Pats Video Crew at Bengals Browns Game under Investigation

[Baltostiller]

“Obviously it’s under review,” Goodell said. "We’re gonna be thorough, and take our time.”

Meaning discipline will come AFTER the season...

I don't know how you can believe their explanation, especially given the similarities in excuse/explanation detailed in that other article. You don't accidentally or unintentionally set-up a fixed camera with a perfect shot of the coaches on the sideline, and film an entire quarter.


Someone else probably called it. You can't come down all that hard and it has to be minimized, otherwise the integrity of the game/league is at stake. I think the owners need to tell Kraft that Belicheat needs to "retire", or they're going to force him to sell the team.

It’s Ernie Adams. He must be banned from NFL as well as Bill

^^^
This exactly. BB can sit there and say "oh, I don't know about any of that stuff". Meanwhile, that crafty bastard Ernie Adams is scrubbing those recordings and using that photographic memory of his to remember everything that was done when the coaches gave certain signals. Leave BB alone and kick Ernie Adams out of the NFL for the cheating motherfucker he is and see how good the Pats* are.

[blu]

Goodell may have to do something significant as Mike Brown could easily give copies of the Bengals video of the Patriots filming to the media. I don't think Roger can do anything to stop that.

[Kodiak]

It’s Ernie Adams. He must be banned from NFL as well as Bill

I just had another thought....Why do you pretty much have to play man to beat NE? Because Ernie knows your zone calls, and knows where the holes are going to be.

[Kodiak]

...and kick Ernie Adams out of the NFL for the cheating motherfucker he is ...

Kraft and Belicheat would still figure out a way to use him.

I bet Belicheat and/or Brady are going to spill the goods one day. When you get it over on people like that, you just have to tell everyone. "You didn't even know I cheated....that's how much smarter than you I am"

[BethlehemSteel]

...and kick Ernie Adams out of the NFL for the cheating motherfucker he is ...

Kraft and Belicheat would still figure out a way to use him.

I bet Belicheat and/or Brady are going to spill the goods one day. When you get it over on people like that, you just have to tell everyone. "You didn't even know I cheated....that's how much smarter than you I am"

If that ever happens I expect the titles to be revoked and given to runner ups or simply vacated One would expect the nfl dies

[Jobu]

...and kick Ernie Adams out of the NFL for the cheating motherfucker he is ...

Kraft and Belicheat would still figure out a way to use him.

I bet Belicheat and/or Brady are going to spill the goods one day. When you get it over on people like that, you just have to tell everyone. "You didn't even know I cheated....that's how much smarter than you I am"

I doubt it. Belichick is too smug to give anyone the satisfaction, and Brady relishes his status as the GOAT too much. He’ll never admit that he wasn’t legit.

[jewelsongs]

“Obviously it’s under review,” Goodell said. "We’re gonna be thorough, and take our time.”

Meaning discipline will come AFTER the season...

I don't know how you can believe their explanation, especially given the similarities in excuse/explanation detailed in that other article. You don't accidentally or unintentionally set-up a fixed camera with a perfect shot of the coaches on the sideline, and film an entire quarter.


Someone else probably called it. You can't come down all that hard and it has to be minimized, otherwise the integrity of the game/league is at stake. I think the owners need to tell Kraft that Belicheat needs to "retire", or they're going to force him to sell the team.

It’s Ernie Adams. He must be banned from NFL as well as Bill

Even if Ernie Adams didn't do it, ban him anyway. He is their secret sauce.

[Kodiak]

I doubt it. Belichick is too smug to give anyone the satisfaction, and Brady relishes his status as the GOAT too much. He’ll never admit that he wasn’t legit.

Ha! You gave me the perfect tag line:

[Texas Black & Gold]

At least a couple of them are illegitimate

[BethlehemSteel]

same ole hubris and persecution complex......... they all should be pissed off at their team for repeatedly being caught cheating the integrity of the game. This should cement the asterisks on their last 20 years. I can positively state 31 other fan bases share this opinion. If it didn't benefit them, they why do it? they have 6 bowls now under the cheating period. Take one away to prove a point.

I suspect they are checking out all the Kraft Production stints the past year to see any direct correlations.

https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-pa ... 37/page-84

these folks just can't accept their team is dirty. Some accept it but they all just don't want to let it sink in.

[BethlehemSteel]

same ole hubris and persecution complex......... they all should be pissed off at their team for repeatedly being caught cheating the integrity of the game. This should cement the asterisks on their last 20 years. I can positively state 31 other fan bases share this opinion. If it didn't benefit them, they why do it? they have 6 bowls now under the cheating period. They NEVER stopped actively cheating. Take one lombardi away to prove a point.

I suspect they are checking out all the Kraft Production stints the past year to see any direct correlations.

https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-pa ... 37/page-84

these folks just can't accept their team is dirty. Some accept it but they all just don't want to let it sink in.

[BethlehemSteel]

Chris Hoke's weekly spot

They asked him about the Pats Cheating Again:

https://937thefan.radio.com/media/audio ... ng-scandal

i'm with him And Fuck Bill Cowher

[Kodiak]

Chris Hoke's weekly spot

Like he said, "no one knows who Chris Hoke is or cares what he says".

Too bad, because he simply explains how it helps to steal signals. And all the former players on NFLN and BSPN know this, but they lie and run cover for the league.

[stillthere]

“Obviously it’s under review,” Goodell said. "We’re gonna be thorough, and take our time.”

Meaning discipline will come AFTER the season...

I don't know how you can believe their explanation, especially given the similarities in excuse/explanation detailed in that other article. You don't accidentally or unintentionally set-up a fixed camera with a perfect shot of the coaches on the sideline, and film an entire quarter.


Someone else probably called it. You can't come down all that hard and it has to be minimized, otherwise the integrity of the game/league is at stake. I think the owners need to tell Kraft that Belicheat needs to "retire", or they're going to force him to sell the team.

I say he has sullied the shield enough that they should force Kraft out. I would love to watch that shit storm.

[BethlehemSteel]

Chris Hoke's weekly spot

Like he said, "no one knows who Chris Hoke is or cares what he says".

Too bad, because he simply explains how it helps to steal signals. And all the former players on NFLN and BSPN know this, but they lie and run cover for the league.

This is as good as an explanation as Mark Schrleth's older spygate explanation years ago. This is how the HOF crews need to evaluate in 5-10 yrs

[Kodiak]

I say he has sullied the shield enough that they should force Kraft out. I would love to watch that shit storm.

Belicheat has to go, but you can't do it all at once or it will look like an implicit indictment of the past 20 years. This was probably already Brady's last year. If Belicheat also retires [involuntarily], it won't look like anything suspicious to most people.

Then Kraft sells the team a few years later. I don't think most owners are like fans. It's a long-term investment - they don't hang on every season and game like fans do. But first and foremost, it's status symbol. And a hobby.

[COR-TEN]

I can positively state 31 other fan bases share this opinion.

Not sure I can agree with that. Many feel the "stealers" are high on the list of cheaters. On occasion I visit other teams' forums after losses and most all of them at one point or another call the steeler, stealers, and say the NFL is rigged to make them win. Seattle being #1. I think you posted the website that placed the steelers at #4. But then again, the steelers travel well and other fan bases hate that.

[jebrick]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

[Baltostiller]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

I posted this on Tuesday in this thread.
" I really hope the Bengals staff was smart enough to keep a copy of that video before they turned it over to the league."

Those dumbasses better have made a copy before they turned over to that piece of shit Goodell.

[stillthere]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

I think this is why Cinci made a copy of the recording. They want to be able to release the video if the league will not.

[Thrillsseeker]

Release that motherfucker!

I hope they fucking hold the leagues balls to the fire. shit needs to fucking come out and the shit needs to be put to bed. Asterisk some, strip some, ban em. fucking something !!!’

Expose those cheating fucks and burry them!

[Kodiak]

I think this is why Cinci made a copy of the recording. They want to be able to release the video if the league will not.

Errrrrrrr, an underling made a copy. I would guess if he releases the video he'll be fired. Would be interesting to know how the NFL uses NDA's and how restrictive they are.

Unless he's shopping the video to the highest bidder, it would already be out if they intended to release it.

[Jobu]

I think this is why Cinci made a copy of the recording. They want to be able to release the video if the league will not.

Errrrrrrr, an underling made a copy. I would guess if he releases the video he'll be fired. Would be interesting to know how the NFL uses NDA's and how restrictive they are.

Unless he's shopping the video to the highest bidder, it would already be out if they intended to release it.

Ehhh, it’s already coming out that there’s nothing incriminating on the Pats tape. Just stuff that could be seen on the TV broadcast. Referring to the videographer as “a kid” that was doing the job for first time. Innocent mistake.
Another coverup coming. Gotta protect the shield...defend that bottom line.

[Donnie Brasco]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

The video apparently shows 8 straight minutes of coaches/ signaling AND the personnel packages along with it

[Ice]

Release that motherfucker!

I hope they fucking hold the leagues balls to the fire. shit needs to fucking come out and the shit needs to be put to bed. Asterisk some, strip some, ban em. fucking something !!!’

Expose those cheating fucks and burry them!

The Zack Snyder cut of Spygate tapes?

[jebrick]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

The video apparently shows 8 straight minutes of coaches/ signaling AND the personnel packages along with it

Only rumor until we see it. Unless it is broadcast the Pats fans will just deny it. Let everyone see it. Perhaps they actually are watching the Bengal cheerleaders

[BethlehemSteel]

This can be put to bed if the NFL will just hand the film to ESPN and let them play it on air. If it shows them just focused on the coaches then they know.

The video apparently shows 8 straight minutes of coaches/ signaling AND the personnel packages along with it

Only rumor until we see it. Unless it is broadcast the Pats fans will just deny it. Let everyone see it. Perhaps they actually are watching the Bengal cheerleaders

A good many of them want to see the films because perhaps then they’ll finally admit that their team is a fucking fraud

[BethlehemSteel]

here comes the pain!! (lets hope)

Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reports the Patriots could face "steep" penalties for illegally taping the Bengals' sideline.
This conflicts with a report from the Washington Post, who days earlier said that "severe sanctions" were unlikely. Per La Canfora, the league will consider "heavy fines" and could dock the Patriots a draft pick for their latest indiscretion. La Canfora also acknowledged the possibility of suspending members of ownership/upper-management following New England's admitted taping of the Bengals' sideline in their Week 14 game with Cleveland. No strangers to cheating allegations, the Patriots' status as a "repeat offender" will reportedly play a factor in what discipline they receive. It's not a good look for the Pats, who certainly didn't need a leg up against the 1-12 Bengals.

SOURCE: CBS Sports
Dec 15, 2019, 11:11 AM ET

[bradshaw2ben]

the footage leaked today on Fox Sports pregame

It is in no way, shape, or form B-Roll for the Patriots Do Your Job show. No chance. Also, the answers the videographers are giving in the leaked audio are total and complete bullshit.

Don't know what the Pats were looking for in the sideline video and don't know why they felt the need to do it... but they were sure as hell doing it.

[chippedhamsandwich]

Here is some of the video that Jay Glazer got:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B6Ghw44BvT ... 2fjhsspgwn