A few Questions about our Steelers.

[steelmann58]

I am curious can the Steelers actually trade Mike Tomlin after the season ? 2. Do the Steelers try to Resign AR? 3 if Tomlin Stays how many Coaches are let go ?

[Stlcrtn1974]

1. They can but they won't.
2. If they are smart, they won't.
3. I would say Austin, but probably none.

[Steelperch]

1. They can but they won't.
2. If they are smart, they won't.
3. I would say Austin, but probably none.

1. They can get a haul for Tomlin from a team like the Jets or Giants, but won’t do it in a million years. This is the #1 way to fix the franchise. Get picks and hire a hot young OC as your next HC.

2. We’ve gone through 3 washed up HOF QBs over 9 years and never won a playoff game. Gut the roster of old fucks and rebuild!

3. They will, just like in past years, talk tough about major changes and then do the absolute minimum. Maybe Tomlin dumps his DC in name only and replaces him with another yes man.

[steelmann58]

I would love to trade Tomlin hopefully art gets an offer he can’t refuse. I done with old retreads want to see how Howard plays. I agree Tomlin will promote from within because he scared to hire good guys

[steelmann58]

Hopefully if they hire a new HC is an offensive mind type of guy who would be scared to hire quality coaches

[955876]

1. They can but they won't.
2. If they are smart, they won't.
3. I would say Austin, but probably none.

1. They can get a haul for Tomlin from a team like the Jets or Giants, but won’t do it in a million years. This is the #1 way to fix the franchise. Get picks and hire a hot young OC as your next HC.

2. We’ve gone through 3 washed up HOF QBs over 9 years and never won a playoff game. Gut the roster of old fucks and rebuild!

3. They will, just like in past years, talk tough about major changes and then do the absolute minimum. Maybe Tomlin dumps his DC in name only and replaces him with another yes man.

Yep

[steelmann58]

I would like to get a coach like the Hoosiers have

[tbsteel]

Why would anyone want any changes? We're losing fewer games than we win. That's called upward trajectory. Don't try and fix something that ain't broke.

[.Kodiak]

1. They can get a haul for Tomlin from a team like the Jets or Giants

Would they? People have been saying for years that if Tomlin was available, he'd have a job in 5 minutes. But that's hard to reconcile with the Festivus pole that is his coaching tree.

I could see hiring Tomlin to appease a disinterested fan base, but not paying top dollar or giving away a bundle in trade. Then he'll flop, and be out of the league in 3 years.

And Tomlin is no dummy. He's NOT approving a trade to a basement franchise where his fraudulence will be fully exposed.

[Deebo]

1. They can get a haul for Tomlin from a team like the Jets or Giants

Would they? People have been saying for years that if Tomlin was available, he'd have a job in 5 minutes. But that's hard to reconcile with the Festivus pole that is his coaching tree.

I could see hiring Tomlin to appease a disinterested fan base, but not paying top dollar or giving away a bundle in trade. Then he'll flop, and be out of the league in 3 years.

And Tomlin is no dummy. He's NOT approving a trade to a basement franchise where his fraudulence will be fully exposed.

Here is the LARGEST factor why Tomlin won't be let go: Art is a cheap fucker. He will refuse to pay for a coach that is no longer employed.
This is why they let contracts expired, because the alternative is eating money and he won't do that.

[.Kodiak]

Here is the LARGEST factor why Tomlin won't be let go: Art is a cheap fucker. He will refuse to pay for a coach that is no longer employed.
This is why they let contracts expired, because the alternative is eating money and he won't do that.

They'd be off the hook in a trade, but paying Tomlin $20M isn't going to help the trade value.

Also pretty sure Tomlin has a no-trade clause. Maybe a top team might think he could get them a SB, and be willing to part with picks with a loaded roster. And that's the only situation Tomlin would go to. But that's kind of a unicorn - PIT job really only became available because Cowher decided to retire. The only thing comparable to what Tomlin inherited was Gruden going to Tampa with a loaded roster, and then getting benefit of playing his former team in the SB (knowing how to stop that offense and having the defense to do it). And Barry Switzer (whom as soon as DAL realized he was a coattail rider he was gone).

[K_C_]

Tomlin is in his 19th year as a head coach.

He isn't going to coach much longer and he isn't coaching anywhere except Pittsburgh.

IF this season flounders and the NHALS finally dies, the new narrative will be; "Mike Tomlin has only had 1 losing season in almost 20 years. He deserves the chance to rebuild the Steelers with a young franchise QB."

Rodgers will either retire or will go to Minnesota if the Steelers miss the playoffs or squeak in and get blown out.

Tomlin will then likely hang around 1 more year to see if he can get the Steelers turned around and can win a playoff game with the new, hopefully franchise QB.

If 2026 is another massive failure, Tomlin will hang 'em up. I don't even think he'll head into the broadcast booth like Cowher. I think Tomlin will simply disappear.

[Gonzo]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

[LakecrestSteeler]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longevity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

Pretty accurate I believe.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

Unfortunately, I read this disappointing truth too; no way he gets pushed out with the 2026 draft being held in Pittsburgh!

[955876]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

Unfortunately, I read this disappointing truth too; no way he gets pushed out with the 2026 draft being held in Pittsburgh!

Dunce will do everything he can to give his fraudulent coach another 1st round QB because he’s too fucking dumb to realize Jibbs is going to ruin/waste him.

Buuuuut stability babaaaay.

Dunce’s pee-pee is probably already erect to the thought of Jibba’s bug eyed smug fucking face being blasted all over the networks on draft day.

Mike Tomlin, the diversity hire who’s never had a losing season is about to get a shiny new toy at QB.

The narrative is going to be nauseating and will be on full display that night.

Our only hope at this point is that the behind the scenes powers that be that manipulate this league will decide it’s been too long since a black HC has won a Super Bowl and we start getting all kinds of favorable breaks.

This cunt will be here next year and the year after at minimum.

Hopefully Dunce grows a pair and at least forces Jibbs to upgrade his coordinators and allow them to do their job.

[K_C_]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

If Tomlin were worried about money (he already has more money than he’ll ever be able to spend) then he could go the Brady route and go into the booth.

Tomlin has a huge ego and the NHALS is what drives him. If that goes away (and it might this year, we’ll see….that schedule is tough) then Tomlin will basically be a broken man. Tomlin is proud of never having a losing season and as much as I hate the man, it really is one helluva accomplishment.

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

Most coaches would probably hang on for a paycheck and I think Tomlin would be eager to rebound next season with a highly drafted QB, 2 shitty seasons in a row and Mikey T. might actually be fired if he doesn’t quit.

The Tomlin narrative in the media has changed drastically the last 5 years and that change began with the home playoff loss to the Browns.

[955876]

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

I think the “hammering” will be minor and fairly short-lived.

You watch, in very short order the narrative will move from NHALS to he’s only had 1 losing season.

Can almost guarantee it

[K_C_]

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

I think the “hammering” will be minor and fairly short-lived.

You watch, in very short order the narrative will move from NHALS to he’s only had 1 losing season.

Can almost guarantee it

Before that Browns home playoff loss, folks would shit themselves if you said Tomlin should be fired.

That was a long time ago and the narrative has changed dramatically. Stephen A. Smith is a Steelers fan and he has been saying for the last 3 years Tomlin and the Steelers each need a fresh start. Same with Colin Cowherd and even former Tomlin player and worshipper Ryan Clark.

After last season’s epic collapse, even Clark couldn’t defend Tomlin. NO ONE in the media defends Tomlin and I don’t see any fans anymore willing to use that stale; “who could we get that would be better?” horseshit.

Everyone is past it and if we have another epic collapse or Tomlin doesn’t continue his NHALS, oh my God are the calls for him to retire or for Mikey T. to be fired gonna get real loud.

[955876]

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

I think the “hammering” will be minor and fairly short-lived.

You watch, in very short order the narrative will move from NHALS to he’s only had 1 losing season.

Can almost guarantee it

Before that Browns home playoff loss, folks would shit themselves if you said Tomlin should be fired.

That was a long time ago and the narrative has changed dramatically. Stephen A. Smith is a Steelers fan and he has been saying for the last 3 years Tomlin and the Steelers each need a fresh start. Same with Colin Cowherd and even former Tomlin player and worshipper Ryan Clark.

After last season’s epic collapse, even Clark couldn’t defend Tomlin. NO ONE in the media defends Tomlin and I don’t see any fans anymore willing to use that stale; “who could we get that would be better?” horseshit.

Everyone is past it and if we have another epic collapse or Tomlin doesn’t continue his NHALS, oh my God are the calls for him to retire or for Mikey T. to be fired gonna get real loud.

I hope so. Will be happy to be wrong here.

Which is why I absolutely LOVE the games we get embarrassed in.

Way more enjoyable hearing Jibba getting bashed than the praise you hear after some meaningless win. Especially when we all know the team is going to come out flatter than a smashed pancake the following week by some 2 win team sucking fumes.

[Gonzo]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

If Tomlin were worried about money (he already has more money than he’ll ever be able to spend) then he could go the Brady route and go into the booth.

Tomlin has a huge ego and the NHALS is what drives him. If that goes away (and it might this year, we’ll see….that schedule is tough) then Tomlin will basically be a broken man. Tomlin is proud of never having a losing season and as much as I hate the man, it really is one helluva accomplishment.

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

Most coaches would probably hang on for a paycheck and I think Tomlin would be eager to rebound next season with a highly drafted QB, 2 shitty seasons in a row and Mikey T. might actually be fired if he doesn’t quit.

The Tomlin narrative in the media has changed drastically the last 5 years and that change began with the home playoff loss to the Browns.

You just said everything and nothing
20m is still a lot and he isn’t old. He likes being HC … who wouldn’t for that pay and it’s his life and his career
The statement that he has enough money doesn’t appear to be a thing in this world
I am sure he is proud of his accomplishments and to an extent he should be
He is likely also proud of doing it all with one team
One day he may move along but I don’t see it being anytime soon and and if Rooney did decide he needs to go he will be allowed to quit first and do it gracefully

[K_C_]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

If Tomlin were worried about money (he already has more money than he’ll ever be able to spend) then he could go the Brady route and go into the booth.

Tomlin has a huge ego and the NHALS is what drives him. If that goes away (and it might this year, we’ll see….that schedule is tough) then Tomlin will basically be a broken man. Tomlin is proud of never having a losing season and as much as I hate the man, it really is one helluva accomplishment.

If Tomlin ends up with a losing record, not only will fans and media be hammering him, the one thing Tomlin has to hang his hat on will be gone.

Most coaches would probably hang on for a paycheck and I think Tomlin would be eager to rebound next season with a highly drafted QB, 2 shitty seasons in a row and Mikey T. might actually be fired if he doesn’t quit.

The Tomlin narrative in the media has changed drastically the last 5 years and that change began with the home playoff loss to the Browns.

You just said everything and nothing
20m is still a lot and he isn’t old. He likes being HC … who wouldn’t for that pay and it’s his life and his career
The statement that he has enough money doesn’t appear to be a thing in this world
I am sure he is proud of his accomplishments and to an extent he should be
He is likely also proud of doing it all with one team
One day he may move along but I don’t see it being anytime soon and and if Rooney did decide he needs to go he will be allowed to quit first and do it gracefully

Cowher wasn't super old when he quit coaching. Obviously his wife was ill and he was burn out. Cowher was also only 1 year removed from winning a Super Bowl. Cowher could have taken a few years off and returned to coaching. He was rumored year after year to be someone's new coach and never returned.

Tomlin hasn't fielded a Super Bowl level team in nearly a decade. Sort of like Russell Wilson (who ESPN was debating today if Russ had "played his way out of the Hall of Fame") the more Tomlin coaches, the worse he looks. As I stated earlier, 5 years ago if you mentioned Tomlin should be fired, people's heads would fucking explode.

Those heads don't explode anymore. The vast, vast majority of Steelers fans want Tomlin fired. I used to see plenty of Tomlin defenders on Facebook who I would go at it with. There literally aren't any Tomlin defenders left on Facebook, here or really anywhere you look. The media turned against Tomlin years ago.

Tomlin has 1 thing going for him. 1 thing he can hang his hat on in Pittsburgh and that very possibly could end this season. Even if the NHALS continues, nobody will give a fuck if he doesn't win a playoff game. Sure, 20 million is still a lot of cash but other coaches have walked away from big contracts. Again, Tomlin's legacy means a lot to him and with every passing season, much like Russell Wilson, Tomlin's legacy tarnishes further. After last season, Tomlin's legacy reminded me of my old pal Dave Reed's green Plymouth Duster, that he had a gold door installed on one side and it was tied to the inside to keep it from flying off.

Every single year Tomlin remains coaching the Steelers and falls apart before or quickly during playoff time, it's a gigantic dent in Tomlin's legacy and the guy isn't stupid. He can't go to another franchise because he would be fired after only a year or 2. He would be figured out quickly. Mikey T. either continues coaching....AND LOSING....in Pittsburgh, or he moves up into the booth or rides off into the sunset.

That might sound like everything and nothing to you, but that is Mike Tomlin's reality......and it's going exactly like Russell Wilson's descent into shittiness.

[Gonzo]

20m is 20m
Cowher got, and was built for, a TV gig much easier than the grind of coaching. Tomlin isnt getting that
If Tomlin never had a winning season again he could still coach 10 more years and he will go to the HoF based on what he has already done and his legacy as a 30 year Steelers coach.
10 years (or however many) and 200m has a way of making folks rethink "legacy" and again ... he is going to Canton no matter what ... book it now.
If he does leaves anytime soon it will be because Rooney said enough is enough but let him leave on his own terms
if tomlin truly was only concerned about legacy he would have changed what he does long ago -- he hasnt because what he does is built and made to create longetivity and maximize cash flow -- a goal he shares with the Owner

but we will see -- I do agree the shine is wearing off and I dont expect it to get better or fixed ... so we should know fairly soon (extension time) if he or rooney have had enough

or maybe, with some luck, there will be a clash .-- rebuild with a young QB or continue trying to recycle veterans and there will be a mutual decision to part ways if the Team forces a full re-start. I can agree that Tomlin may refuse that path but I also can see him simply getting paid as long as possible.

[.Kodiak]

Reports last year were Tomlin still loves coaching and has no plans to retire any time soon.

Might get less fun for him as the criticism grows.

Tomlin may have NHALS, but his growing list of uniquely horrific failures is more impressive.

[K_C_]

20m is 20m
Cowher got, and was built for, a TV gig much easier than the grind of coaching. Tomlin isnt getting that
If Tomlin never had a winning season again he could still coach 10 more years and he will go to the HoF based on what he has already done and his legacy as a 30 year Steelers coach.
10 years (or however many) and 200m has a way of making folks rethink "legacy" and again ... he is going to Canton no matter what ... book it now.
If he does leaves anytime soon it will be because Rooney said enough is enough but let him leave on his own terms
if tomlin truly was only concerned about legacy he would have changed what he does long ago -- he hasnt because what he does is built and made to create longetivity and maximize cash flow -- a goal he shares with the Owner

but we will see -- I do agree the shine is wearing off and I dont expect it to get better or fixed ... so we should know fairly soon (extension time) if he or rooney have had enough

or maybe, with some luck, there will be a clash .-- rebuild with a young QB or continue trying to recycle veterans and there will be a mutual decision to part ways if the Team forces a full re-start. I can agree that Tomlin may refuse that path but I also can see him simply getting paid as long as possible.

I don't think we know if Tomlin is built for TV or not. Tomlin is a far, far more colorful speaker than Cowher ever was. Tomlin is a lot of things during his press conferences but he sure as fuck is never boring. Sometimes I think his ridiculous "Tomlinisms" is why people held firm for years that Tomlin was some sort of genius who knew what he was doing and would restore the Steelers to greatness. That obviously hasn't happened but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Tomlin getting huge offers to join a broadcasting team or to be a studio analyst. Look at the dudes doing it now. Not a single one of them was as quotable as a player or coach as Tomlin. The guy can bullshit with the best of them. Ask @swissvale72

While you are probably right that Tomlin is a lock for Canton, people said the same thing about Russell Wilson a few years back and he has very, very possibly played his way out of the Hall. Could Tomlin coach his way out of the Hall? Probably not, but his team melting down when it matters most is nothing new to anyone (its become a yearly tradition like Christmas) who watches football and Tomlin seems hell bent on being known for mediocrity.

I'm not so sure Tomlin leaves on his own terms anymore. I was certain of that a few years ago. I'm not so certain of that anymore and If I'm Mikey T, he better damn well find a way to save the NHALS or Jesus Christ are things going to get real ugly. Publicly ugly.

[Deebo]

20m is 20m
Cowher got, and was built for, a TV gig much easier than the grind of coaching. Tomlin isnt getting that
If Tomlin never had a winning season again he could still coach 10 more years and he will go to the HoF based on what he has already done and his legacy as a 30 year Steelers coach.
10 years (or however many) and 200m has a way of making folks rethink "legacy" and again ... he is going to Canton no matter what ... book it now.
If he does leaves anytime soon it will be because Rooney said enough is enough but let him leave on his own terms
if tomlin truly was only concerned about legacy he would have changed what he does long ago -- he hasnt because what he does is built and made to create longetivity and maximize cash flow -- a goal he shares with the Owner

but we will see -- I do agree the shine is wearing off and I dont expect it to get better or fixed ... so we should know fairly soon (extension time) if he or rooney have had enough

or maybe, with some luck, there will be a clash .-- rebuild with a young QB or continue trying to recycle veterans and there will be a mutual decision to part ways if the Team forces a full re-start. I can agree that Tomlin may refuse that path but I also can see him simply getting paid as long as possible.

I don't think we know if Tomlin is built for TV or not. Tomlin is a far, far more colorful speaker than Cowher ever was. Tomlin is a lot of things during his press conferences but he sure as fuck is never boring. Sometimes I think his ridiculous "Tomlinisms" is why people held firm for years that Tomlin was some sort of genius who knew what he was doing and would restore the Steelers to greatness. That obviously hasn't happened but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Tomlin getting huge offers to join a broadcasting team or to be a studio analyst. Look at the dudes doing it now. Not a single one of them was as quotable as a player or coach as Tomlin. The guy can bullshit with the best of them. Ask @swissvale72

While you are probably right that Tomlin is a lock for Canton, people said the same thing about Russell Wilson a few years back and he has very, very possibly played his way out of the Hall. Could Tomlin coach his way out of the Hall? Probably not, but his team melting down when it matters most is nothing new to anyone (its become a yearly tradition like Christmas) who watches football and Tomlin seems hell bent on being known for mediocrity.

I'm not so sure Tomlin leaves on his own terms anymore. I was certain of that a few years ago. I'm not so certain of that anymore and If I'm Mikey T, he better damn well find a way to save the NHALS or Jesus Christ are things going to get real ugly. Publicly ugly.

Well said.

Tomlin is a snake oil salesman. ANd back in the day, once those dudes got figured out they'd get their asses kicked or worse.

[gojira5150]

IF this season flounders and the NHALS finally dies, the new narrative will be; "Mike Tomlin has only had 1 losing season in almost 20 years. He deserves the chance to rebuild the Steelers with a young franchise QB."

NO Effing way do I want Jibba anywhere near a Rookie FQB. He had a prime Elite Ben and did absolutely nothing with Big Ben. Jibba will destroy any confidence a Rookie FQB will have coming in.

Jibba is so focused on NHALS and dumping all money into his "Historic Defense

Before drafting a Rookie FQB, let's see what Will Howard can do. This dumbass team should have signed Sam Darnold and gave him weapons. Dude has been ballin

[anpsteel]

Tomlin is Not going to just walk away
He gets paid 20m a year and as long as the Steelers owners want him he will coach
Why wouldn’t he … it’s like a QB making 20m+ a year … he isn’t leaving until you make him
He isn’t going to TV …. That’s another bullshit Tomlin myth (that he would be good on tv)
Also … longetivity in one job is another way to Canton …
He isn’t leaving unless Rooney make him leave

Unfortunately, I read this disappointing truth too; no way he gets pushed out with the 2026 draft being held in Pittsburgh!

I think this is Tomlin‘s last season

Unless


They win a couple playoff games and get close to the Super Bowl

Then maybe they convince Rogers to come back for one more shot


Other than that, this is it


I say this because of all of the obvious components, which include all of the bizarrely Un Steeler like free agency moves, loading up of draft picks for next season

And then the more subtle not so obvious

In conjunction with all the draft picks, the draft is being held in Pittsburgh. What a perfect time to launch a new coaching staff and team.

Also, Tomlin has specifically stated he is not interested in rebuilding with a rookie quarterback (this was as part of a press conference a couple years ago)


I do recognize that there are two years left on his contract, but I think they would move him into a consulting role. I don’t think any future role would involve anything other than possibly being a resource for young players and personal development.


Lastly, I recognize this goes against all things we’ve seen in the past


But that is exactly why I think this is the end


Fingers, toes, and all extremities crossed

[K_C_]

IF this season flounders and the NHALS finally dies, the new narrative will be; "Mike Tomlin has only had 1 losing season in almost 20 years. He deserves the chance to rebuild the Steelers with a young franchise QB."

NO Effing way do I want Jibba anywhere near a Rookie FQB. He had a prime Elite Ben and did absolutely nothing with Big Ben. Jibba will destroy any confidence a Rookie FQB will have coming in.

Jibba is so focused on NHALS and dumping all money into his "Historic Defense

Before drafting a Rookie FQB, let's see what Will Howard can do. This dumbass team should have signed Sam Darnold and gave him weapons. Dude has been ballin

I think Tomlin getting the chance to coach a high draft choice QB is going to depend on how this season ends up. If I had to bet on it, I think Aaron Rodgers is already regretting his decision to sign with the Steelers and Rodgers is always a threat to go off the rails publicly and if the rest of this season falls apart, good luck to Tomlin. He's gonna need it because Rodgers will not hold back AND he has a public platform to make Mikey T. look like a total fucking imbecile.

Things have to turn around for this team quick and who knows, maybe they'll start winning again. Tomlin's teams have been left for dead before (Pickett's rookie year for one) and they somehow finished strong. That better happen and they have to beat teams like the Bengals and Browns. They lose this week and I think a free fall is coming.

As for Will Howard, don't hold your breath that he ever sees the field in Pittsburgh. The Steelers will draft a QB, likely in the first round (Rodgers will likely bolt for retirement or to Minnesota) but Mason looks to be entrenched as the back up. Will Howard will need to play incredible football next preseason to even have a shot to make the team at all. I do not think anyone in the Steelers front office sees Will Howard as the long term answer, but who knows.

Agree on Darnold but Jesus H. Christ was he awful in the playoff game last January. So bad, the Vikings assumed he remembered he was Sam Darnold. Looks great this year though.

[lifelongsteel]

Let's speak Tomlin to the Giants into existence.

Rooney can do his Mara buddies a "favor".

Tomlin gets an up and coming D front + a QB + Skat and gets to potentially be the savior

Tomlin gets a change of scenery, one where his wife can do more media hits with her fashion line.

Tomlin can "maybe" leave with NHALS "in" Pittsburgh.

Steelers get a top 5 pick, move up to #1 and take a QB, and decide to finally hire Russ Grimm (Kidding. I think)