owners, he is probably feeling a bit of a fool.

Not a comfortable place to be.
i would think that after the hold outs - clips out there of the team defense captains mailing it in on a few plays can't sit well. all while seeing cam, mike and tj repeat the same mindless BS after games.

i remain skeptical but it is possible that this veteran re-tooling was one last chance for tomlin to put the blame on execution as opposed to his Plan and lack of leadership and development.
Those cunts should get tarred & feathered for their offseason whining bout needing to get paid more.

I’d trade them both right now.
No kidding. It's an object lesson.

They threw tantrums about their calue, and more power to them, get the money.

But then jog around on the field, and doing a stupid ass sack dance while the team is falling apart.

Just not a good look. I notice they team up JJ Watt with his brother. Maybe that't a request from Steelers PR.

Gotta keep a positive spin on everything.
“We’ve got to write that story. We’ve got enough talent, we’ve got enough schematics to do big, big things. When I say big things, I’m talking about historic things.”

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Post by Deebo » Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:55 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:12 pm
Deebo wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:46 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:58 pm

Someday, someone will make the connection... "hmm, the Penguins had a solid coach but still made a coaching change, now they are refreshing and committed to rebuilding... AND THE FANS LOVE IT.
I take issue that the recent iteration of Sully was a "solid" coach.
Dude is a fraud just like Tomlin.
They basically had the same reputation. Both had won championships and were very highly regarded by the media and the league at large. Both were consistent winners, although not contenders for many years. Both were convinced about their system, their way of doing things, their guys. Both were antiquated, stuck in old ideas.
And both walked into ideal situations that didn't require much outside of bringing a new/voice energy.
Once that wore off, it was apparent to everyone that the Empower had no clothes

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