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Re: Steelers Trade For Justin Fields

Post by Havoc » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:17 am

.Kodiak wrote:
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Jams wrote:
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We are light years ahead of last years QB room, in terms of raw talent. Lets hope Smith can bring out the best in them.
I'm not getting out over my skis. They acquired two guys no one else seemed to want.
Getting out over skis is exactly what's happening.


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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:41 am

chippedhamsandwich wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:15 pm
It’s been done before, can Fields get into the game and be Slash 2.0??

Dude can run….
Florio threw out the Slash comp too

I shrugged it off thinking Tomlin not smart enough to try that

BUT

Uncle Artie did a little of that with Cordarelle Patterson

AND

Kirby Smart had some packages for Fields his one year in Athens.

I think the defensive vets have made it clear Russ is their guy by recruiting him

So barring really bad qb play or a Russ injury , Fields only way onto the field would be situational packages in this his contract year

He’d be a selfish Kenny PRICKett if he refused

Keep up the excellent work KHAAAAAN!!!!
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:28 am

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More than anything I'm shocked they got Fields that cheap
I don’t think you fully appreciate how bad Fields is.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:30 am

tbsteel wrote:
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Fields does suck but he can be a good number 2. Problem is we gave away draft capital for a one yr player. If Wilson gets hurt that turns into a 4th rounder.
My guess is they don't pick up the 5th year option and sign him to a smaller extension through 2025.

That way in 2025 they'll have Fields and then likely a high draft pick made in 2025 to battle it out.
Best case scenario
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Post by Jtf » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:40 am

K_C_ wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:44 pm
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Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:37 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:30 pm


Finally something we agree on.

Wilson should be better than what we had.

Fields? Thank Christ they only gave up a conditional 6th for him.

Stay healthy, Russ!!
Fields for a 2025 6th to fill the back up role seems like a good thing

Call me crazy
Next year is going to be a whole helluva lot of fun to watch.

That's for sure.
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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:46 am

I am not a fields is the answer he didn’t impress me at all but then again the price was right and who knows
maybe are new Qb Coach can figure this puzzle out. But can’t complain about the money for Wilson. Either way think they are better

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Post by steelclan » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:14 am

Pabst wrote:
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If you're not following Antonio Brown on Twitter right now you are missing out :lol:

https://x.com/AB84
Wow lol.

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Post by steelclan » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:18 am

Fields is low risk and yes he has some genuine talent. Now whether that ever amounts to the "light" coming on? Probably not but it is worth a late 4th rounder.

Those listing his stats, sure not great but he was also in a pretty shitty situation in Chicago. Not as if that offense was loaded and the oline was nothing special.

I have zero issue with Steelers rolling the dice on him.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:24 am

Justin Fields is one of the best running QB's the league has ever seen. He can be a weapon. Is he going to be the QB the team needs? I doubt it, but a smart offensive coach could most definitely find a use for him. He's worth giving up essentially nothing.

And people posting those stats are conveniently leaving out the rushing TD's to try and make Pickett look more favorable. Even as a passer, Pickett was posting historically awful TD percentages. Fields was not only more productive as a passer, but blows him away when factoring in the rushing.

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Post by Stallworth16 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:50 am

There is a lot of highlights and lowlights of Justin Fields on YouTube. But here’s a recent one by former QB Chase Daniel on the positive side of things.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSmaAfdXaCA

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Post by CoolShades » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:41 pm
CoolShades wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:12 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:57 pm


Kenny knob gobblers haven’t realized he sucks or that he quit on you (twice) yet. Sad. We have two far better QBs on the roster now, why waste a second on that quitting bitch?
Show me where I gobbled Pickett’s knob once. I just don’t believe the QB is the problem.

Keep sucking Tomlin cock. That coach is an unquestioned super genius.
I am a Kenny hater, I hated him long before the Steelers drafted him because it was apparent he would suck in the NFL. You can find my opinion on Pickett on this site from well before the draft. What you’ll never find is me fellating Mike Tomlin. I understand that you’re mad about the HC and both QBs being black, but at least get my opinions right.
Why would I care what color the QB’s are? They all suck. But you seem to care. “Oh, he doesn’t agree with me. I’ll imply he’s a racist!” Nice.

I’m just excited virtue signalers won’t be able to criticize the coach OR the QB now.

That will make you a racist.

Oh, and it was apparent to you that he would suck in the NFL? Wow. That’s quite the ego you have. What are your NFL bona fides? I’ll make sure to get all Steeler draft pick analysis from you from now on. And I’ll be sure to read every single post you’ve ever made, because you are a wealth of NFL knowledge. You should have told the Steelers, you would have saved them 2 seasons. What a wasted resource you are!

And I’m supposed to worry about getting your opinions right, but you have no problem getting mine wrong? GTFO

That’s quite a Tomlin-esque level of arrogance you have going there.

Send in the clowns!
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Post by CoolShades » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:19 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:24 am
Justin Fields is one of the best running QB's the league has ever seen. He can be a weapon. Is he going to be the QB the team needs? I doubt it, but a smart offensive coach could most definitely find a use for him. He's worth giving up essentially nothing.

And people posting those stats are conveniently leaving out the rushing TD's to try and make Pickett look more favorable. Even as a passer, Pickett was posting historically awful TD percentages. Fields was not only more productive as a passer, but blows him away when factoring in the rushing.
No one is (I don’t think, anyway) arguing Fields isn’t a great athlete. He’s not a good QB. If he was, Chicago wouldn’t be dumping him and starting over. They spent 3 seasons building an offense around him, and what did he win, 10 games?

He’s also a turnover machine. Fumbles and INTs are a staple in his play. Given the way Tomlin is adverse to such things, I can’t see this working.

However, the stress of Fields constantly turning the ball over could give Jibbs a heart attack... hmm

Let’s go Fields!
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Post by CoolShades » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:24 pm

steelclan wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:14 am
Pabst wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:56 am
If you're not following Antonio Brown on Twitter right now you are missing out :lol:

https://x.com/AB84
Wow lol.
I just noticed he has 1.7 million followers and he’s following 1 person. I assume he’s following himself.

:lol: :lol:
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Post by Havoc » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:28 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:30 am
tbsteel wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:15 pm
franco32 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:14 pm
Fields does suck but he can be a good number 2. Problem is we gave away draft capital for a one yr player. If Wilson gets hurt that turns into a 4th rounder.
My guess is they don't pick up the 5th year option and sign him to a smaller extension through 2025.

That way in 2025 they'll have Fields and then likely a high draft pick made in 2025 to battle it out.
Best case scenario
I am concerned that they won't end up doing this.
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Post by drmalba » Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:21 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:50 pm
Paxton Lynch, Dwayne Haskins, Mitch Trubisky, Justin Fields... Tomlin has been on a first round bust reclamation project the past few years. I expect Fields will turn out just as well as those did.

At least a 2025 6th is essentially nothing (especially since the Steelers have 3 7th rounders next year :lol: ). I just hope they don't jump the gun an execute Fields' option.
Ive been thinking a lot about Dwayne Haskins, especislly.last year seeing Kenny regress. IMO His untimely and still baffling death is a huge part of why we ended up on the trajectory we did w/KP8. By all accounts he was a reclamation project that was actually pointing in the right direction. It's impossible to say for sure, but maybe with Haskins Trubisky Rudolph I'm not so sure we reach on KP8 in the first round. I'm fairly sure Trubisky still would have proved a complete turd, and Rudolph is now our starter.
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Post by CoolShades » Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:24 pm

drmalba wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:21 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:50 pm
Paxton Lynch, Dwayne Haskins, Mitch Trubisky, Justin Fields... Tomlin has been on a first round bust reclamation project the past few years. I expect Fields will turn out just as well as those did.

At least a 2025 6th is essentially nothing (especially since the Steelers have 3 7th rounders next year :lol: ). I just hope they don't jump the gun an execute Fields' option.
Ive been thinking a lot about Dwayne Haskins, especislly.last year seeing Kenny regress. IMO His untimely and still baffling death is a huge part of why we ended up on the trajectory we did. By all accounts he was a reclamation project that was actually pointing in the right direction. It's impossible to say for sure, but maybe with Haskins Trubisky Rudolph I'm not so sure we reach on KP8 in the first round. I'm fairly sure Trubisky still would have proved a complete turd, and Rudolph is now our starter.
Go watch Haskins on film. He had terrible mechanics. He was another waste of a roster spot.

Tomlin clearly hated Mason. Not sure why, but he did.

He has no idea what he’s doing with QBs. 17 years. Without Ben, he’s nothing.
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Post by Pabst » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:00 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:28 am
Pabst wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:02 pm
More than anything I'm shocked they got Fields that cheap
I don’t think you fully appreciate how bad Fields is.
Guess not....

If you'd have told me a 6th rounder was all they'd be giving up I would have been singing a different tune.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:25 pm

Gave up next to nothing for Fields. Don’t need to reach for QB in the draft. Excellent move.

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Post by fractalsteel » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:32 pm

Pabst wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:56 am
If you're not following Antonio Brown on Twitter right now you are missing out :lol:

https://x.com/AB84
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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:09 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:28 am
Pabst wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:02 pm
More than anything I'm shocked they got Fields that cheap
I don’t think you fully appreciate how bad Fields is.
Please explain, B2B. I value your football analysis moreso than just about anyone else on this esteemed website. I've asked for an explanation on the Kahn thread as well. Specifically, comp. Fields to Pickett....please?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:16 pm

@swissvale72 Neither one is good. Fields can run better and has a stronger arm.

He needs a really clever coaching staff to even get marginally effective play out of him-- I doubt that's waiting for him in Pittsburgh.

Also, he turns the ball over like he gets a performance bonus for them. 68 (SIXTY-EIGHT!!!) turnovers in 40 games.
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Post by .Kodiak » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:29 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:16 pm
Also, he turns the ball over like he gets a performance bonus for them. 68 (SIXTY-EIGHT!!!) turnovers in 40 games.
It's going to be fun to see what Fields looks like after they drill risk aversion and ball security into his head. Won't run or throw the ball because he's too afraid of turning it over. Probably just take the snap and go directly into the fetal position. And STILL fumble it 2-3 times.

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:46 pm

Sooo…..moot point, but….would Pickett have been a better backup to Wilson ?

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:47 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
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@swissvale72 Neither one is good. Fields can run better and has a stronger arm.

He needs a really clever coaching staff to even get marginally effective play out of him-- I doubt that's waiting for him in Pittsburgh.

Also, he turns the ball over like he gets a performance bonus for them. 68 (SIXTY-EIGHT!!!) turnovers in 40 games.
My opinion is they are both bad in a similar way. Bad pocket presence and shaky accuracy. The difference is, Fields has the ability to turn bad pocket presence into a 60 yard run and has a strong arm. He will mix those bad plays with WOW plays that Pickett never could. If we signed Fields to a 5 year deal to be the starter, I’d be pissed. Essentially swapping Pickett for Fields is a steal. It’s all about perspective.

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:53 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:46 pm
Sooo…..moot point, but….would Pickett have been a better backup to Wilson ?
He’s a quitting bitch, Swiss. Pickett out of Pittsburgh is the best case scenario.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:05 pm

CoolShades wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:41 pm
CoolShades wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:12 pm


Show me where I gobbled Pickett’s knob once. I just don’t believe the QB is the problem.

Keep sucking Tomlin cock. That coach is an unquestioned super genius.
I am a Kenny hater, I hated him long before the Steelers drafted him because it was apparent he would suck in the NFL. You can find my opinion on Pickett on this site from well before the draft. What you’ll never find is me fellating Mike Tomlin. I understand that you’re mad about the HC and both QBs being black, but at least get my opinions right.
Why would I care what color the QB’s are? They all suck. But you seem to care. “Oh, he doesn’t agree with me. I’ll imply he’s a racist!” Nice.

I’m just excited virtue signalers won’t be able to criticize the coach OR the QB now.

That will make you a racist.

Oh, and it was apparent to you that he would suck in the NFL? Wow. That’s quite the ego you have. What are your NFL bona fides? I’ll make sure to get all Steeler draft pick analysis from you from now on. And I’ll be sure to read every single post you’ve ever made, because you are a wealth of NFL knowledge. You should have told the Steelers, you would have saved them 2 seasons. What a wasted resource you are!

And I’m supposed to worry about getting your opinions right, but you have no problem getting mine wrong? GTFO

That’s quite a Tomlin-esque level of arrogance you have going there.

Send in the clowns!
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:18 pm

Russ is the starter for one year. Gotta have backup QBs. At minimum Fields has a big arm and can force defenses to account for QB runs. IF Wilson has a great year the Steelers are contenders. Can Fields be a backup that could sneak a few Ws if needed ??

I really hope the Steelers put top draft capital at CB and OT and let Herbig have a shot at center

This team could contend with a great draft and some luck
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Post by tbsteel » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:32 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:53 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:46 pm
Sooo…..moot point, but….would Pickett have been a better backup to Wilson ?
He’s a quitting bitch, Swiss. Pickett out of Pittsburgh is the best case scenario.
Pickett isn't even a quality backup. He's a scrambling QB who can't scramble, has a weak arm, can't read a defense to save his life, and is always hurt because he's just a lil guy.

Fun Kenny Pickett stats:

* Joe Flacco has as many passing TDs in five games playing for the Browns than Pickett does in his Steelers career.

* Tommy DeVito had more multi-TD passing games in his first two career starts than Pickett has had in his entire career.

* Pickett has 0 games with 300 or more passing yards. Jake Browning did that 3 times alone this past December.

* There are 315 QBs in NFL history that have thrown 500 or more passes. Of those 315 players, Kenny Pickett is dead last, 315th, in touchdowns per throw. The absolute worst in NFL history.

I really do not think Steelers fans appreciate how fucking awful Pickett was.
*reserves the right to roots for losses*

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Post by .Kodiak » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:37 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:32 pm
Fun Kenny Pickett stats:

* Joe Flacco has as many passing TDs in five games playing for the Browns than Pickett does in his Steelers career.

* Tommy DeVito had more multi-TD passing games in his first two career starts than Pickett has had in his entire career.

* Pickett has 0 games with 300 or more passing yards. Jake Browning did that 3 times alone this past December.

* There are 315 QBs in NFL history that have thrown 500 or more passes. Of those 315 players, Kenny Pickett is dead last, 315th, in touchdowns per throw. The absolute worst in NFL history.

I really do not think Steelers fans appreciate how fucking awful Pickett was.
No do DJ's TD's per game with Pickett and without Pickett :D

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:32 pm

Glad they’re making unprecedented moves this FA period. Nice to see.

I can also see Chicago laughing their asses off that they sent us back a turd/Fields to make up for them getting fleeced for the turd/Chase.

They had better offers from other teams but “did right by him” sending him to us because that’s where he wanted to go.

Lets hope he progresses and it all works out.

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