So now the draft is a reason to shut schools

[Dan Smith--BYU]

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2026/0 ... nfl-draft/

lazy bastards

[Jobu]

Seems like a good, logical decision.

[sowhat]

one less day of indoctrination

[.Kodiak]

I've always said glorified babysitters. That's what the results indicate. No evidence of "good teachers" in test scores.

I don't think it will be very long before students get at least 75% of their learning from AI.


So, you know, keep getting every extra day off you can.....because soon you'll have all of them off.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

That would be fine except I know the teacher's union would still get paid for staying at home.

[Thrillsseeker]

Seems like a good, logical decision.

Very good decision and totally logical.

News: this just in!

They don’t even get the days off. Nor do they get “snow days” anymore. Kids go remote learning. Log on with their chrome books/laptops, and wham, no school missed.

No big deal at all. Makes sense to go remote for that shitshow.

[sowhat]

Seems like a good, logical decision.

Very good decision and totally logical.

News: this just in!

They don’t even get the days off. Nor do they get “snow days” anymore. Kids go remote learning. Log on with their chrome books/laptops, and walk, no school missed.

No big deal at all. Makes sense to go remote for that shitshow.

in michigan a day off is a day off. no remote learniggy

[alancac98]

I've always said glorified babysitters. That's what the results indicate. No evidence of "good teachers" in test scores.

I don't think it will be very long before students get at least 75% of their learning from AI.


So, you know, keep getting every extra day off you can.....because soon you'll have all of them off.

You pay your babysitters more per hour per child than you do teachers, so there's that. I'm a second grade teacher and in no way a glorified babysitter! In today's school environment, most people don't last a week! Society and psychology has wrecked schools, not to mention the Department of Ed's "dumbing down" principles for the last 40 years. Kids can do whatever the hell they want. Out of a class of 20, 15 ids are really good and want to learn. The other 5 are a mix of behavior problems with one or two kids in there that totally wreck the room, even physically. There are times we are told to vacate the room because a kid is having a meltdown. The new buzzword for administrators is "trauma"! The process to get a child evaluated for a learning disability or behavioral situation takes at least a year. We close hallways down so a kid can "calm" down. Parents could care less. They have no problem telling you that they have to take care of them when they are home, the kid is not their problem when they are at school - what kind of parenting is that. Parenting skills have completely eroded as electronics is the new "cope with your kid" strategy! Kindergarten kids have a third of the knowledge they did 20 years ago coming into elementary - mostly due to behaviors! Can't teach when you are so busy addressing this in the classroom. We'll keep the discussion away from how many babies are being born from mothers who are on drugs, smoke, drink etc...(can you imagine how a babies brain develops in the womb filled with meth?)

Let's talk curriculum - it sucks. Book companies are for the money. Some of their curriculum and how they want you to teach it is horrendous. Math has become a complete joke in elementary. The so-called strategies they want us to teach just create confusion. I was fortunate enough to point this out to my Superintendent one day when he popped into my room. He was an ex-high school math teacher that taught AP Calculus and couldn't figure out what they wanted the kids to do. Currently, I throw nearly half the curriculum away and do my own thing, but I have 32 years of teaching experience behind me. Young teachers are too afraid to do that! There was a very interesting article written by a gentlemen concerning the curriculum in schools. From internal documents from the Department of Education around 2000, it was clear to him that student learning was to be dumbed down. Publishers are throwing shit onto the wall making their curriculum meet a lower standard of learning and it shows in this country. But, the powers to be know more than we teachers do because after all, they were a student once! Teachers are handcuffed and that is why there is a huge teacher shortage right now.

There are a lot of problems in education, but teachers, well at least elementary teachers, just being glorified babysitters is not one of them. Yes, our results are horrible so it may look that way. We should mold our education and societal parenting after the Chinese! In China, the internet is state run. Huge filters are letting kids on only what the want them on. The internet comes on in the evening for only an hour or two, then is turned off. Students in the fast track path can access the internet for longer periods of time via a request through their teachers. At around age 10-12, kids are split into two tracks based on academic performance: a college track and a life track (I'm sure you can figure this out what each one means). Behavior is a complete non issue in their schools as the expectation are through the proverbial roof from not only the school but their parents.

As for the extra days off, please consider the security of children on the streets and in busses when 100's of thousands of "new" people are suddenly flooding our city and visiting the bars all day! Besides, that is above the pay grade of a teacher anyway.

Fun fact: In 1980 the Dept. of Ed. was created in Washington D.C.. Since then, the education of our children has seriously declined and continues to decline. I wonder why that is? The conspiracy theorist in me tells me that a dumber dependent society is easier to control than a smarter self-sufficient one.

Kodiak, what do you do for a living? I'm sure that you learned everything you know completely on your own without any help from a teacher! I applaud you! I still value your knowledge here on this site - you are a great steeler fan and poster, but those comments always trigger me. Sorry, but not "real" sorry for the rant!

[Ice]

Thanks, @alancac98 and @Thrillsseeker. I wasn't going to even respond, but as a 22 year secondary educator, I appreciate you guys.

To the OP, yeah, running school busses through that mess would be a nightmare. Remote learning is far from ideal, but this is what it exists for.

[swissvale72]

I've always said glorified babysitters. That's what the results indicate. No evidence of "good teachers" in test scores.

I don't think it will be very long before students get at least 75% of their learning from AI.


So, you know, keep getting every extra day off you can.....because soon you'll have all of them off.

You pay your babysitters more per hour per child than you do teachers, so there's that. I'm a second grade teacher and in no way a glorified babysitter! In today's school environment, most people don't last a week! Society and psychology has wrecked schools, not to mention the Department of Ed's "dumbing down" principles for the last 40 years. Kids can do whatever the hell they want. Out of a class of 20, 15 ids are really good and want to learn. The other 5 are a mix of behavior problems with one or two kids in there that totally wreck the room, even physically. There are times we are told to vacate the room because a kid is having a meltdown. The new buzzword for administrators is "trauma"! The process to get a child evaluated for a learning disability or behavioral situation takes at least a year. We close hallways down so a kid can "calm" down. Parents could care less. They have no problem telling you that they have to take care of them when they are home, the kid is not their problem when they are at school - what kind of parenting is that. Parenting skills have completely eroded as electronics is the new "cope with your kid" strategy! Kindergarten kids have a third of the knowledge they did 20 years ago coming into elementary - mostly due to behaviors! Can't teach when you are so busy addressing this in the classroom. We'll keep the discussion away from how many babies are being born from mothers who are on drugs, smoke, drink etc...(can you imagine how a babies brain develops in the womb filled with meth?)

Let's talk curriculum - it sucks. Book companies are for the money. Some of their curriculum and how they want you to teach it is horrendous. Math has become a complete joke in elementary. The so-called strategies they want us to teach just create confusion. I was fortunate enough to point this out to my Superintendent one day when he popped into my room. He was an ex-high school math teacher that taught AP Calculus and couldn't figure out what they wanted the kids to do. Currently, I throw nearly half the curriculum away and do my own thing, but I have 32 years of teaching experience behind me. Young teachers are too afraid to do that! There was a very interesting article written by a gentlemen concerning the curriculum in schools. From internal documents from the Department of Education around 2000, it was clear to him that student learning was to be dumbed down. Publishers are throwing shit onto the wall making their curriculum meet a lower standard of learning and it shows in this country. But, the powers to be know more than we teachers do because after all, they were a student once! Teachers are handcuffed and that is why there is a huge teacher shortage right now.

There are a lot of problems in education, but teachers, well at least elementary teachers, just being glorified babysitters is not one of them. Yes, our results are horrible so it may look that way. We should mold our education and societal parenting after the Chinese! In China, the internet is state run. Huge filters are letting kids on only what the want them on. The internet comes on in the evening for only an hour or two, then is turned off. Students in the fast track path can access the internet for longer periods of time via a request through their teachers. At around age 10-12, kids are split into two tracks based on academic performance: a college track and a life track (I'm sure you can figure this out what each one means). Behavior is a complete non issue in their schools as the expectation are through the proverbial roof from not only the school but their parents.

As for the extra days off, please consider the security of children on the streets and in busses when 100's of thousands of "new" people are suddenly flooding our city and visiting the bars all day! Besides, that is above the pay grade of a teacher anyway.

Fun fact: In 1980 the Dept. of Ed. was created in Washington D.C.. Since then, the education of our children has seriously declined and continues to decline. I wonder why that is? The conspiracy theorist in me tells me that a dumber dependent society is easier to control than a smarter self-sufficient one.

Kodiak, what do you do for a living? I'm sure that you learned everything you know completely on your own without any help from a teacher! I applaud you! I still value your knowledge here on this site - you are a great steeler fan and poster, but those comments always trigger me. Sorry, but not "real" sorry for the rant!

Good post, Alanac!! I didn't work in public schools, but rather in residential treatment settings for at/risk/ emotionally troubled kids for 47 years, provided training in crisis management for public school staff, who were often deprived of necessary tools in their toolbox, encouraged to basically form a posse and follow the kid around the school who was tearing the place apart rather than take definitive steps to stop the behavior, which I would argue, IS "trauma-informed" and actually desired by a student seeking external controls, knowing damn well that they're lacking those internal controls.

Any, good post, Alanac, and a salute your dedication.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

not blaming individual teaches but unions and admins