It's Time to Bench Broderick

[franco32]

I think we have it backwards with Darnell. I would force him to lose 20-30 lbs. He's still be a very good blocker but think about how much more nimble and effective he would be in the passing game.

Then, I'd draft LT with a premium pick and move 77 to guard or out of the league. (I would prefer out of the league.)

As for QB, no one in this draft is giving me a tingling sensation down my leg...that is for sure. But, I still would spend draft capital to take a flier on one in earlier rounds.

[lifelongsteel]

I think we have it backwards with Darnell. I would force him to lose 20-30 lbs. He's still be a very good blocker but think about how much more nimble and effective he would be in the passing game.

Then, I'd draft LT with a premium pick and move 77 to guard or out of the league. (I would prefer out of the league.)

As for QB, no one in this draft is giving me a tingling sensation down my leg...that is for sure. But, I still would spend draft capital to take a flier on one in earlier rounds.

Logical, but hard to fathom going back to OL in R1 when there's a dearth of talent across the roster, including no future QB, no WR who can contribute at a WR2 level, and no young secondary talent outside of Porter (who seems to be sliding). The Steelers might be in the worst long term shape at those 3 critical areas of any team in the league.

For 2026 I would put Fautanu at LT, bring in a competent journeyman to compete with Andersen for the RT/swing positions, and see if Jones can play OG. I doubt he can. Dumb is dumb. and the closer you are to the QB the more dumb hurts you.

[jebrick]

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Devin Bush, every corner he’s ever drafted, and the JAGs that play dline all say hello.

Yep Tomlin not a good picker of horse flesh

Announcing to the world he loved Darrelle Revis only to have Rex Ryan trade up right in front of him definitely Cool Shades welcome to the NFL moment

Timmons was a blah consolation prize but prime Lamar Woodley made up for it

All teams have their share of good and bad

Cowher hit it big with Troy and Ben but rarely mentioned were the flops that followed Alonzo Jackson and Ricardo Colclough

I would have killed them for drafting Troy Edwards even though he was not a bust. Passing on John Tait and Kearse for Edwards was my worst draft moment ever.

[steelheadtrout]

Old 77 has benched himself with a groin injury.

Who steps up?

[gojira5150]

I once had a CEO tell me "Every CEO fails. The great ones just know how to fail fast."

You have to cut bait quickly with the losers. No team in the NFL is slower to move on from failure than the Tomlin-led Pittsburgh Steelers and that is probably their greatest indictment. It took years of Fichtner and Canada and now we have Arthur Smith? It took years to figure out Najee sucked? It takes years to realize Jones is horrible?

Remember Devin "Crap Ass) Bush. Traded up for him He was TERRIBLE!!

Terrell Edmunds over LJ Unbelieveable

Artie "Gets" Burned

Dri "Tiny" Archer over Freeman.

Broderick over Christian Gonzales

[langer]

Old 77 has benched himself with a groin injury.

Who steps up?

YHGTBFKM

Did Arod bench him?

[.Kodiak]

It's amazing how, still after all this time, Tomlin is still such an offensive dolt.

You'd think he would have picked up at least a little watching elite offenses carve up his defensive "schemes" over the years. Of course, it's always about personnel and execution....the "schemes" are infallible.

[LakecrestSteeler]

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Which isn’t an awful philosophy when you have a decent success rate when developing draft picks; Reiner those days?

Now we have the quadruple whammy; can’t draft, can’t develop, regress trades and can’t admit mistakes.

[RealSwiss]

Remember Devin "Crap Ass) Bush. Traded up for him He was TERRIBLE!!

Terrell Edmunds over LJ Unbelieveable

Artie "Gets" Burned

Dri "Tiny" Archer over Freeman.

Broderick over Christian Gonzales

I beleive it was Artie "Third Degree" Burns.

Not sure who originated it, but still one of the best names Ive seen here. I think I did literally laugh out loud the fist time I read it.

It still cracks me up.

[bradshaw2ben]

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

Answer: YES!!!

I look at it this way: You could get Washington the same number of targets as a Tackle-Eligible as he's getting now as a TE.

[steelmann58]

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Spot on my friend

[955876]

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Spot on my friend

I’m in this camp too. Buuuuutttt Dunce is going to want to deliver a 1st round QB to his precious HC with the draft in Pittsburgh.

I’m expecting a lot of hype for what will end up Kenny Pickett 2.0.

[steelmann58]

Ack to the drawing board at tackle

[steelmann58]

Calvin Anderson time oh boy

[langer]

This team drats guys and they die on the vine, no coaching up.

New QBs like Nix and Maye are doing better with experienced coaches who give a shit and aren't cynical lazy scumbags. Pickett isn't good but he got ruined by this group.

[Steeldrama]

This team drats guys and they die on the vine, no coaching up.

New QBs like Nix and Maye are doing better with experienced coaches who give a shit and aren't cynical lazy scumbags. Pickett isn't good but he got ruined by this group.

Well Nix is currently struggle bus out in Denver but I'm sure Payton is very hands on.

Here in my transplant hometown of Atlanta, Mike Penix came out this week and said the only coaching he gets is from his high school coach.

It's not just a Steelers issue.

Najee as we know called out Tomlin not wanting to stay after and watch film, but that fell upon deaf ears.

Broken record I am, but Rodgers is the key to running the bus over Tomlin.

Speaking of not getting any coaching (YOU SUCK, Meyer)....Once Broderick gets him truly injured, my guess Rodgers will blow a gasket or 3 on the state of the Steelers' coaching.

[955876]

Jones needs to play. If he gets Rogers or Rudolph killed so be it.

[K_C_]

Jones needs to play. If he gets Rogers or Rudolph killed so be it.

Like it or not, this is the right answer.

Jones may never work out but this is his first season as an NFL left tackle.

They moved up in the first round to take him. The threads calling for him to be benched will continue I'm sure, but they are pointless.

He isn't going to be benched nor should he. If Jones doesn't show any improvement by the end of the season, then I'm sure the front office will weigh their options but he ain't going anywhere for awhile.

[Ice]

This team drats guys and they die on the vine, no coaching up.

New QBs like Nix and Maye are doing better with experienced coaches who give a shit and aren't cynical lazy scumbags. Pickett isn't good but he got ruined by this group.

Well Nix is currently struggle bus out in Denver but I'm sure Payton is very hands on.

Here in my transplant hometown of Atlanta, Mike Penix came out this week and said the only coaching he gets is from his high school coach.

It's not just a Steelers issue.

Najee as we know called out Tomlin not wanting to stay after and watch film, but that fell upon deaf ears.

Broken record I am, but Rodgers is the key to running the bus over Tomlin.

Speaking of not getting any coaching (YOU SUCK, Meyer)....Once Broderick gets him truly injured, my guess Rodgers will blow a gasket or 3 on the state of the Steelers' coaching.

With McCormick, Fautanu and Frazier playing pretty well, I'm a little worried it's getting harder to blame Meyer for Brod. I mean, I'm still here for it, though.

[stillthere]

I once had a CEO tell me "Every CEO fails. The great ones just know how to fail fast."

You have to cut bait quickly with the losers. No team in the NFL is slower to move on from failure than the Tomlin-led Pittsburgh Steelers and that is probably their greatest indictment. It took years of Fichtner and Canada and now we have Arthur Smith? It took years to figure out Najee sucked? It takes years to realize Jones is horrible?

The 90's and early 2000's teams had depth and talent ready to step up (Next man up). Lots of players we cut were instantly scooped up or signed away in free agency. Now we are one of the teams that scrape the barrel of players cut by good teams.

[stillthere]

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Most teams don't

The Steelers will admit theirs when then don't offer the 5th year tender.

off the top of my head the Cardinals went QB in round 1 back to back years.
Cowher cut the OT from Pitt in the players second year. He even asked if he was allowed to cut a first rounder in year 2.
I am sure a quick search in ChatGPT or Grok could amass a decent list quickly.

[stillthere]

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Most teams don't

The Steelers will admit theirs when then don't offer the 5th year tender.

I can remember two that this team might have admitted.

Huey Richardson and Jalaim Stephenson.

Najee Harris

[stillthere]

Larry Timmons would be close to the best player on this defense.

I think the plan has to be Darnell Washington at LT next year. Kick Broderick in to G. Might work. If Washington is only going to get 27 snaps and 1 target, why bother with him at TE. He could have massive impact as an OL.

Plus, run some unbalanced, Tackle-eligible stuff with him and he'd get the same amount of targets, anyway.

If he reports as eligible from the field of play he has to leave for a snap to renter as non eligible when he returns to tackle so any snaps he takes as eligible you have to keep the back up in for one more play than he is eligible.

[stillthere]

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Same. The idea of going QB, to me, was more predicated on the (slim) hope that the roster was a LOT closer to set than it is. The quick aging of the OLBs and the flop of Jones at LT has left several of the most important positions on the team in shambles. Could certainly add into the nasty tasting stew that the QB class itself isn't all that, and for the kicker, it's Tomlin and his Merry Band that are going to be picking, then "coaching" and "developing" said QB, and it's just an awful, awful idea. Unfortunately, it very well might be one that the team isn't going to steer away from.

Draft in Pittsburgh too. We are going to way overpay draft picks to move up and snag Tomlin's QB for the next 10-15 years is the story they are scheming up right now and have been since last draft.

[955876]

Larry Timmons would be close to the best player on this defense.

I think the plan has to be Darnell Washington at LT next year. Kick Broderick in to G. Might work. If Washington is only going to get 27 snaps and 1 target, why bother with him at TE. He could have massive impact as an OL.

Plus, run some unbalanced, Tackle-eligible stuff with him and he'd get the same amount of targets, anyway.

If he reports as eligible from the field of play he has to leave for a snap to renter as non eligible when he returns to tackle so any snaps he takes as eligible you have to keep the back up in for one more play than he is eligible.

Not worth it to me. He’s either a TE or become a T.

No way this team could coordinate that switcharoo.

[stillthere]

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

Wait, they want Arod to move to LT or Broderick the Terrible? I can believe either.

I also need clarification on what Kodiak was trying to say

Move Washington to OT and Rodgers said "Are you nuts" because he is a physical mismatch 97% of the time he is doing things in space.

[stillthere]

I think we have it backwards with Darnell. I would force him to lose 20-30 lbs. He's still be a very good blocker but think about how much more nimble and effective he would be in the passing game.

Then, I'd draft LT with a premium pick and move 77 to guard or out of the league. (I would prefer out of the league.)

As for QB, no one in this draft is giving me a tingling sensation down my leg...that is for sure. But, I still would spend draft capital to take a flier on one in earlier rounds.

Jones is 24 they are not moving on from him yet. He is younger than Fautanu.

[955876]

I think we have it backwards with Darnell. I would force him to lose 20-30 lbs. He's still be a very good blocker but think about how much more nimble and effective he would be in the passing game.

Then, I'd draft LT with a premium pick and move 77 to guard or out of the league. (I would prefer out of the league.)

As for QB, no one in this draft is giving me a tingling sensation down my leg...that is for sure. But, I still would spend draft capital to take a flier on one in earlier rounds.

Jones is 24 they are not moving on from him yet. He is younger than Fautanu.

Put me on the team that says have DW slim down to be more nimble. He will still be a great blocker for a TE.

Awesome RZ target and can still run some routes. Would flourish on a smart team.

Will never be an explosive TE but a very very good #2 that can be your #1 if injuries occur.

We are a dumb team though.

So dumb that we can’t even get our #1 RB into a groove in a game we haven’t moved the ball and end up putting our 3rd string rookie RB on the field backed up against our own EZ because their lame “script” said that is the drive he comes in.

Fuck these idiots.

[CoolShades]

It's amazing how, still after all this time, Tomlin is still such an offensive dolt.

You'd think he would have picked up at least a little watching elite offenses carve up his defensive "schemes" over the years. Of course, it's always about personnel and execution....the "schemes" are infallible.

I really don’t think he’s very bright.

If you ever listen to John Gruden talk x’s and o’s, you get a sense of what real football knowledge sounds like.

Tomlin can’t talk x’s and o’s. He speaks in made up parables, nonsense rhymes and phrases.

Quite simply, the man’s an idiot.

[langer]

It's amazing how, still after all this time, Tomlin is still such an offensive dolt.

You'd think he would have picked up at least a little watching elite offenses carve up his defensive "schemes" over the years. Of course, it's always about personnel and execution....the "schemes" are infallible.

I really don’t think he’s very bright.

If you ever listen to John Gruden talk x’s and o’s, you get a sense of what real football knowledge sounds like.

Tomlin can’t talk x’s and o’s. He speaks in made up parables, nonsense rhymes and phrases.

Quite simply, the man’s an idiot.

He's a figurehead and a delegator. He doesn't need to know about the technical details. That's for his fellas.