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Re: More Tomlin Criticism

Post by .Kodiak » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:30 pm

Deebo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:55 am
And both walked into ideal situations that didn't require much outside of bringing a new/voice energy.
Once that wore off, it was apparent to everyone that the Empower had no clothes
Tomlin didn't even have to do that. He just had to stay out of the way and let Lebeau, Arians and Ben cook. He was more of an assistant coach - coach, not Ass. HC - during that on-the-job training.



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Post by zeke5123 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:59 pm

Deebo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:55 am
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Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:46 pm


I take issue that the recent iteration of Sully was a "solid" coach.
Dude is a fraud just like Tomlin.
They basically had the same reputation. Both had won championships and were very highly regarded by the media and the league at large. Both were consistent winners, although not contenders for many years. Both were convinced about their system, their way of doing things, their guys. Both were antiquated, stuck in old ideas.
And both walked into ideal situations that didn't require much outside of bringing a new/voice energy.
Once that wore off, it was apparent to everyone that the Empower had no clothes
That is a bit untrue re Sully. He obviously stepped into a team that had immense talent. But he also brought up with him some good kids from WBS (e.g., Rust) AND trusted the kids to play even through some mistakes.

In contrast, Sully overtime came to distrust kids and play over the hill shitty vets (e.g., Nieto)

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:07 pm

too much hockey here :)

Love that we can all start the hockey insults again! Bring it.
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by Deebo » Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:56 pm

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:07 pm
too much hockey here :)

Love that we can all start the hockey insults again! Bring it.
The Pens are exciting again after about 5 years of fuckery with Sullivan. It's nice to be interested in them. I know this is an unsustainable start, but these guys actually bring effort and intensity, even if the talent level isn't there. That's all I care about - putting in an honest effort.

Probably only a few guys on the Steelers that I can say that about and that makes me hate this team

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:09 pm

Deebo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:56 pm
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:07 pm
too much hockey here :)

Love that we can all start the hockey insults again! Bring it.
The Pens are exciting again after about 5 years of fuckery with Sullivan. It's nice to be interested in them. I know this is an unsustainable start, but these guys actually bring effort and intensity, even if the talent level isn't there. That's all I care about - putting in an honest effort.

Probably only a few guys on the Steelers that I can say that about and that makes me hate this team
Same here for Philly. Toc is getting them to play and play smart.
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Post by jeemie » Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:57 pm

So they have bad players for the system, but they make up for it by telegraphing what they're doing.

Have I got that right?

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Post by langer » Sat Nov 01, 2025 12:55 am

who in the steelers actually vetted Coach Ts bona fides when they researched him? He seems to really not do anything, and the team is basically directionless without a vet QB to run things like a middle manager.

Would Wiz or Grimm have been a better choice at the time, if you will?

There are levels of fuckedness to this team.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by jeemie » Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:49 pm

langer wrote:
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who in the steelers actually vetted Coach Ts bona fides when they researched him? He seems to really not do anything, and the team is basically directionless without a vet QB to run things like a middle manager.

Would Wiz or Grimm have been a better choice at the time, if you will?

There are levels of fuckedness to this team.
Whiz took himself out of the running when he got the Arizona gig.

In retrospect, not sure the Rooneys cast a wide enough net.
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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:52 pm

jeemie wrote:
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Whiz took himself out of the running when he got the Arizona gig.

In retrospect, not sure the Rooneys cast a wide enough net.
It's not hard to imagine Tomlin interviewing well.

And I think Deuce was probably tripping over himself thinking he found another Cowher. That Tomlin may have been a bit too green or not ready didn't matter, because the roster and coaching staffs were so stacked Tomlin had several years of on-the-job apprenticeship.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Sat Nov 01, 2025 4:24 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:52 pm
jeemie wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:49 pm
Whiz took himself out of the running when he got the Arizona gig.

In retrospect, not sure the Rooneys cast a wide enough net.
It's not hard to imagine Tomlin interviewing well.

And I think Deuce was probably tripping over himself thinking he found another Cowher. That Tomlin may have been a bit too green or not ready didn't matter, because the roster and coaching staffs were so stacked Tomlin had several years of on-the-job apprenticeship.
It’s funny it was florio who pushed for Tomlin before he took the Steelers job. Childress was being looked at for firing to keep jibbs in Minnesota

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:35 pm

I suspect Tomlin is one of those guys who will coach well into their 70s

The Rooneys are NEVER gonna get rid of him either

He does EXACTLY what they want him to

Eternally keep the heat off of them for their malfeasance and indifference

And

Yuck it up in the media just enough that all the Charlie Brown fans eternally believe THIS is the year they are finally gonna kick that football
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Post by langer » Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:19 am

The depths of the most incredible cynicism arrives at how this team is constructed.

Someone said the team supports 100 Rooneys, probably SDT. I believe that, nice SDT, and how that impacts the decisions they make.

Dan built it over many years so that it could do that.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by 955876 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:43 am

And this team could still support those 100 Rooney’s even if they ran a modern offense and actually schemed the defense rather than relying on extraordinary individual effort.

This team is lazy. From top to bottom. Super evident and n that dipshit Rooney saying fans should be happy because they used to be good.

Fuck off with that bullshit.
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Post by CoolShades » Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:02 am

Gonzo wrote:
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sound oddly familiar !

https://steelersdepot.com/2025/10/nothi ... struggles/
I especially like the quote from tWatt in the 3rd paragraph.

“Things of that nature”.

Fuck you, TJ, you Tomlin simp. You’ll never win a playoff game here. Here’s to hoping you have to wait a good long time before you get your ticket to Canton. Between you, sCam and Mediocre Mike, I cant think of 3 less deserving clowns to get in.

If any of these 3 get in before LC Greenwood, they should shut down that place.
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Post by stillthere » Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:31 am

langer wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 8:34 am
955876 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:51 am
Gonzo wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:49 am


i would think that after the hold outs - clips out there of the team defense captains mailing it in on a few plays can't sit well. all while seeing cam, mike and tj repeat the same mindless BS after games.

i remain skeptical but it is possible that this veteran re-tooling was one last chance for tomlin to put the blame on execution as opposed to his Plan and lack of leadership and development.
Those cunts should get tarred & feathered for their offseason whining bout needing to get paid more.

I’d trade them both right now.
No kidding. It's an object lesson.

They threw tantrums about their calue, and more power to them, get the money.

But then jog around on the field, and doing a stupid ass sack dance while the team is falling apart.

Just not a good look. I notice they team up JJ Watt with his brother. Maybe that't a request from Steelers PR.

Gotta keep a positive spin on everything.
He is a first year color guy (pretty entertaining at it).
He gets assigned low to mid tier games. Which is what Pittsburgh plays in now.

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Post by .Kodiak » Sun Nov 02, 2025 11:01 am

CoolShades wrote:
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I especially like the quote from tWatt in the 3rd paragraph.

“Things of that nature”.
Apparently, Tomlin's superpower is placating stars.

I was disappointed Ben didn't push himself harder or challenge Tomlin, publicly. It's even worse with TJ. But WHO wouldn't want to play for Tomlin? Turns out, guys who want to win championships.

Yep, #1 fan of 7 here. He got even fatter and lazier than his HC. Might have been the GOAT with a real HC instead of the fraud.

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Post by RealSwiss » Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:40 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:00 am
sound oddly familiar !

https://steelersdepot.com/2025/10/nothi ... struggles/
He uses "obvious" and "things of that nature". The Tomlin distortion field is already embedded.

Sad.

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Post by 955876 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:16 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Sun Nov 02, 2025 11:01 am
CoolShades wrote:
Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:02 am
I especially like the quote from tWatt in the 3rd paragraph.

“Things of that nature”.
Apparently, Tomlin's superpower is placating stars.

I was disappointed Ben didn't push himself harder or challenge Tomlin, publicly. It's even worse with TJ. But WHO wouldn't want to play for Tomlin? Turns out, guys who want to win championships.

Yep, #1 fan of 7 here. He got even fatter and lazier than his HC. Might have been the GOAT with a real HC instead of the fraud.
I started saying this quite a few years before Ben retired.

He was getting by on his natural talent. Needed to get into better shape and become and even bigger student of the game.

Being in an offense that challenged him more might have helped too.
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