FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

[955876]

Problem with firing Tomlin is that Dunce would have to actually interview and hire a new HC.

Anyone really trust him to not FUBAR the hell out of that process?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Problem with firing Tomlin is that Dunce would have to actually interview and hire a new HC.

Anyone really trust him to not FUBAR the hell out of that process?

He needs to not be a part of that, he needs his replacement (family) to hire the next coach and staff., period

[CKSteeler]

NHALS and the late season collapses are related.

I think Tomlin runs ultra-conservative and relatively simple schemes. Early in the year, they execute at a higher level than teams learning more complex designs. But later in the year, those other teams have become more fundamentally sound in a scheme that gets more out of the talent.

Tomlin gets away with this because he's the only coach in the league that doesn't have a mandate to win playoff games. That allows him to take a high floor with his schemes, and be a little less mediocre than average. But a "high floor" isn't taking them anywhere in the playoffs.

He does have a mandate this year, soft one albiet.....let see what occurs in the following 2 weeks

I don't think there's any mandate of any kind. I think Tomlin hears the outside noise and is desperate to get over this hump. Combine that with a new GM and assistant GM and you get a more aggressive off-season. But I don't think Art II ever threatened him in anyway. Art II isn't paying out any contract.

Tomlin has a job as long as he wants it. He wants to to win, but he's not self-aware enough to see his own flaws. At some point, Cowher by his own admission learned to stop micromanaging and get out of the way of his coordinators. Mike Tomlin will likely never learn that lesson and his early success is a big part of the reason why. He's not confident enough to look back and admit to himself that he had two experienced coordinators and he was in a CEO role at first.

[langer]

NHALS and the late season collapses are related.

I think Tomlin runs ultra-conservative and relatively simple schemes. Early in the year, they execute at a higher level than teams learning more complex designs. But later in the year, those other teams have become more fundamentally sound in a scheme that gets more out of the talent.

Tomlin gets away with this because he's the only coach in the league that doesn't have a mandate to win playoff games. That allows him to take a high floor with his schemes, and be a little less mediocre than average. But a "high floor" isn't taking them anywhere in the playoffs.

He does have a mandate this year, soft one albiet.....let see what occurs in the following 2 weeks

I don't think there's any mandate of any kind. I think Tomlin hears the outside noise and is desperate to get over this hump. Combine that with a new GM and assistant GM and you get a more aggressive off-season. But I don't think Art II ever threatened him in anyway. Art II isn't paying out any contract.

Tomlin has a job as long as he wants it. He wants to to win, but he's not self-aware enough to see his own flaws. At some point, Cowher by his own admission learned to stop micromanaging and get out of the way of his coordinators. Mike Tomlin will likely never learn that lesson and his early success is a big part of the reason why. He's not confident enough to look back and admit to himself that he had two experienced coordinators and he was in a CEO role at first.

Ah yes, the Peter Principle. It can explain what's going on. Could be modified for NFL utilization and renamed the Tomlin Principle.

Once he had full control, it started to fall apart, he was promoted way past his skillset and competency.

His lines of bullshit put him in a position he didn't know anything about and once he was forced to find out how things really are, started fucking things up. He new no better. He was placed in a spot where he didn't belong no matter what moron NFL mouthpieces say about how intelligent he is.

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[

[W&M_Steeler]

Tomlin has a job as long as he wants it. He wants to to win, but he's not self-aware enough to see his own flaws. At some point, Cowher by his own admission learned to stop micromanaging and get out of the way of his coordinators. Mike Tomlin will likely never learn that lesson and his early success is a big part of the reason why. He's not confident enough to look back and admit to himself that he had two experienced coordinators and he was in a CEO role at first.

I wonder what happened behind closed doors with the whole Arians situation. Did Arians call out Tomlin? I wonder if it bothers Tomlin that Arians won NFL Coach of the Year twice after he was force "retired" by the Steelers, while Tomlin has never won it?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

NHALS and the late season collapses are related.

I think Tomlin runs ultra-conservative and relatively simple schemes. Early in the year, they execute at a higher level than teams learning more complex designs. But later in the year, those other teams have become more fundamentally sound in a scheme that gets more out of the talent.

Tomlin gets away with this because he's the only coach in the league that doesn't have a mandate to win playoff games. That allows him to take a high floor with his schemes, and be a little less mediocre than average. But a "high floor" isn't taking them anywhere in the playoffs.

He does have a mandate this year, soft one albiet.....let see what occurs in the following 2 weeks

I don't think there's any mandate of any kind. I think Tomlin hears the outside noise and is desperate to get over this hump. Combine that with a new GM and assistant GM and you get a more aggressive off-season. But I don't think Art II ever threatened him in anyway. Art II isn't paying out any contract.

Tomlin has a job as long as he wants it. He wants to to win, but he's not self-aware enough to see his own flaws. At some point, Cowher by his own admission learned to stop micromanaging and get out of the way of his coordinators. Mike Tomlin will likely never learn that lesson and his early success is a big part of the reason why. He's not confident enough to look back and admit to himself that he had two experienced coordinators and he was in a CEO role at first.

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/weve- ... f-drought/

plenty of amunition in this article on many fronts

[langer]

Yeah yeah yeah, Art says they need playoff wins and all that.

Every owner of a team that makes money says that shit to keep the hordes at bay.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

The booing tonight speaks volumes


Christmas Day game on Netflix had tampered audio. I am completely convinced

His word salad at half was classic Tomlin idiot lore

[Steelperch]

Nothing matters until Tomlin is gone and they get a good offensive mind in here. All the other bitching is useless. It all comes down to Fire Mike Tomlin

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/ThePoniExpress/status/187 ... e8Oww&s=19

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

If there was a button to push to make the floor drop out under Tomlin. I would fight all you guys to be the person to do it

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/steelers/status/187576149 ... DeoiQ&s=19

[Rod & Wire Mill]

Fuck firing, or even execution. How about torture. Like he does to Steeler Nation.

[Baltostiller]

Captain bullshit rides again. Nothing will ever change with this imbecile in charge.

[AirRescueFF]

"We formulated a plan that we thought was appropriate for this environment in this game this week and it didn't work out the way we would like."

In response to why they changed from pass heavy to run heavy from the last meeting.



So the plan was to lose. Success. Congratulations to the coaches.

[alancac98]

Fuck firing, or even execution. How about torture. Like he does to Steeler Nation.

I just got banned at steeler nation for saying something similar! (Until Jan. 31st) Lol.

[AirRescueFF]

If there was a button to push to make the floor drop out under Tomlin. I would fight all you guys to be the person to do it

It'd be 100x the amount of offense than this team could muster.

[steelmann58]

I still wonder if a team willing to be interested in trading for him.

[Steelperch]

I still wonder if a team willing to be interested in trading for him.

If the Jets are interested in Arthur Smith, somebody surely would trade for Tomlin

[Gonzo]

"We formulated a plan that we thought was appropriate for this environment in this game this week and it didn't work out the way we would like."

In response to why they changed from pass heavy to run heavy from the last meeting.

Pure insanity

[langer]

He would get hired in literally a microsecond.

[langer]

"We formulated a plan"

No you didn't.

[steelmann58]

I still wonder if a team willing to be interested in trading for him.

If the Jets are interested in Arthur Smith, somebody surely would trade for Tomlin

One would hope and pray

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

I’d be on the phone to wheel and deal the entire staff to the Jesters

[steelmann58]

I’d be on the phone to wheel and deal the entire staff to the Jesters

Yes

[Steelafan77]

In microseconds!

I’d be on the phone to wheel and deal the entire staff to the Jesters

[Stillerz Bar]

"We formulated a plan that we thought was appropriate for this environment in this game this week and it didn't work out the way we would like."

In response to why they changed from pass heavy to run heavy from the last meeting.

Pure insanity

The quote

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

Apparently after today we need a second definition:

“The definition of insanity is not doing the same thing over and over again that worked in the past but rather developing a plan completely different from the one that worked and then trying to explain why it is better than the one that worked."

[steelmann58]

once the formulated plan didn't work they never thought to change it Freaking pathetic

[Ice]

Here's an out of left field move. You want a well-respected by players CEO/figurehead coach who gives great press conferences? Offer Tomlin's salary to Coach Prime. He's shown an ability to rebuild a culture (albeit mostly with his own progeny), he hires pretty good assistants and position coaches and lets them coach, he'd get instant buy in from the locker room, you'd probably get Shedeur and Travis as soon as their rookie contracts are up, and he wears even cooler shades.

I'm only half kidding with this.

[anpsteel]

Here's an out of left field move. You want a well-respected by players CEO/figurehead coach who gives great press conferences? Offer Tomlin's salary to Coach Prime. He's shown an ability to rebuild a culture (albeit mostly with his own progeny), he hires pretty good assistants and position coaches and lets them coach, he'd get instant buy in from the locker room, you'd probably get Shedeur and Travis as soon as their rookie contracts are up, and he wears even cooler shades.

I'm only half kidding with this.

If Art hires Meion, i would seriously consider turning in my membership card