AR Returning ?

[swissvale72]

Choice is with AR one one Year or Willis or Murray on multi years deals.

Joe Flacco. Gives them that steady vet presence if Howard flops, and Flacco perfectly good with starting out as the backup.

Or, I don't know, maybe a Mariota or Garoppolo. But not sure either is much of an upgrade over Rudolph.


Again, I'll be shocked if Rodgers wants to run it back as a bridge QB. He ain't getting out of bed to be a backup QB, at any point next year.

Dif between "bridge" and "backup." Right… Rogers isn't coming back to be a back up. I think he odds are will be back as a bridge for another year seeing what they have with Howard. Rogers reportedly love just about every aspect of being in Pittsburgh… And I think he'll like it a whole lot more with Mike McCarthy, running the offense rather than Arthur fucking Smith.

[swissvale72]

Per Aditi whatshername on Pittsburgh talk radio, her sources tell her that the chances of Rogers coming back are minimal.

[Jobu]

Per Aditi whatshername on Pittsburgh talk radio, her sources tell her that the chances of Rogers coming back are minimal.

Yeah, I heard that. Hope she’s right, but I doubt it.

[swissvale72]

Per Aditi whatshername on Pittsburgh talk radio, her sources tell her that the chances of Rogers coming back are minimal.

Yeah, I heard that. Hope she’s right, but I doubt it.

FWIW... I hope she's not right. I still think Steelers are best served by having AR return for one more year in transition under center to Will Howard… Who I think will pan out for them

[CKSteeler]

Fowler is also saying Rodgers is uncertain and that a decision may take months. So the org supposedly gave him a month to make his decision. Will be interesting to see if they stand by that or cave.

[.Kodiak]

Fowler is also saying Rodgers is uncertain and that a decision may take months. So the org supposedly gave him a month to make his decision. Will be interesting to see if they stand by that or cave.

I'll be really surprised if Rodgers re-signs. If you're already afraid of getting hit, why would you want to play for PIT or 20-some other teams that have no chance at a SB?

And why does PIT want a guy who doesn't know if he even wants to be there?

[sowhat]

Fowler is also saying Rodgers is uncertain and that a decision may take months. So the org supposedly gave him a month to make his decision. Will be interesting to see if they stand by that or cave.

I'll be really surprised if Rodgers re-signs. If you're already afraid of getting hit, why would you want to play for PIT or 20-some other teams that have no chance at a SB?



And why does PIT want a guy who doesn't know if he even wants to be there?

rooney thinks .500 is good enough and rodger’s gives him that

[Deebo]

Fowler is also saying Rodgers is uncertain and that a decision may take months. So the org supposedly gave him a month to make his decision. Will be interesting to see if they stand by that or cave.

I'll be really surprised if Rodgers re-signs. If you're already afraid of getting hit, why would you want to play for PIT or 20-some other teams that have no chance at a SB?



And why does PIT want a guy who doesn't know if he even wants to be there?

rooney thinks .500 is good enough and rodger’s gives him that

Exactly.
Art the Moron thinks we're just on the verge of SB contention if we just get a competent QB. He's fucking delirious.

[swissvale72]

I'll be really surprised if Rodgers re-signs. If you're already afraid of getting hit, why would you want to play for PIT or 20-some other teams that have no chance at a SB?



And why does PIT want a guy who doesn't know if he even wants to be there?

rooney thinks .500 is good enough and rodger’s gives him that

Exactly.
Art the Moron thinks we're just on the verge of SB contention if we just get a competent QB. He's fucking delirious.

So what's the option?

[Jobu]

rooney thinks .500 is good enough and rodger’s gives him that

Exactly.
Art the Moron thinks we're just on the verge of SB contention if we just get a competent QB. He's fucking delirious.

So what's the option?

To get to the Super Bowl? Probably none out there. And if there is, it’s not currently identifiable.
One thing for sure…it isn’t 43 year old Aaron Rodgers. He was meh in 2025, he won’t be better in 2026.

[StillerDownSouth]

Exactly.
Art the Moron thinks we're just on the verge of SB contention if we just get a competent QB. He's fucking delirious.

So what's the option?

To get to the Super Bowl? Probably none out there. And if there is, it’s not currently identifiable.
One thing for sure…it isn’t 43 year old Aaron Rodgers. He was meh in 2025, he won’t be better in 2026.

Only option to get to Super Bowl contention is for Will Howard or a rookie drafted this year to be the second coming of Big Ben or Tom Brady and for them to hit on about 5-6 other draft picks and sign 2-3 quality to above quality free agents. I mean crazier things have happened, like for example, Sam Darnold just led a team the the Ship.

[Stlcrtn1974]

I really don't want to see Rodgers again. I definitely don't want to see fucking Malik Willis. I don't get alot of experts a placing him here. He had 1 good game against a shitty Ravens D and now he's the top free agent qb.

[Gonzo]

Fowler is also saying Rodgers is uncertain and that a decision may take months. So the org supposedly gave him a month to make his decision. Will be interesting to see if they stand by that or cave.

I'll be really surprised if Rodgers re-signs. If you're already afraid of getting hit, why would you want to play for PIT or 20-some other teams that have no chance at a SB?



And why does PIT want a guy who doesn't know if he even wants to be there?

rooney thinks .500 is good enough and rodger’s gives him that

that answer gets you a chicken dinner

[Gonzo]

brace yourselves for Kyler Murray

[Gonzo]

they have a better chance getting to the SB now or near future by playing will howard and he is either the Answer or they stink this year

AR IS NOT winning a SB for this team this year or any year. it's not possible with his current skill set on this team and as has been stated - especially not when he refuses to take hits.

howard's ranges is 3-13 to 13-3 with the bonus of what 3-13 gets you. but also knowing 3-13 is more likely than 13-3.
ARs is 8-9 to 10-7 and one and done if you make it and drafting in the 20s
Murray and Tua also boom or bust with bust more likely and expensive. but murray and AR have what Arts selling - false hope

the only thing Howard has going for him with rooney is he is Cheap.

THAT is the rooney rule/equation

Darnold was once the number 3 pick - he isn't some nobody. he had the talent but needed to learn and he started out on BAD teams and had the last two years the benefit of great QB coaching

[Gonzo]

and the other reason I want Howard to start is recent winning teams have shown - you build the team and then add the QB ... even like with Ben

so use the picks and build a modern Team - strong up front and can cover man to man. then add the QB. maybe it's Howard. or maybe you use ALLtbise picks this year to build a real team and add the QB in draft if you stink this year or a proper FA with promise later

not some old washed up name - rodgers ... or bullshit salvage project that never had a chance a fields, wilson, murray, tua, willis

[CKSteeler]

I think people are really missing the big picture here. The Steelers have an opportunity to recreate the team that beat them last in the Super Bowl. Older, slower, but also cheaper.

It worked in 2010. Why not 2026?

[steelmann58]

Just at least give him a shot to see if he is or not

[R_S]

For all hoping AR doesn't return, will you still be happy when they sign Kirk Cousins instead?

[Deebo]

For all hoping AR doesn't return, will you still be happy when they sign Kirk Cousins instead?

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Cousins and Arod are the same dog, just have different fleas.

[W&M_Steeler]

For all hoping AR doesn't return, will you still be happy when they sign Kirk Cousins instead?

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Cousins and Arod are the same dog, just have different fleas.

As I said in TB's thread, while I don't really want Rodgers or Cousins, I'd rather watch the old men than watch the Steelers waste the next few seasons on the fools' gold that is Malik Willis. How many Justin Fields / Anthony Richardson clones does the league need to see to figure out that glorified RBs who can't throw accurately and can't read a defense aren't going to accomplish anything? Even the best running QBs like Vick and Lamar never really accomplish much of anything once the playoffs come along. Let's give the one-read and run QB from Liberty $60 million because he looked half decent in a game where he came in as a back up! Doesn't make sense to me.

I also don't want the undersized sad sacks like Kyler or Tua.

It's a bad time to need a QB. But playing Rodgers while grooming a rookie behind him might be the least bad option.

[Gonzo]

For all hoping AR doesn't return, will you still be happy when they sign Kirk Cousins instead?

of course note -- but one has nothing to do with the other.
two tired old QBs that are no better than 9-8 and a lot of falling over and throwing balls away

[Gonzo]

For all hoping AR doesn't return, will you still be happy when they sign Kirk Cousins instead?

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Cousins and Arod are the same dog, just have different fleas.

As I said in TB's thread, while I don't really want Rodgers or Cousins, I'd rather watch the old men than watch the Steelers waste the next few seasons on the fools' gold that is Malik Willis. How many Justin Fields / Anthony Richardson clones does the league need to see to figure out that glorified RBs who can't throw accurately and can't read a defense aren't going to accomplish anything? Even the best running QBs like Vick and Lamar never really accomplish much of anything once the playoffs come along. Let's give the one-read and run QB from Liberty $60 million because he looked half decent in a game where he came in as a back up! Doesn't make sense to me.

I also don't want the undersized sad sacks like Kyler or Tua.

It's a bad time to need a QB. But playing Rodgers while grooming a rookie behind him might be the least bad option.

I do understand there is no good answer this year --I guess I just have a bias that I dont want to see Rodgers again .. we know what that looks like and its limits and at the end of the year, I really thought his aversion to getting hit was glaring and detrimental ... it was rather depressing to watch especially coupled with his penchant for blaming others

[W&M_Steeler]

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Cousins and Arod are the same dog, just have different fleas.

As I said in TB's thread, while I don't really want Rodgers or Cousins, I'd rather watch the old men than watch the Steelers waste the next few seasons on the fools' gold that is Malik Willis. How many Justin Fields / Anthony Richardson clones does the league need to see to figure out that glorified RBs who can't throw accurately and can't read a defense aren't going to accomplish anything? Even the best running QBs like Vick and Lamar never really accomplish much of anything once the playoffs come along. Let's give the one-read and run QB from Liberty $60 million because he looked half decent in a game where he came in as a back up! Doesn't make sense to me.

I also don't want the undersized sad sacks like Kyler or Tua.

It's a bad time to need a QB. But playing Rodgers while grooming a rookie behind him might be the least bad option.

I do understand there is no good answer this year --I guess I just have a bias that I dont want to see Rodgers again .. we know what that looks like and its limits and at the end of the year, I really thought his aversion to getting hit was glaring and detrimental ... it was rather depressing to watch especially coupled with his penchant for blaming others

My worst case is the Steelers sign a Willis or Richardson or Fields, they do just enough to contribute to achieving 9 wins a season, with a few flashy athletic plays here and there to make people rave about the "dual threat" and a few nice passes to get the fans talking about how close he is to "turning the corner" and becoming "elite" and the "total package." But the flashes are just that, and he never becomes a complete QB. Meanwhile, we're stuck with a bottom-10 starter for the better part of a decade waiting for him to finally develop into something but being too risk averse to go in a different direction.

At least Rodgers has a short shelf life. He's not going to be here 2 years from now.

[Gonzo]

I agree completely, as I said above, that I dont want WIllis, Tua, Murray, Fields etc .... and can live with a one year vet instead I guess. I would prefer they just run with Howard and some general back-up but do understand that Rooney is unlikely to do that.
Watching Rodgers at the end of the year was disappointing -- and really dont want to see that again, but .... just my opinion and my opinion doesnt matter

[W&M_Steeler]

I agree completely, as I said above, that I dont want WIllis, Tua, Murray, Fields etc .... and can live with a one year vet instead I guess. I would prefer they just run with Howard and some general back-up but do understand that Rooney is unlikely to do that.
Watching Rodgers at the end of the year was disappointing -- and really dont want to see that again, but .... just my opinion and my opinion doesnt matter

I agree that watching Rodgers hobble around for another season won't be very interesting or compelling football. But I bet he doesn't make it through the entire season, so at least we'd probably get a look at Howard or a rookie for a few games.

[.Kodiak]

I agree that watching Rodgers hobble around for another season won't be very interesting or compelling football. But I bet he doesn't make it through the entire season, so at least we'd probably get a look at Howard or a rookie for a few games.

My issue with Rodgers is this: will he quietly step aside Wk10 or so for Howard or possibly a rookie to play some games? Likely not, which is why running Rodgers back is a bad idea.

[W&M_Steeler]

I agree that watching Rodgers hobble around for another season won't be very interesting or compelling football. But I bet he doesn't make it through the entire season, so at least we'd probably get a look at Howard or a rookie for a few games.

My issue with Rodgers is this: will he quietly step aside Wk10 or so for Howard or possibly a rookie to play some games? Likely not, which is why running Rodgers back is a bad idea.

Like I said, Rodgers coming back isn't ideal. I just think there are worse possible worse outcomes for the long-term than Rodgers returning. Howard has proven nothing yet, and he hasn't even taken a snap in a pre-season game. No team in the league would go into the season with him penciled in as starter. I think Howard would naturally get some reps so long as he beats out Mason, as I doubt a 43 year old makes it through all 17 games.

[.Kodiak]

Again, my point is that Rodgers is not going to sit for a young guy to play some games. So unless you think Rodgers is all you need to win a SB, he's a non-option.

I agree they are not going into the season with Howard as the plan. But Howard is part of the plan, and that's not a plan Rodgers fits into.

[swissvale72]

I agree completely, as I said above, that I dont want WIllis, Tua, Murray, Fields etc .... and can live with a one year vet instead I guess. I would prefer they just run with Howard and some general back-up but do understand that Rooney is unlikely to do that.
Watching Rodgers at the end of the year was disappointing -- and really dont want to see that again, but .... just my opinion and my opinion doesnt matter

Rodgers was hardly "disappointing" in both Baltimore games and against Detroit.