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Re: Losing streak perspective

Post by swissvale72 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm

Consensus seems to be that it's nigh impossible for Steelers to win a playoff game in Houston. How then...pray tell, did Steelers register wins against Washington and baltimore this year??



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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:23 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:45 pm
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:36 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:48 pm


"Foolish optimism," ok...believe what i said was that I want to see my team's season extended as long as possible. If you'd rather be totally negative and wallow in despair, totally up to you.
I’m not wallowing in dispair Swiss, just I accept the failure and won’t pretend they they will succeed

This guy is a complete fraud You need to go learn about fraudulent things. You live with too much fantasy in your brain
Look...I've been calling out Tomlin as a gameday dumbfuck and advocating for his ouster for over a decade. At the same time, I've also said, I believe accurately, that his job security rivals the pope's, so I'm not going to root for losses, thinking that will get Tomlin fired. It's this simple. I look forward to watching the Steelers play in January. I'm going to root for them to win so that their season continues, and perhaps delude myself, admittedly, into thinking that will happen
Yes, I know you have been calling him out.

I think you should root for the losses so the collective “Tomlin is God” mantra can be dismantled.

It’s really SBI to lose and lose more
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Post by Works At A Bank » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:44 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm
Consensus seems to be that it's nigh impossible for Steelers to win a playoff game in Houston. How then...pray tell, did Steelers register wins against Washington and baltimore this year??
They usually play Baltimore tough. It’s a divisional game. Commanders? They were using a practice squad player at RB and K, starting LT was out and Lattimore wasn’t activated for the game. Steelers won by a point. Blind squirrels finding nuts and all

Also I’d like to add that the Commanders dumbass Dlineman jumped off sides on 4th when everyone KNEW the Steelers weren’t going to snap the ball. Pretty sure it allowed Pit to salt the clock

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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:58 am

Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:44 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm
Consensus seems to be that it's nigh impossible for Steelers to win a playoff game in Houston. How then...pray tell, did Steelers register wins against Washington and baltimore this year??
They usually play Baltimore tough. It’s a divisional game. Commanders? They were using a practice squad player at RB and K, starting LT was out and Lattimore wasn’t activated for the game. Steelers won by a point. Blind squirrels finding nuts and all

Also I’d like to add that the Commanders dumbass Dlineman jumped off sides on 4th when everyone KNEW the Steelers weren’t going to snap the ball. Pretty sure it allowed Pit to salt the clock
None of that could happen in a playoff game at Houston??

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Post by Obviously » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:58 am

The ONLY perspective is that this is yet another end of year collapse by Tomlin's Steelers. So what if the last three opponents were arguably the best three teams in the NFL although I think the Lions, Bills and Vikings might have something to say about that. It's how the Steelers lost as mentioned before. They were crushed. In all three games. They aren't beating Cincinnati, they aren't winning a playoff game. Book it. It's the same old shit sandwich from Cool Shades and his merry band of asshats.

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Fuck them all
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Post by Suwanee88 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:03 am

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Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:25 pm
I'm tired of the 2005 comparisons. This team is nothing like the 2005 squad in terms of talent or circumstances. The '05 team had key injuries, mainly Roethlisberger. Had surgery on his knee and rushed back for that Colts game.

Also, Tomlin is incapable of learning. He's had these December skids damn near every year and nothing has ever changed. He isn't going to unleash his coordinators come January. His fingerprints will be all over whatever shitty schemes they trot out on Wild Card weekend when they get obliterated.
Agree.

Also - the 2004 team was 15-1 w a lot of those guys coming back in 2005 and got hot down the stretch. Nothing comparable at all.

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Post by Works At A Bank » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:09 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:58 am
Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:44 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm
Consensus seems to be that it's nigh impossible for Steelers to win a playoff game in Houston. How then...pray tell, did Steelers register wins against Washington and baltimore this year??
They usually play Baltimore tough. It’s a divisional game. Commanders? They were using a practice squad player at RB and K, starting LT was out and Lattimore wasn’t activated for the game. Steelers won by a point. Blind squirrels finding nuts and all

Also I’d like to add that the Commanders dumbass Dlineman jumped off sides on 4th when everyone KNEW the Steelers weren’t going to snap the ball. Pretty sure it allowed Pit to salt the clock
None of that could happen in a playoff game at Houston??
I mean it’s not impossible but highly unlikely. Listen, I want to watch the Steelers play as many games as possible too. I think it’s silly for people to wish for losses because at the end of the day Tomlin ain’t getting fired. Who says we play Houston? Is that a lock? I think that depends on beating Cincy? I have zero faith in this coaching staff and team to win another game this season. I said that after the Eagles loss. Time will tell

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:46 am

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Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:20 pm
Remember getting clobbered by the Manning led colts in the regular season and then beating them to advance to the AFC Championship game? Of course that was under Cowher...
That’s because Cowher finally realized in that postseason he needed to deviate from his tendencies.

Something Jibbs has never done nor believes he needs to.

He’s the smartest guy in the room. He won a Super Bowl 17 years ago. His plan is solid. Players just aren’t executing it.
It is even worse than that. He seems to have doubled down even more. Strip out more risk. Only throw outside the numbers. Minimize middle of the field. Do not go for 7 to end the half. Always defer. Never use 3rd and 4th down together for a first down. The clock is always the enemy! Minimize blitzing.

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Post by CzechSteeler » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:00 pm

Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:09 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:58 am
Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:44 am


They usually play Baltimore tough. It’s a divisional game. Commanders? They were using a practice squad player at RB and K, starting LT was out and Lattimore wasn’t activated for the game. Steelers won by a point. Blind squirrels finding nuts and all

Also I’d like to add that the Commanders dumbass Dlineman jumped off sides on 4th when everyone KNEW the Steelers weren’t going to snap the ball. Pretty sure it allowed Pit to salt the clock
None of that could happen in a playoff game at Houston??
Who says we play Houston? Is that a lock? I think that depends on beating Cincy?
It is not a lock, but much more it depends on Rats´ result against Browns. If they win, our result is meaningless.

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Post by tbsteel » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:31 pm

CzechSteeler wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:00 pm
Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:09 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:58 am


None of that could happen in a playoff game at Houston??
Who says we play Houston? Is that a lock? I think that depends on beating Cincy?
It is not a lock, but much more it depends on Rats´ result against Browns. If they win, our result is meaningless.

Our result is not meaningless.

If we lose next week to the Bengals, we can conceivably fall as low of the 7th seed if the Broncos and Chargers win out.

Which puts us @ Buffalo unless the Bills lose their last two games and drop to #3.

If we lose to Cincy and the Chargers beat Las Vegas, we'll be at best the sixth seed going to Baltimore again. Unless the Broncos win out, then back down to seventh.

I would love to see us as the seventh seed and have the Bills destroy us 54-0.
*roots for losses*

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Post by 955876 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:37 pm

I would love to see us as the seventh seed and have the Bills destroy us 54-0.
And if that happens Dunce will still pat his lapdog on the head and tell him “good boy” cuz the playoffs are a crapshoot anyways to him.

A bounce here and a bounce there.

Never his dipshit HC’s fault.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 84 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by Steelperch » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:50 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm
Consensus seems to be that it's nigh impossible for Steelers to win a playoff game in Houston. How then...pray tell, did Steelers register wins against Washington and baltimore this year??
Tomlin is outwitted by the Texans staff. Do you forget the 30-6 beating they put on the Steelers last year with a rookie QB?

Tomlin’s predictable defense gets destroyed in the playoffs by good or even lesser opponents every year. They’ve given up
31 to the Bills
42 to the Chiefs
48 to the Browns with a young Baker Mayfield at QB and no HC on the sidelines
45 to the Jags led by Blake Bortles
36 to the Pats

The only playoff wins since 2010 have come agains backup QBs AJ Mccarron, Matt Moore and Alex Smith. Unless our opponent loses its QB this weekend, you can bet whoever we play will put up 30+ points on Tomlin’s defense and the Steelers will lose. We’ve got 14 years of evidence. What more could you possibly need?

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 am

Needed to pause bungs-doncos at 17-17.

Perch...you seem convinced of a couple things...

-no way Steelers can win a playoff game. Can't agree wi try you on that?

-habe to embrace NHALS or go nuts. Sorry...I do neither. I enjoy seeing my team extend their season as long as possible...tho as I've oft said...don't really enjoy the games, just suffer through them and hope we're happy in the end

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:07 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 am
Needed to pause bungs-doncos at 17-17.

Perch...you seem convinced of a couple things...

-no way Steelers can win a playoff game. Can't agree wi try you on that?

-habe to embrace NHALS or go nuts. Sorry...I do neither. I enjoy seeing my team extend their season as long as possible...tho as I've oft said...don't really enjoy the games, just suffer through them and hope we're happy in the end
It’s been 14 years since the Steelers beat a team in the playoffs with their starting QB. Every loss they gave up over 30 points. Tomlin and his defense are proven failures in the playoffs. 14 years is way longer than most coaches get in the league.. The only people who need more proof if you and the Rooney family.

If they get lucky and beat a slumping Texans team, they have zero shot at winning in KC the next week. I’ll post my credit card info in this thread for you guys to use if they win 2 playoff games this year, let alone the 4 needed to win a Lombardi.

I enjoyed NHALS like a national holiday and am stress free for the annual December slide and playoff failure. These assholes get no more of my emotion.

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:30 am

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:07 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 am
Needed to pause bungs-doncos at 17-17.

Perch...you seem convinced of a couple things...

-no way Steelers can win a playoff game. Can't agree wi try you on that?

-habe to embrace NHALS or go nuts. Sorry...I do neither. I enjoy seeing my team extend their season as long as possible...tho as I've oft said...don't really enjoy the games, just suffer through them and hope we're happy in the end
It’s been 14 years since the Steelers beat a team in the playoffs with their starting QB. Every loss they gave up over 30 points. Tomlin and his defense are proven failures in the playoffs. 14 years is way longer than most coaches get in the league.. The only people who need more proof if you and the Rooney family.

If they get lucky and beat a slumping Texans team, they have zero shot at winning in KC the next week. I’ll post my credit card info in this thread for you guys to use if they win 2 playoff games this year, let alone the 4 needed to win a Lombardi.

I enjoyed NHALS like a national holiday and am stress free for the annual December slide and playoff failure. These assholes get no more of my emotion.
You're not serious about enjoying this no losing season bullshit. Yeah, seems impossible Steelers would win in arrowhead, but I'll be happy AF for them to have the opportunity.

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:40 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:30 am
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:07 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 am
Needed to pause bungs-doncos at 17-17.

Perch...you seem convinced of a couple things...

-no way Steelers can win a playoff game. Can't agree wi try you on that?

-habe to embrace NHALS or go nuts. Sorry...I do neither. I enjoy seeing my team extend their season as long as possible...tho as I've oft said...don't really enjoy the games, just suffer through them and hope we're happy in the end
It’s been 14 years since the Steelers beat a team in the playoffs with their starting QB. Every loss they gave up over 30 points. Tomlin and his defense are proven failures in the playoffs. 14 years is way longer than most coaches get in the league.. The only people who need more proof if you and the Rooney family.

If they get lucky and beat a slumping Texans team, they have zero shot at winning in KC the next week. I’ll post my credit card info in this thread for you guys to use if they win 2 playoff games this year, let alone the 4 needed to win a Lombardi.

I enjoyed NHALS like a national holiday and am stress free for the annual December slide and playoff failure. These assholes get no more of my emotion.
You're not serious about enjoying this no losing season bullshit. Yeah, seems impossible Steelers would win in arrowhead, but I'll be happy AF for them to have the opportunity.
I thoroughly enjoy NHALS because it’s a reasonable expectation. I know for a fact they have zero shot at winning a SB. I’m not going to bang my head up against a wall or get stressed out because they aren’t winning titles. Ownership set the standard as having a winning record a playoff apperance. That is Rooney’s words and actions. If those assholes aren’t serious about winning titles why the fuck should I be? I created my NHALS celebration thread a few weeks back, had a good time with it then watched the annual collapse with no sense of surprise or bewilderment. I’m not getting into the coyote failing at catching the roadrunner thing with this team. I’m smarter than that. We all knew how this season would end before it started. Spoiler alert, I know how next season goes too.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:11 am

I am finding it funny though- there are still Tomlin defenders out there.

I just watched someone make a post on X lambasting those lousy fair weather Steeler fans who want "instant gratification" and want to tear everything down the instant they don't get it.

I wondered aloud to him as to how long the playoff drought had to go on before even he saw how silly an "instant gratification" argument sounded to him.

8 years? 10 years? 20 years?

Another Steeler fan says hey, we have won 12% of all Super Bowls , and that's the highest percentage of any team (shared with the Patriots)...so things could be worse...we could be Bills fans or Jets fans.

Trying to think of the snarkiest reply I can think of to the "Hey, it could be worse...we could be (insert team name here) fans" argument.

Some Tomlin fans are stout and tenacious...I'll give them that.
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Post by anpsteel » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:44 pm

jeemie wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:11 am
I am finding it funny though- there are still Tomlin defenders out there.

I just watched someone make a post on X lambasting those lousy fair weather Steeler fans who want "instant gratification" and want to tear everything down the instant they don't get it.

I wondered aloud to him as to how long the playoff drought had to go on before even he saw how silly an "instant gratification" argument sounded to him.

8 years? 10 years? 20 years?

Another Steeler fan says hey, we have won 12% of all Super Bowls , and that's the highest percentage of any team (shared with the Patriots)...so things could be worse...we could be Bills fans or Jets fans.

Trying to think of the snarkiest reply I can think of to the "Hey, it could be worse...we could be (insert team name here) fans" argument.

Some Tomlin fans are stout and tenacious...I'll give them that.
It’s the participation trophy crowd combined with the, it could be worse crew

Unfortunately I feel that Art is a member of both groups

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:08 pm

jeemie wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:11 am
I am finding it funny though- there are still Tomlin defenders out there.

I just watched someone make a post on X lambasting those lousy fair weather Steeler fans who want "instant gratification" and want to tear everything down the instant they don't get it.

I wondered aloud to him as to how long the playoff drought had to go on before even he saw how silly an "instant gratification" argument sounded to him.

8 years? 10 years? 20 years?

Another Steeler fan says hey, we have won 12% of all Super Bowls , and that's the highest percentage of any team (shared with the Patriots)...so things could be worse...we could be Bills fans or Jets fans.

Trying to think of the snarkiest reply I can think of to the "Hey, it could be worse...we could be (insert team name here) fans" argument.

Some Tomlin fans are stout and tenacious...I'll give them that.
They’re also incapable of rational thinking
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:39 pm

"It’s the participation trophy crowd combined with the, it could be worse crew

Unfortunately I feel that Art is a member of both groups"

It's worse than that for ownership, they give themselves a championship not just participation trophy for every extension year...white guilt makes it easy to be a champion in your own eyes.

What's more important, winning on the field or being a social justice champion? His answer to that isn't the same as ours.

Steelers are now the least feared of the 14 playoff teams and that includes the winner of the NFC South and West. They are the opposite of the 2005 Steelers, who got hot at the right time.

"Another Steeler fan says hey, we have won 12% of all Super Bowls , and that's the highest percentage of any team (shared with the Patriots)...so things could be worse...we could be Bills fans or Jets fans."

Choosing a starting point strategically makes a huge difference. What about the first forty years of nothing? And some of that was in a ten or twelve team league. Now compare to the Packers.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

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