Watson done for season

[SteelerDayTrader]

Cut this motherfucking bullshit out right now

Do not tempt fates on a streak

[stillthere]

What a great investment by the Clowns.

Only a meager $200 million fully guaranteed remaining on that deal.

And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.

Good

[rooneytunes]

Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.

I think it's hilarious that you think there is a possibility if this NOT being a 4th quarter death match.

Over the last 3 seasons, the Steelers have won just 3 games by more than 1 score:

2021 - Week 17 Steelers 26, Browns 14 (Najee 37 yard TD with 51 seconds left to extend to 2 score game)
2022 - Week 10 Steelers 20, Saints 10 (Pickett 1 yard run with 8:38 left to extend to 2 score game)
2022 - Week 17 Steelers 28, Browns 14 (Watt 1 yard run with 4:37 left to extend to a 2 score game)

It's a near certainty that this will be a 4th quarter death match. Unless the Browns blow them out, of course.

Note: There could be some games where the other team scored late to close to within 1 score. I am too lazy to find them.

[Ice]

Only a meager $200 million fully guaranteed remaining on that deal.

And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.

That’s gotta rub them the wrong way.

This post... is definitely the thread winner. Every female fan at work who reacted to this today, regardless of team fandom, did so with some version of the Nelson laugh, and it's well deserved.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I’m glad there is this pressure on Kenny. He needs pressure. It’s sink or swim time broham.

The only reason I am glad for this is that it signals a whole team approach to help him get better, meaning the game plan should reflect as such. Maybe a mini air-assault game is coming this week with all hands on deck to execute it…maybe we can finally get a decent evaluation? I’d like to a see about 3 series with just all passes if we have a feeling the run game halo has paid dividends for this game, with 8 in the box and play action working without necessarily having established it.

[franco32]

This Watson news kinda stinks. Why? Because Tomlin will go even more conservative...caveman conservative on Sunday. He will view punts as small victories...

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah the confluence of the Unleash hell venue, the no-name QB looking like a stud, the HC who outcoached Tomlin from his basement, and the OL backups off the street are scaring me a little ngl

The Browns are 1-4 vs the Steelers since that playoff game.

And can someone please point me to an example of a no-name QB looking like a stud vs the Steelers?

Mike Glennon and Terrelle Pryor were the first to come to mind, but I'll make you a list.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah the confluence of the Unleash hell venue, the no-name QB looking like a stud, the HC who outcoached Tomlin from his basement, and the OL backups off the street are scaring me a little ngl

The Browns are 1-4 vs the Steelers since that playoff game.

And can someone please point me to an example of a no-name QB looking like a stud vs the Steelers?

Mike Glennon and Terrelle Pryor were the first to come to mind, but I'll make you a list.

Brett Hundley, Carson Wentz, Tim Tebow, Matt Cassel, Bruce Gradkowski, Brian Hoyer, Zach Mettenberger, Jakoby Brissett, Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez, Kerry Collins, Brock Osweiler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Deshone Kiser, Jeff Driskel, Kevin Kolb, Justin Fields, Mike Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Moore, Johnny Manziel, Ryan Mallett, Blake Bortles, AJ McCarron, Zach Wilson... all had either a passer rating north of 90 or had career-type numbers vs the Steelers under Mike Tomlin.

[955876]

Ouch. Quite the list.

[Jizz Mop]

The Browns are 1-4 vs the Steelers since that playoff game.

And can someone please point me to an example of a no-name QB looking like a stud vs the Steelers?

Mike Glennon and Terrelle Pryor were the first to come to mind, but I'll make you a list.

Brett Hundley, Carson Wentz, Tim Tebow, Matt Cassel, Bruce Gradkowski, Brian Hoyer, Zach Mettenberger, Jakoby Brissett, Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez, Kerry Collins, Brock Osweiler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Deshone Kiser, Jeff Driskel, Kevin Kolb, Justin Fields, Mike Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Moore, Johnny Manziel, Ryan Mallett, Blake Bortles, AJ McCarron, Zach Wilson... all had either a passer rating north of 90 or had career-type numbers vs the Steelers under Mike Tomlin.

I was at my daughter’s lax tournament for the Ryan Mallett game

Tourney was in MD so it was on in the concession area of the stadium

Put me in a terrible mood

[Pabst]

The Browns are 1-4 vs the Steelers since that playoff game.

And can someone please point me to an example of a no-name QB looking like a stud vs the Steelers?

Mike Glennon and Terrelle Pryor were the first to come to mind, but I'll make you a list.

Brett Hundley, Carson Wentz, Tim Tebow, Matt Cassel, Bruce Gradkowski, Brian Hoyer, Zach Mettenberger, Jakoby Brissett, Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez, Kerry Collins, Brock Osweiler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Deshone Kiser, Jeff Driskel, Kevin Kolb, Justin Fields, Mike Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Moore, Johnny Manziel, Ryan Mallett, Blake Bortles, AJ McCarron, Zach Wilson... all had either a passer rating north of 90 or had career-type numbers vs the Steelers under Mike Tomlin.

Dude....several of these are a severe stretch.

Johnny Manziel - this game was a blowout. Manziel didn't throw a TD pass until the 4th quarter when the Browns were already down 3 TDs

Matt Moore - Same as above - Steelers were up *24* when Moore threw his first TD pass with 5:00 to go in the game. Blowout win.

Brock Osweiler - From the Broncos Super Bowl year? Osweiler went 5-2 as a starter that year, which included wins over New England and Cincy. He also completed <50% of his passes in this game.

Kerry Collins, Carson Wentz, Matt Cassel, - What? Every single one of these guys made a Pro Bowl in his career. How is that a no-name QB?


I'd keep going but i have to run home. Should also note that just about every name on here is from the 2011-2016 period when the D bottomed out.

[Pabst]

While I'm stuck in traffic....

Jeff Driskell didn't start that game. He was also sacked a ton (which isn't reflected in qbr)

Kizer was a Week 17 match where the Steelers rested starters

Bortles played the Steelers 4 times and looked like shit in 3 of them. Should also be noted he game NE all they could handle in the AFCCG that year

[Pabst]

Tyrod Taylor

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

[Orangesteel]

Even if some of those guys didn’t have great games…that is some goddamn list. Holy smokes. I guess that’s what you get for being in the league that long? Kidding.

Look, nobody will be comfortable Sunday. That’s because we’ve seen this before. It’s just a matter of fact it will be a game decided between 1-3 points.

[Orangesteel]

Tyrod Taylor

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

[Pabst]

Tyrod Taylor

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

Well they've both lost to Gardner Minshew this year.

I'll dive in later when I get a minute

[Orangesteel]

Minshew is a legend. We should have signed him.

[Ice]

Minshew's pornstache and mullet are legends. The rest of him is mid.

[Pabst]

Minshew is a legend. We should have signed him.

I've gone thru a few years of Billy B. Some names, based on the above criteria:
Davis Mills, Ryan Fitzpatrick (several times), Justin Fields, Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Mike Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Sam Bradford, EJ Manuel, Jason Campbell, Chad Henne, Rex Grossman

Ok, gotta run before my wife kills me

[TTP]

This Watson news kinda stinks. Why? Because Tomlin will go even more conservative...caveman conservative on Sunday. He will view punts as small victories...

I'm afraid of this too. And, Stefanski will be less like to inexplicably move away from the running game, which he tends to with Watson at QB.

[stillthere]

Mike Glennon and Terrelle Pryor were the first to come to mind, but I'll make you a list.

Brett Hundley, Carson Wentz, Tim Tebow, Matt Cassel, Bruce Gradkowski, Brian Hoyer, Zach Mettenberger, Jakoby Brissett, Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez, Kerry Collins, Brock Osweiler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Deshone Kiser, Jeff Driskel, Kevin Kolb, Justin Fields, Mike Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Moore, Johnny Manziel, Ryan Mallett, Blake Bortles, AJ McCarron, Zach Wilson... all had either a passer rating north of 90 or had career-type numbers vs the Steelers under Mike Tomlin.

I was at my daughter’s lax tournament for the Ryan Mallett game

Tourney was in MD so it was on in the concession area of the stadium

Put me in a terrible mood

It still has me in a bad mood. That game was ridiculous.

[stillthere]

This Watson news kinda stinks. Why? Because Tomlin will go even more conservative...caveman conservative on Sunday. He will view punts as small victories...

I'm afraid of this too. And, Stefanski will be less like to inexplicably move away from the running game, which he tends to with Watson at QB.

That is fine. JPJ shadows Cooper and the rest of the D focuses on stopping the run and TE.

[Orangesteel]

Minshew's pornstache and mullet are legends. The rest of him is mid.

Fair.

But what I’d give for a mid QB right now, compared to what we have.

[Pabst]

Tyrod Taylor

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

Josh McCown owes his career to John Harbaugh, apparently: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... opp_id=rav

Two other good names: Brodie Croyle, Charlie Frye

I'm starting to go cross-eyed, so I'll stop there

[CKSteeler]

And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.

That’s gotta rub them the wrong way.

This post... is definitely the thread winner. Every female fan at work who reacted to this today, regardless of team fandom, did so with some version of the Nelson laugh, and it's well deserved.

Yea, poor Deshaun is just going to be wiping his tears with dollar bills the rest of his life thinking about what could have been of his career.

[bradshaw2ben]

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

Josh McCown owes his career to John Harbaugh, apparently: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... opp_id=rav

Two other good names: Brodie Croyle, Charlie Frye

I'm starting to go cross-eyed, so I'll stop there

Haha. I made you a list on a lark—sorry you got stuck in the bad QB good game rabbit hole!

I think what the list I made really said to me was: even mediocre to bad to average QBs can have a big game here and there—why it’s wise to not bet your life that a lesser QB will be bad in a particular game.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Tyrod Taylor

Missed this one.

Taylor racked up 22 wins in 3 years as a starter in Buffalo (which is where his decent game vs Pittsburgh happened). That's hardly a "no-name QB"

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

Everyone has lists like that….otherwise Harbaugh and Belichick, for example, would be at 90% win rate. Perhaps with Brady the list was shorter, but post Brady the names are piling up.

The lists have to exist otherwise no QB would ever ascend to greatness or no QB would ever get second and third chances.

[jebrick]

Minshew is a legend. We should have signed him.

He would have competed with Kenny so that was a no.

[Pabst]

Still…Bill B. up in New England doesn’t have a list like that does he? Or Harbaugh? I realize Belichick cheated for 90% of his success but he will be revered as one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of football apart from his HC duties.

I’m actually asking because I have no idea if they have lists like that.

Josh McCown owes his career to John Harbaugh, apparently: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... opp_id=rav

Two other good names: Brodie Croyle, Charlie Frye

I'm starting to go cross-eyed, so I'll stop there

Haha. I made you a list on a lark—sorry you got stuck in the bad QB good game rabbit hole!

I think what the list I made really said to me was: even mediocre to bad to average QBs can have a big game here and there—why it’s wise to not bet your life that a lesser QB will be bad in a particular game.

Apology accepted

My overarching point, however, is twofold:
- Any coach who's been around long enough has had a bad game against a crap QB. Not unique to the Steelers.
- This is the main one: If you look back at any of the truly egregious examples in your list, you'll find a common theme of the O playing like shit. The Mallett game is a perfect example. Was it the D making him look like an all pro, or was it the Offense turning the ball over 3 times (and failing on 4th down twice)?

[W&M_Steeler]

Posting this for no reason whatsoever

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Sadly, Dobbs might be better than both QBs starting this week in Steelers v Browns.