Steelers are spending WAY too much time with this new kicking rule

[bradshaw2ben]

and they are going to run mostly the same shit they always ran on O ... in fact, I believe its going to get simpler and more conservative

Agreed.
It’s amusing to think that an OC with a conservative, outdated philosophy, is going to change what has been one of the leagues most conservative, outdated offenses.

You make me feel heard

[bradshaw2ben]

So out of curiosity, I googled KO return TDs for the UFL this past season. From the best I can tell, there was just one.
That may or may not mean a damn thing!

They didn't use this rule. The XFL used it. The UFL did not, opting to adopt the USFL rules (IIRC KO from the 20 yard line).

[anpsteel]

I think you are going to see a bunch of kick off returns for a TD, with this rule.

The return man has one wave of defenders to get though and then the kicker to beat.



Wait until the first misdirection return.


imo, this absolutely needs to be a focus. How to kick it, to minimize returns and how to defend returns.


From the return stand point, Speed should be the answer- and the Steelers have a lot of speed in camp.

One of the two XFL returns for TD was a reverse. Definitely helped to have an athletic Kicker.

In thinking about how to defend this

I imagine the kicking team, kicking to a side, will keep the 5 players on that side collapsing on the returner, the 3 players closest to the middle of the field, but on the "other" side of the kick, will rotate behind the front 5, to create a second level, and the remaining outside 2 players on the far side will hold down far side contain.

On the return side, I think you'll see zone blocking schemes, with 2 returners, and occasional attempts to break contain on the far side, with miss-direction.

Lastly, I'd strongly consider having a Kickoff Kicker, in addition to my FG kicker, as I can easily see injuries to the kicker occurring in this set up.

[Deebo]

I think you are going to see a bunch of kick off returns for a TD, with this rule.

The return man has one wave of defenders to get though and then the kicker to beat.



Wait until the first misdirection return.


imo, this absolutely needs to be a focus. How to kick it, to minimize returns and how to defend returns.


From the return stand point, Speed should be the answer- and the Steelers have a lot of speed in camp.

One of the two XFL returns for TD was a reverse. Definitely helped to have an athletic Kicker.

In thinking about how to defend this

I imagine the kicking team, kicking to a side, will keep the 5 players on that side collapsing on the returner, the 3 players closest to the middle of the field, but on the "other" side of the kick, will rotate behind the front 5, to create a second level, and the remaining outside 2 players on the far side will hold down far side contain.

On the return side, I think you'll see zone blocking schemes, with 2 returners, and occasional attempts to break contain on the far side, with miss-direction.

Lastly, I'd strongly consider having a Kickoff Kicker, in addition to my FG kicker, as I can easily see injuries to the kicker occurring in this set up.

Believe the Chiefs are doing this

[anpsteel]

One of the two XFL returns for TD was a reverse. Definitely helped to have an athletic Kicker.

In thinking about how to defend this

I imagine the kicking team, kicking to a side, will keep the 5 players on that side collapsing on the returner, the 3 players closest to the middle of the field, but on the "other" side of the kick, will rotate behind the front 5, to create a second level, and the remaining outside 2 players on the far side will hold down far side contain.

On the return side, I think you'll see zone blocking schemes, with 2 returners, and occasional attempts to break contain on the far side, with miss-direction.

Lastly, I'd strongly consider having a Kickoff Kicker, in addition to my FG kicker, as I can easily see injuries to the kicker occurring in this set up.

Believe the Chiefs are doing this

Yeah, this is a situation where you want a Sepulveda back there, as your kick off kicker.

Someone who can tackle and that if they are injured, doesn't impact your ability to kick field goals and extra points.

[Jobu]

So out of curiosity, I googled KO return TDs for the UFL this past season. From the best I can tell, there was just one.
That may or may not mean a damn thing!

They didn't use this rule. The XFL used it. The UFL did not, opting to adopt the USFL rules (IIRC KO from the 20 yard line).

I stand corrected.
I’ve never watched a UFL or XFL game in my life.

[PennyBacker]

One of the two XFL returns for TD was a reverse. Definitely helped to have an athletic Kicker.

In thinking about how to defend this

I imagine the kicking team, kicking to a side, will keep the 5 players on that side collapsing on the returner, the 3 players closest to the middle of the field, but on the "other" side of the kick, will rotate behind the front 5, to create a second level, and the remaining outside 2 players on the far side will hold down far side contain.

On the return side, I think you'll see zone blocking schemes, with 2 returners, and occasional attempts to break contain on the far side, with miss-direction.

Lastly, I'd strongly consider having a Kickoff Kicker, in addition to my FG kicker, as I can easily see injuries to the kicker occurring in this set up.

Believe the Chiefs are doing this

Makes me wonder if / when game day actives will expand. Right now the number is 45 players iirc, but that should potentially grow.

[Burgh Nike]

Not sure football ever becomes like baseball, where relief pitchers are so specialized now.

But you could maybe see some S/LBs who kicked off in highschool and who can still get the ball in the air start to fill a maniac or headhunter kick off specialist role.

Still a bit confused on everything having not seen a game yet, but my understanding is that the ball generally needs to be in play.

[stillthere]

Didn't Florida have a kicker that led the team in KO tackles or some shit a few years ago? See if he wants the job of KO hunt and seeker.