Terrell Edmunds is outta here

[955876]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Those values don’t equate.

DJ is inconsistent but should have a better year and adds more value (and need) to the team than a 3rd safety.

Crazy talk

[steelmann58]

This kid not at fault for being over drafted by the Steelers if he was taken a round or two later no one would complain

[bradshaw2ben]

Agree. Although I think Peterson also made it less likely to take Joey jr. Is he supposed to play slot?

Meanwhile yes Branch fills a major need and backs up nearly every position in the secondary…at a probable all pro level. He comes in and immediately starts in the slot. It’s interesting though it may push Kazee to more of a strong safety role, which would be fine for him.

Yeah I see huge value from Branch. Hoping he gets by Belicheck to us

Kazee is like 175 LBs soaking wet. He’s not a SS.

[bradshaw2ben]

Not Drafting Branch @17 I would go nuts

Which way do you mean that? You’d be upset they didn’t draft him at 17 or upset they did?

[LakecrestSteeler]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Not the year to look for a DJ quality replacement in the draft.

What is DJ quality?

Cinci kind of threw that model on its ear with Chase and Higgins. I don’t particularly think you always need to have the 5’ 10 to 6’ speedy guy. Just NBA defenses with tall guys with good hands!

But you may not be saying that, you may just be talking about replacing his production with one draft pick?

[LakecrestSteeler]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Those values don’t equate.

DJ is inconsistent but should have a better year and adds more value (and need) to the team than a 3rd safety.

Crazy talk

It is hardly crazy. I am tired of the Holmes, Sanders, AB, and now DJ mold. Mix it up and go all height for a 5 season stretch and see what happens. Something wrong with the thought of Wallace, Pickens, and Martavius Bryant at all 3 WR spots?

[bradshaw2ben]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Not the year to look for a DJ quality replacement in the draft.

What is DJ quality?

Cinci kind of threw that model on its ear with Chase and Higgins. I don’t particularly think you always need to have the 5’ 10 to 6’ speedy guy. Just NBA defenses with tall guys with good hands!

But you may not be saying that, you may just be talking about replacing his production with one draft pick?

Someone who can get open vs press and can handle a high volume of work. I think the Steelers would miss that if it were gone.

[Scunge]

I have often got caught up in with others in saying the Steelers reached for Edmunds but, realistically, when you get past the top 12-15 picks in any given draft, picks 15-50, there isn't a whole lot of distance between the players.

Edmunds was going to be drafted that year, probably in the second round. The Steelers chose him with the 28th pick, so a very late first round pick.

The way people go on and on, bitching about how he was a bust, you would think the Steelers spent the 10th overall pick on him.

The Steelers want that SS to be big, and yet athletic to do coverage duties as well. Finding a player like Edmunds is not that easy.

From the names left that people trot out, well, they probably aren't going to be able to do what Edmunds has done over the past 5 seasons.

Taylor Rapp? John Johnson, Ronnie Harrison? Adrian Amos?

This is what they did in pass coverage the past two seasons,

Rapp gave up 81 catches on 111 targets 73% completion rate, for 909 yards, 8 TDs and 6 INTs for a passer rating of 98.52
Harrison gave up 30 catches on 48 targets, 62.5%, for 336 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT for a passer rating of 114.24
Amos gave up 74 catches on 113 targets, 65.5%, for 870 yards, 9 TDs, 3 INTs for a passer rating of 104.22

Sorry, but if I am GM I am not bringing in any of those three gentlemen, their pass coverage sucks. They gave up 6 TDs, 8 TDs, 9 TDs in just the last two years.

So, who is worthy of being our SS?

Of who is remaining it is Terrell Edmunds and John Johnson.

Edmunds gave up 50 catches on 86 targets, 58% completion rate, for 488 yards, 5 TDs and 2 INTs for a passer rating of 83.87
Johnson gave up 48 catches on 85 targets, 56.5%, for 737 yards, 3 TDs and 4 INTs for a passer rating of 77.43.

Johnson and Edmunds are very close in their pass coverage. Johnson had two more INTs and gave up 2 less TDs, but Edmunds was giving up less yards per catch and target. Johnson gave up 15.4 yards per catch for example, while Edmunds only gave up 9.8 yards per catch.

And we know how our team will put our SS on a WR down the field, yes, Metcalf burning Edmunds for a TD is permanently burned in the minds of Steeler Furians. Knowing this and yet Terrell Edmunds is still able to put up very good pass coverage stats overall??

How well would Taylor Rapp or John Johnson, Amos, Harrison do if matched up on a Metcalfe or Tee Higgins down the field??

I feel that the interest in Dorian Williams (Tulane) by the Steelers is that they view him as a replacement for Terrell Edmunds. The Steelers the past two years have been using the SS position more of like an off ball linebacker type.

With Williams you look at him and he is chiseled and probably maxed out weight-wise, I don't think he is going to add any weight, he is perfect in my mind to be that SS/off ball linebacker, use him as they have been using Edmunds these past couple years.

Williams is 6'1" 228, ran a 4.49 and had a 33.5 vertical. He also has long 33 3/4" arms.
Edmunds is 6'1" 217, ran a 4.47 and had a 41.5 vertical, with 32 3/4" arms.

I think teams are wising up to Dorian Williams and I don't know if he will be there at pick 80 in the 3rd round. To me he might be the top SS prospect in the whole draft, won't that push him up draft boards? Some teams may view him as an off ball linebacker, or maybe a Will linebacker in a 4-3, but for me I look at him and see this hybrid SS/ILB and would take him with our pick 49, 2nd round pick.

[Steeldrama]

Good topic here fellas.
Y’all are idea men.

I like the way y’all are thinkin’ with the undersized kids like Marte Mapu and Dorian Williams transitioning from small, speedy college linebackers to strong safety/hybrid types in the pros.
Very creative thinking.
I dig.

Unfortunately just not too many examples I can think of that working out well not just for the Steelers but the NFL.
Steelers under Noll and Cowher were able to convert my guy Carnell Lake from college LB to safety.

Brian Urlacher the opposite.
Safety to moved to linebacker.

My guy Jimmy Johnson did it with Darren Woodson.

Jimmy though was more the pioneer of what we see college coaches today doing taking the strong safety types and making them fast linebackers like he did so well at the U. Speed baby!

Bobby Bowden followed suit with players like Derrick Brooks, but the NFL wisely kept those guys at linebacker.

Only big name I can think of that’s successfully switched from college LB to a hybrid role of late is Isaiah Simmons of the crappy ass Cardinals of all teams.
Read somewhere that his nickel coverage was graded higher than any corner last year.
Insane football player.

Jeremy Chinn plays a hybrid role for the Panthers, but pretty sure he was a safety in college.

Anyway, you don’t exactly need to be Scotland Yard to figure out what Tomlin and the Steelers have planned for the draft. Just follow the bread crumbs.

Depot has the list of Pro Days and what Steelers’ personnel were in attendance.

A quick scan shows LBs coach Aaron Curry was in attendance at Dorian Williams Pro Day.
To me that means the Steelers’ view him as a linebacker.
Otherwise why wouldn’t Grady Brown be there to put Williams through some safety drills?

Brown however was at the Bama Pro Day to scout two potential Steelers’ safeties in Brian Branch and Jordan Battle. Neither of whom played linebacker in college.
Branch a corner/hybrid of sorts, but Battle just a straight up safety so with Brown there that tells me they're just scouting secondary players for the secondary.

I get these are just visits and doesn’t preclude the Steelers from switching positions for any prospect regardless of position, but I THINK Tomlin operates like these college coaches.
He’s drafting those smaller safety built players like Shazier, Sean Spencer, and the epic fail that was Devin Bush and keeping them at linebacker.

Tomlin and his staff are yet to try, let alone succeed, at what I think is a GREAT suggestion to try some of these, fast, smaller linebackers in a hybrid secondary role.
Would be especially helpful this year it what appears to be a pretty weak safety class.

Thanks fellas, I appreciate the creativity and great draft conversation.

[daikyu]

Yeah, I would hate to have another AB or Holmes, not tall enough.

This is where this board lost me on player evaluation years ago when there was a large contingent arguing that AB could never be a true number one because he is not tall enough. AB could only be a 1B never a 1A.

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Those values don’t equate.

DJ is inconsistent but should have a better year and adds more value (and need) to the team than a 3rd safety.

Crazy talk

It is hardly crazy. I am tired of the Holmes, Sanders, AB, and now DJ mold. Mix it up and go all height for a 5 season stretch and see what happens. Something wrong with the thought of Wallace, Pickens, and Martavius Bryant at all 3 WR spots?

[K_C_]

Not the year to look for a DJ quality replacement in the draft.

What is DJ quality?

Cinci kind of threw that model on its ear with Chase and Higgins. I don’t particularly think you always need to have the 5’ 10 to 6’ speedy guy. Just NBA defenses with tall guys with good hands!

But you may not be saying that, you may just be talking about replacing his production with one draft pick?

Someone who can get open vs press and can handle a high volume of work. I think the Steelers would miss that if it were gone.

I for one, would really miss this fuckface dropping easy throws, running backwards and costing his team first downs and not being able to routinely get both feet inbounds because his brain is too small.

Want proof? Rewatch the first quarter of the Buffalo game. Yes, it’s a tough watch but come back and tell me which Steelers offensive player caused that game to become an ass beating and out of reach above all others.

I tried to give Diontae Johnson a chance. His photo was my avatar heading into last season. I don’t care how good he is at getting open when he can’t do shit when the ball arrives, especially in crucial moments.

Thank Christ for George Pickens.

[bradshaw2ben]

I tried to give Diontae Johnson a chance. His photo was my avatar heading into last season.

good lord change your avatar photo now!

[K_C_]

I tried to give Diontae Johnson a chance. His photo was my avatar heading into last season.

good lord change your avatar photo now!

Good point.

[DP39]

When he was drafted, my biggest gripe about Edmunds was that he was definitely a panic reach (or horrific eval by MT) -- no two ways about it. Everyone that was anyone had him as, basically, a late 3rd rounder. Hell, even the official NFL website had him ranked there! And, right before the draft, one person (NFL insider Jason La Canfora) had him sliding into the end of the 1st round (and it was only because he heard MT loved him and would reach for him). So, our HC either had him up there with the likes of Safeties Minkah and Derwin James (AND HE WAS VERY, VERY WRONG if he did) OR he panicked and grabbed him two rounds too early. I'm not sure which is dumber!

Hell, Jessie Bates and Justin Reid went around the 3rd round that year and they were certainly considered way better S prospects than Edmunds. If you're REALLY picking BPA (as MT/KC ALWAYS touted doing), and not reaching (for need), then I give you...Lamar Jackson, Austin Corbett, Will Hernandez, Nick Chubb, Darius Leonard, Braden Smith, James Daniels, Harold Landry, Josh Jackson, Christian Kirk, Uchenna Nwosu, Dallas Goedert, Connor Williams, M.J. Stewart AND Jessie Bates. That's, count'em, 15 players considered (by the league) better-to-WAY-better than Edmunds -- all taken between our 1.28 and 2.60 pick that year . Talk about missed opportunities just because you panicked and reached! I know, I know, hindsight-n-all. But, come on, 15 F'n players that have been better than him (and that's JUST between our 1st & 2nd picks...I didn't even bring up players between our 2nd and 3rd pick (where he should've gone)! Okay, cough-cough, just for shit & giggles.... D.J. Chark, Carlton Davis, Justin Reid, BJ Hill, Fred Warner, Sam Hubbard, Michael Gallup, Tracy Walker, Orlando Brown, Mark Andrews....you get the drift.

For the past few years my biggest problem with Edmunds has been his, at best, average play at the SS position. I've always felt if you put a very good SS next to Minkah it would pay off exponentially -- think Ryan & Troy (with the obvious S position swap) back in the day (which, in turn, makes your CBs better, too). Edmunds has proven he's not going to provide that level of play. If he can't get more than what, $6-7M?/per year on the open market (or from us) then he's an average SS, at best. For the most part, the NFL market/salaries doesn't lie.

Over the past four years what has kept Edmunds in his job are mainly three things (none being stellar play), 1st round draft status, his availability, and cost...that's it. Those factors coupled with his below average becoming almost average play has just prolonged the inevitable (until now)....his release.

I, for one, am glad they're finally moving on and hope they find an ascending, above average SS. Minkah's talent deserves it.

[955876]

When he was drafted, my biggest gripe about Edmunds was that he was definitely a panic reach (or horrific eval by MT) -- no two ways about it. Everyone that was anyone had him as, basically, a late 3rd rounder. Hell, even the official NFL website had him ranked there! And, right before the draft, one person (NFL insider Jason La Canfora) had him sliding into the end of the 1st round (and it was only because he heard MT loved him and would reach for him). So, our HC either had him up there with the likes of Safeties Minkah and Derwin James (AND HE WAS VERY, VERY WRONG if he did) OR he panicked and grabbed him two rounds too early. I'm not sure which is dumber!

Jibbs, a former DB coach, has an awful record of picking DBs.

It’s why I worry about JP Jr.

If he’s a stud then great. I just need to hear that from others and see with my own eyes when he’s on an NFL field.

Don’t trust Jibbs even a little to make this decision.

His dumb ass thought Devin Bush was a football player.

[steelmann58]

Not Drafting Branch @17 I would go nuts

Which way do you mean that? You’d be upset they didn’t draft him at 17 or upset they did?

IF they Did i think we have bigger needs

[Smashmouth21]

Terrell Edmunds is not a miss or a bust. People still griping about that pick are just silly or (again) agenda driven. Professional evaluators have a 50/50 shot in the first round. A late first on a guy who is just an average-ish NFL player is nowhere near worst case scenario.

[Jizz Mop]

Signed one year deal w Iggles

[955876]

Terrell Edmunds is not a miss or a bust. People still griping about that pick are just silly or (again) agenda driven. Professional evaluators have a 50/50 shot in the first round. A late first on a guy who is just an average-ish NFL player is nowhere near worst case scenario.

The point you are completely missing though is that pretty much everyone had him as a third rounder.

When you overdraft a guy based either need, infatuation, or both you greatly increase the odds of landing a mediocre JAG.

Edmunds would not be viewed the same had he been taken in the third or later.

I recall myself along with many others that draft day saying “who” after we sprinted to the podium.

[steelmann58]

Looks like he will be staying in State very curious hearing it only a 1 year deal. have to think the Steelers have a plan

[DP39]

Signed one year deal w Iggles

More proof about Edmunds mere averageness or less....

....Edmunds has appeared in 15 or more games through his first five seasons in the league but has struggled at times in pass coverage. He allowed a career-high four receiving touchdowns last season while opposing receivers have converted 67.2 percent of their targets into receptions when facing him.

RELATED: Philadelphia Eagles
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Mar 24, 2023, 1:02 PM ET

[yygy]

Agree. Although I think Peterson also made it less likely to take Joey jr. Is he supposed to play slot?

Meanwhile yes Branch fills a major need and backs up nearly every position in the secondary…at a probable all pro level. He comes in and immediately starts in the slot. It’s interesting though it may push Kazee to more of a strong safety role, which would be fine for him.

Yeah I see huge value from Branch. Hoping he gets by Belicheck to us

Kazee is like 175 LBs soaking wet. He’s not a SS.

Yeah meant more like if Steelers were playing tomorrow he’s be the best SS option. Although he has played some strong in the past but fully agree he’s better ballhawking

It’s kind of surprising to me how cavalier the Steelers were with both Sutton and Edmunds. I didn’t feel a serious attempt was made to keep either. Now from an individual player perspective I get it. But from an overall teambuilding strategy, they were pretty good fits.

I’d say at least two options. One is the more straightforward. Simply replace like for like. Draft another corner and another safety and then pick up like nothing happened.

Second is try and morph the defense again. You might see some signs of this with their interest in guys like Simpson. The hybrid lb/ss. I personally don’t like this route for a number of reasons but the main one is it’s a very niche skill set.

Goes back to Branch’s value too. Branch can come in and give them essentially the three safety package in nickel. That could be very useful

[bradshaw2ben]

Agree. Although I think Peterson also made it less likely to take Joey jr. Is he supposed to play slot?

Meanwhile yes Branch fills a major need and backs up nearly every position in the secondary…at a probable all pro level. He comes in and immediately starts in the slot. It’s interesting though it may push Kazee to more of a strong safety role, which would be fine for him.

Yeah I see huge value from Branch. Hoping he gets by Belicheck to us

Kazee is like 175 LBs soaking wet. He’s not a SS.

Yeah meant more like if Steelers were playing tomorrow he’s be the best SS option. Although he has played some strong in the past but fully agree he’s better ballhawking

It’s kind of surprising to me how cavalier the Steelers were with both Sutton and Edmunds. I didn’t feel a serious attempt was made to keep either. Now from an individual player perspective I get it. But from an overall teambuilding strategy, they were pretty good fits.

I’d say at least two options. One is the more straightforward. Simply replace like for like. Draft another corner and another safety and then pick up like nothing happened.

Second is try and morph the defense again. You might see some signs of this with their interest in guys like Simpson. The hybrid lb/ss. I personally don’t like this route for a number of reasons but the main one is it’s a very niche skill set.

Goes back to Branch’s value too. Branch can come in and give them essentially the three safety package in nickel. That could be very useful

Branch would be a horrible use of resources at 17. You might be able to talk me into him at 32 but I doubt it.

[955876]

It’s kind of surprising to me how cavalier the Steelers were with both Sutton and Edmunds. I didn’t feel a serious attempt was made to keep either.

That’s in chapter 4 of Jibb’s “Coaching for Dummies” manual.

Always always always ensure there is a hole somewhere in the roster.

Built in excuse come seasons end. Well, we didn’t have the horses in the secondary. Will need to address.

[DP39]

I have a sneaky suspicion they view Kazee as Honey Badger-lite. Mathieu and Kazee are actually very similar in size, speed, and tenacity. Mathieu has found a ton of success playing SS as well as FS. With what they pay Minkah, I don't think they want to spend a lot at the other S spot -- thus Kazee (HB-lite).

I wonder -- with Minkah being an AP FS with the ability to be a great SS too -- if they see the two of them as much more flexible in their S play (than what Edmunds offered)? Could each flip-flop positions on any given play? Confusing offenses even more? It would be interesting.

Regardless, they still need a S3 from somewhere, unless they view someone on the roster as that guy. Maybe it's Norwood or Elijah Riley, idk? Does M. Killebrew (and his $2.5M cap hit) stick this year as a ST ace if he doesn't really offer enough as a S3/4, idk?

[Scunge]

Signed one year deal w Iggles

More proof about Edmunds mere averageness or less....

....Edmunds has appeared in 15 or more games through his first five seasons in the league but has struggled at times in pass coverage. He allowed a career-high four receiving touchdowns last season while opposing receivers have converted 67.2 percent of their targets into receptions when facing him.

RELATED: Philadelphia Eagles
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Mar 24, 2023, 1:02 PM ET

I would love to know where Crappaport gets his stats. My source says Edmunds gave up only 3 TDs last season and allowed only 60.6% completion rate against him, 20 catches on 33 targets for 264 yards in 15 games.

Jessie Bates gave up 4 TDs last season, he was 19 of 37 for 309 yards, 4 TDs and 4 INTs.
Juan Thornhill gave up 32 of 47 for 428 yards, 5 TDs with 3 INTs.

Those were two of the top safeties signed and they gave up more touchdowns and yardage than Terrell Edmunds. The thing I have discovered is that fans and teams will fall in love with the interception production and place too much of an emphasis on that to determine whether a player is great or not.

[Scunge]

A quick scan shows LBs coach Aaron Curry was in attendance at Dorian Williams Pro Day.
To me that means the Steelers’ view him as a linebacker.
Otherwise why wouldn’t Grady Brown be there to put Williams through some safety drills?

Well you raise good points Drama, but the one thing that I have been increasingly noticing the past couple years is that this is no longer our fathers Steelers anymore, if you catch my drift.

I saw an interview with Karl Dunbar and he was talking about how he coaches the linebackers too. And that makes sense right, Watt and HIghsmith and our OLBs are really just glorified DEs aren't they?

I look at a hiring of Aaron Curry. Here is a guy who was a very high first round draft pick at OLB but he coached defensive line at Charlotte, coaching Alex Highsmith and Larry Ogunjobi, and we hire him to NOT coach defensive line, NOT to coach the Outside Linebackers but to be the Inside Linebackers Coach???

I have read where Grady has talked about how you aren't just responsible for coaching just the defensive backs but also including the linebackers because they drop into coverage too.

It seems like there is a lot of what word to use? Cross Pollenization? Coaches are being asked to do more than what they traditionally used to do. So I don't rigidly think that just because a certain position coach is at a Pro Day that he is there with a certain mindset. Just my take on it

In terms of players in the NFL like a Dorian Williams, wasn't Kyzier White that type of player? I look at the college game and I see players loosely descibed as SS or Will LBers, or ILBs and it is all very nebulous to me. I do see more and more of the same body types, size, speed, etc these hybrid SS/off ball linebackers that they have got to become more common in the NFL. I would have loved to sign White but why not just draft Williams?

[DP39]

Signed one year deal w Iggles

More proof about Edmunds mere averageness or less....

....Edmunds has appeared in 15 or more games through his first five seasons in the league but has struggled at times in pass coverage. He allowed a career-high four receiving touchdowns last season while opposing receivers have converted 67.2 percent of their targets into receptions when facing him.

RELATED: Philadelphia Eagles
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Mar 24, 2023, 1:02 PM ET

I would love to know where Crappaport gets his stats. My source says Edmunds gave up only 3 TDs last season and allowed only 60.6% completion rate against him, 20 catches on 33 targets for 264 yards in 15 games.

Jessie Bates gave up 4 TDs last season, he was 19 of 37 for 309 yards, 4 TDs and 4 INTs.
Juan Thornhill gave up 32 of 47 for 428 yards, 5 TDs with 3 INTs.

Those were two of the top safeties signed and they gave up more touchdowns and yardage than Terrell Edmunds. The thing I have discovered is that fans and teams will fall in love with the interception production and place too much of an emphasis on that to determine whether a player is great or not.

Not sure the source of Crap's stats. I will say my eyes have always left me wanting more from Edmunds. He's certainly always available, tries hard, cheap, and has improved some, but I've always felt like he keeps Minkah from being even greater than he's shown to be.

My biggest grips with Edmunds have been his average (or below) football IQ, his horrific COD skills, and his less than great pursuit angles.

As for the bolded, I couldn't agree more, Scunge.

Case in point: Dallas' CB, Trevon Diggs, freakin' drives me crazy. And, I wouldn't be surprised if his Safeties can't stand playing alongside him. I would hate to have him as a Steeler, even on a minimum deal. Yes, he gets a bunch of INTs, but he is also terrible in coverage, and usually gives up the most TDs, league-wide, each year. Don't know his exact recent stats, but as an example: 7 INTs are great, but when you give up 12 TDs...not so much! But hey, he has a ton of INTs, so he has to be paid a top CB salary, right?....Um, no thanks, not in my book, at least.

Give me a guy that does all of the work (like Sid The Kid), not just the shiny half of it....

[LakecrestSteeler]

Yeah, I would hate to have another AB or Holmes, not tall enough.

This is where this board lost me on player evaluation years ago when there was a large contingent arguing that AB could never be a true number one because he is not tall enough. AB could only be a 1B never a 1A.

Those values don’t equate.

DJ is inconsistent but should have a better year and adds more value (and need) to the team than a 3rd safety.

Crazy talk

It is hardly crazy. I am tired of the Holmes, Sanders, AB, and now DJ mold. Mix it up and go all height for a 5 season stretch and see what happens. Something wrong with the thought of Wallace, Pickens, and Martavius Bryant at all 3 WR spots?

That is a twisting of what I am saying. I am saying let’s not turn down a great receiver because they are not in the mold of the aforementioned WRs of shorter stature.

There are just as many bust tall guys as there are bust small guys. Just pick the guy with the best hands who is the best athlete. They will find a way regardless of height.

Any great athlete with great hands can run a route and catch a ball. We have seen it with Prior, Bell, Ward, Stewart and countless others.

[franco32]

The problem with these stats on catches/yards/TDs given up are that they are subjective. I don't know who is making that judgement. It might look like the corner gave it up, but really the safety was late reacting.

What I do know is that Edmunds got SLIGHTLY better over the last few years, but he was still a HUGE liability in our secondary. Ever wonder why we get gauged so often in the middle of the field (especially on 3rd and long)? It's because Edmunds has no ball awareness and zero change of direction. The windows in the middle are a LOT bigger because of those two qualities. And, he didn't just hurt us in the pass. Countless times he's missed RBs in the hold when they cut by him with ease and go for bigger gains. He just can't deal with anyone that has decent lateral agility.

But, he's from Danville, Virginia and Tomlin likes his family...so we had to endure him for years.