Thursday night game

[Baltostiller]

These are two pretty good teams but the Rams uniforms are beautiful classics and the Seahawks are fucking awful.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

yeah it looks like some kid got into the Seattle locker room and tried to make paper snowflakes out of the jerseys

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

The irredescent helmets are Down Right cool

[Steelperch]

Rams are the best team in the league.
Darnold is still ass.
Seattle uniforms are shit.

[smithessmokin]

I feel like we should press charges for identity fraud against the Seahawks, trying to look like the Oregon Ducks out there.

[jeemie]

When the games get big, Sam Darnold gets very very small.

The Rams right now look like a juggernaut.

[Steelperch]

When the games get big, Sam Darnold gets very very small.

The Rams right now look like a juggernaut.

Seeing ghosts again

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Craziest 2pt ever. Never seen that in 50 yrs of watching no fun league

[Baltostiller]

Holy shit that was the most bizarre 2 point conversion ever!!

[Steelperch]

I thought you can’t advance a fumble into the end zone unless the fumbling player recovers it. Maybe that’s different on a backwards pass?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

I thought you can’t advance a fumble into the end zone unless the fumbling player recovers it. Maybe that’s different on a backwards pass?

That’s what they indicated. Overhead view showed it backward Crazy

[Steel Ubaldo]

Amazing choke in progress by Rams

[Orangesteel]

I thought you can’t advance a fumble into the end zone unless the fumbling player recovers it. Maybe that’s different on a backwards pass?

That’s what they indicated. Overhead view showed it backward Crazy

Complete botch job by the refs. If it was a backwards pass then Darnold was the fumbler and is the only one that could advance it and score.

We aren’t watching sports. We are watching manufactured entertainment

[Steeldrama]

I thought you can’t advance a fumble into the end zone unless the fumbling player recovers it. Maybe that’s different on a backwards pass?

That’s what they indicated. Overhead view showed it backward Crazy

Complete botch job by the refs. If it was a backwards pass then Darnold was the fumbler and is the only one that could advance it and score.

We aren’t watching sports. We are watching manufactured entertainment

If you or your tinfoil hat could get a message to the league asking to manufacture some entertainment the Steelers way I’d sure appreciate it

[Orangesteel]

Lots of chatter about that play online…

- there was a definite whistle that blew which happened prior to the ball being picked up

- also arguments that a backward pass is not a fumble. Which is strange; then what is it? A backwards pass? If a defensive player picks up a backward pass is it not a fumble recovery?

Shit is so bizarre

[Deebo]

- also arguments that a backward pass is not a fumble. Which is strange; then what is it? A backwards pass? If a defensive player picks up a backward pass is it not a fumble recovery?

Shit is so bizarre

The throwing motion doesn't matter. The only thing that matters if the ball goes forward or backward. So I can hand it off backwards, throw it backwards, shovel it backwards or shit it out my ass backwards. All of those conditions meet the definition of "not a forward pass"

[jeemie]

When the games get big, Sam Darnold gets very very small.

The Rams right now look like a juggernaut.

Seeing ghosts again

And then the Rams choked and the refs got involved and now I don't know what to think about who the best team in the NFL might be...

[shellwagnerblount]

When the games get big, Sam Darnold gets very very small.

The Rams right now look like a juggernaut.

Seeing ghosts again

And then the Rams choked and the refs got involved and now I don't know what to think about who the best team in the NFL might be...

Same...I think the Rams like to go for the kill too much. But I admire that because the U shaped offense has turned me into an angry old man..lol Stafford was equally great and WTF was that tonight..that punt return just turned that game around completely.

[CKSteeler]

I don't know how people are defending the two point call. I like many others have lost track of all the things they've changed with the game but that play call raises several questions.

You can't advance a fumble which a backward pass technically is or should be.

If the play is whistled dead and they called it an incomplete pass, then that at least used to be non-reviewable because even \if it was a mistake, the whistles influenced the result of the play as players think the action is over. So even obvious fumbles that were ruled down couldn't be overturned.

And then you have the aspect of the play where another player isn't supposed to be able to advance the fumble. I do believe this is different with the endzone for...reasons. The 2006 Pats/Colts AFCCG had Jeff Saturday fall on a fumble in the endzone and score if I remember correctly. So that aspect I think they got right based on the rules as I understand them.

Conspiracy or not, it's painfully obvious that NFL fans are completely lost in the sauce with regards to whatever rules they're using at best. I've repeated it ad nauseum, but they clearly clall things differently between games. Sometimes within the same game as we saw against Baltimore. The replay standard of clear and obvious to overturn was a dead letter a decade or more ago as they began to analyze plays frame by frame.

Constantly changing rules at the rate this league does, not actually following your own rule book, inconsistent standards even when it's the same people making the decisions such as in replay, the number of back-breaking subjective judgement calls they've given the refs to make (or abuse) etc.

The end result of this would be greater controversy and suspicion even if we didn't have the internet and social media access we do today. Officiating controversies always existed in every sport but the people who claim it was always this bad are lying to your and/or themselves.

[CKSteeler]

I'm a Steelers fan who is apathetic to the team because of Tomlin, but I genuinely used to love football.

I am absolutely baffled that people that the sports has actually managed to increase in popularity with all this going on. I've lost nearly all interest in any non-Steelers game. At best I'm a passive observer slightly curious and drawn to the *constant* controversies over calls like this or other stupidity.

I feel like the product on the field is objectively worse in every respect. Even from a skill/talent perspective. Yea, the athletes keep getting more athletic, but they just aren't as experienced or as polished as their predecessors when I was growing up. And then you add in the fact that it very often feels like the games are grossly over officiated and that they've juiced the game in favor of offense...

I don't get any of it. But the numbers watching indicate I'm a small, insignificant minority with this opinion.

[CKSteeler]

You have the same asshats who defend everything about the league because they're the worst form of consumers and people in general (the bootlicker pretend know-it-alls).

Just watched the play a few times again. It's so painfully clear that both teams had stopped playing because the whistle blew. It was not a bang-bang recovery where the whistle had no impact. By the rulebook there's no way in hell they should have awarded possession to the Seahawks. It's almost as if they realized they fucked up ruling it a forward pass and then weren't sure how to handle correcting/spotting it? That's a generous interpretation of what transpired.

I'd be so damn pissed as a Rams. Potentially season-altering call right there. Your defense hears a whistle, stops playing just like the offense. Some WR picks the ball up to hand it back to the refs and gets awarded a TD. Like WTF is this?

[swissvale72]

Yeah, that was some bullshit. In the term you've used, CK, and I absolutely agree with is grossly over officiated. All that said I'm as much into NFL football as a whole as ever probably because I'm retired and have nothing the fuck else to do, other than worried about medical issues that come with aging lol

[CKSteeler]

People are going with the argument that the takeaway is always go for the ball. Which is true and what players are already supposed to be coached to do.

But the play was whistled dead and everyone on the field thought the player was over. I don't even think that was the thought process used by the Seattle WR to pick the ball up. Is the scenario of a Ram defender starting a scrum or hitting the Seahawk to dislodge the ball there AFTER the whistle and getting flagged (and incessantly attacked as dirty) a realistic solution to this application of the rules?

It's a judgement call. The entire ruling depends on the whether this was recovered in the "immediate" aftermath of the whistle/play. This rule exists for a good reason because clearly recovered fumbles were being called dead because of early whistles.

Taking that sound logic meant for plays where the whistle clearly didn't impact the result of the play and then applying it to a case where the whistle clearly signaled to both teams that the play was dead and over is asinine. It's a misapplication of what was a necessary rule change. But what else is new with the NFL.