I gotta believe it's cheap as fuck (hopefully) Russ, and a DT in the first round...qb next year...maybeK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 amIf Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
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Dulac is reporting, Russ is "out of consideration" for the Steelers.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:43 pmI gotta believe it's cheap as fuck (hopefully) Russ, and a DT in the first round...qb next year...maybeK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 amIf Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
Apparently, the Steelers are meeting with Aaron Rodgers this afternoon.
Has he gotten injured yet?
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I’d take Russ over Rodgers right now every day of the week and twice on Sundays.Stillchest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:47 pmDulac is reporting, Russ is "out of consideration" for the Steelers.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:43 pmI gotta believe it's cheap as fuck (hopefully) Russ, and a DT in the first round...qb next year...maybeK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 am
If Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
Apparently, the Steelers are meeting with Aaron Rodgers this afternoon.
My God please say you’re bullshitting. Rodgers can’t move anymore. Rodgers makes Russ look like Lamar.
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Why do you think I am 99% of the way to being an Eagles fan now?bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:09 amIt's like they're not satisfied until they can build a team that achieves NHALS, gets blown out in the playoffs, and sets the franchise back another 5 years.StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:18 amI'm guessing Steelers will end up with Darnold now
This is absolutely the calculus, and probably why we are waiting so long to make the move a quarterback.
Tomlin is assessing what quarterback is out there still that will guarantee him nine wins, and I don't think he thinks Fields is that quarterback.
Tomlin will not risk winning fewer than nine games. He simply won't do it.
I don't care what anyone else tries to tell me. NHALS is all he has left.
It is the only reason the pundits still think he's a great coach.
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But Rodgers can probably win nine games.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:00 pmI’d take Russ over Rodgers right now every day of the week and twice on Sundays.Stillchest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:47 pmDulac is reporting, Russ is "out of consideration" for the Steelers.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:43 pm
I gotta believe it's cheap as fuck (hopefully) Russ, and a DT in the first round...qb next year...maybe
Apparently, the Steelers are meeting with Aaron Rodgers this afternoon.
My God please say you’re bullshitting. Rodgers can’t move anymore. Rodgers makes Russ look like Lamar.
You seriously have to take that into consideration whenever you try and predict any Steelers moves... What move makes Tomlin feel like winning nine games is still likely?
I'm telling you this is why they won't pull the trigger on Fields or guarantee him anything... Because Tomlin can't know for sure that Fields will win him 9 games.
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Rodgers is interesting. On one hand, he looked really bad last year and is super old. On the other hand, the first season back after the kind of injury he had is rough. There is a real possibility he is better than last year. If you are bargain bin shopping for QB, might as well take a chance on a high variance guy.Stillchest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:47 pmDulac is reporting, Russ is "out of consideration" for the Steelers.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:43 pmI gotta believe it's cheap as fuck (hopefully) Russ, and a DT in the first round...qb next year...maybeK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 am
If Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
Apparently, the Steelers are meeting with Aaron Rodgers this afternoon.
It would also be interesting since Rodgers would probably call Tomlin out (which is why I don't see him coming here). Would be interesting if Rodgers did call Tomlin out who Ben would end up backing up.
Dart would be a nice garnish to the shit sandwich.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 amIf Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
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Rodgers behind the Steeler's oline is a sure recipe for injury. That said both of last year's QBs missed time.
Not vertically challenged like Wilson. Unlike JF reads a defense and goes through multiple progressions.
Can still make the throws to all areas of the field, may even utilize a tight end.
He is much more likely to go rogue and ditch the run play than Rus or Fields.
At some point he might passive aggressively call out the coaching staff for BS. Can be a total A-Hole.
Have been against signing him but as I type this out I'm starting to think it could be quite entertaining.
Not vertically challenged like Wilson. Unlike JF reads a defense and goes through multiple progressions.
Can still make the throws to all areas of the field, may even utilize a tight end.
He is much more likely to go rogue and ditch the run play than Rus or Fields.
At some point he might passive aggressively call out the coaching staff for BS. Can be a total A-Hole.
Have been against signing him but as I type this out I'm starting to think it could be quite entertaining.
I'm 100% behind getting Rodgers in.
This team can only operate with an asshole at QB who won't listen to the idiots running the show.
He is the type and he still flashes some skills. If he can do a Manning dink and dunk they could score some points.
Plus the drama would be entertaining and a nice cherry on top of a Coach Mike shit sundae.
This team can only operate with an asshole at QB who won't listen to the idiots running the show.
He is the type and he still flashes some skills. If he can do a Manning dink and dunk they could score some points.
Plus the drama would be entertaining and a nice cherry on top of a Coach Mike shit sundae.
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Rodgers had Garrett Wilson and Davante Adams plus a good running game and he was fucking awful in NYC last season.
Awful.
Sure, his offensive line was terrible but does anybody really think the Steelers offensive line with Broderick Jones likely at LT and a rookie (for all pracitical purposes) Troy Fautanu at RT will be better?
My God.
Awful.
Sure, his offensive line was terrible but does anybody really think the Steelers offensive line with Broderick Jones likely at LT and a rookie (for all pracitical purposes) Troy Fautanu at RT will be better?
My God.
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They’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
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And no more manufacturing open looks for Darnold, compared to KOC.Stlcrtn1974 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:47 amImagine how Darnold will look after he is neutered by Tomlin. No middle of the field, short safe passes all within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, take your deep sideline shots on 3rd and 4th and 1.StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:40 ambradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:09 am
It's like they're not satisfied until they can build a team that achieves NHALS, gets blown out in the playoffs, and sets the franchise back another 5 years.
My guess is it’s announced tomorrow, Darnold for 3 years 90 million, Darnold might be a dumbass, but he’s the best QB on the open market and it’s not really close. Take a swing on some top free agents, give Tomlin something better to work with, let him fail then get rid of him. To me it seems like they are trying to go all in. Tomlin isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, but by giving him something resembling decent talent on offense, gives them a reason to finally push him out the door at the end of his current deal.
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This is exactly why I’d welcome this. Russ taking shit for calling audibles and scoring too fast. Like wtf planet are these coaches from? I hope this happens and Rogers sings like a songbird.beerbrother wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:49 pmRodgers behind the Steeler's oline is a sure recipe for injury. That said both of last year's QBs missed time.
Not vertically challenged like Wilson. Unlike JF reads a defense and goes through multiple progressions.
Can still make the throws to all areas of the field, may even utilize a tight end.
He is much more likely to go rogue and ditch the run play than Rus or Fields.
At some point he might passive aggressively call out the coaching staff for BS. Can be a total A-Hole.
Have been against signing him but as I type this out I'm starting to think it could be quite entertaining.
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Milroe is much more of a Tomlin kind of guy. I think that would be a move that would hamstring the franchise for at least 4 years, because no matter how bad he is, it'll be just like Fields, "but he's young and raw and has so many elite tools!!!"Ice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:27 pmDart would be a nice garnish to the shit sandwich.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 amIf Russell Wilson is re-signed (he’ll be cheap as fuck) because Darnold goes elsewhere I think Dart is the pick at 22, whether he’s a reach or not.
They could conceivably trade down and possibly still land Dart but a developmental QB who can play at some point very soon is going to be a need if we re-sign Russ and Darnold signs with another team.
Dart might be another Pickett but the Steelers will be desperate for a starting caliber QB.
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And guess which number usually wears Darnold..chippedhamsandwich wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:46 amYeah I mentioned this to my Brother, looks like a fight to the death between those two….
^^This^^^bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:24 pmThey’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
Lets get a QB that throws poor deep balls now to top it off.
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Rodgers is absolutely cooked.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:20 pmRodgers had Garrett Wilson and Davante Adams plus a good running game and he was fucking awful in NYC last season.
Awful.
Sure, his offensive line was terrible but does anybody really think the Steelers offensive line with Broderick Jones likely at LT and a rookie (for all pracitical purposes) Troy Fautanu at RT will be better?
My God.
But damn I want him to be signed just purely for the drama. Give it all to me!
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Thank you.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:24 pmThey’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
Would have much rather had a guy like D Adams who is more well-rounded. Plus Adams would not have cost assets (2nd round pick)
I can’t disagree that Pickens and Metcalf are similar receivers but they are both going to be a handful for outside corners and should open things up underneath for Austin, Wilson, Freiermuth, Washington, Warren and hopefully a talented new RB who can be a much bigger threat in the passing game than Najee Harris was.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:24 pmThey’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
Again while I would have preferred more of a slick route runner to complement Pickens, Metcalf and GP are gonna be a nightmare for defensive coordinators if whoever the QB is has time to throw and Arthur Smith uses these 2 studs correctly.
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I would REALLY like to believe that NHALS is not the priority for Steelers management but it's embraced so tightly by national media that it i guess it must be.
Rodgers? 5 years older than Russ, but yeah, the drama could be fun.
Question on procedure. Steelers COULD let Pickens play out this year, then franchise tag him next??
Rodgers? 5 years older than Russ, but yeah, the drama could be fun.
Question on procedure. Steelers COULD let Pickens play out this year, then franchise tag him next??
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Has merit on paper. I can't imagine how Pickens would react to be franchised, though.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:20 pmI would REALLY like to believe that NHALS is not the priority for Steelers management but it's embraced so tightly by national media that it i guess it must be.
Rodgers? 5 years older than Russ, but yeah, the drama could be fun.
Question on procedure. Steelers COULD let Pickens play out this year, then franchise tag him next??
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Again, you are overlooking that they use 3 WR the least of all teams. The only thing they have underneath to get open is Freiermuth and the 1.47 targets per game Washington got. An actual route-runing, man-coverage beating outside WR opposite a contested catch threat would give teams a lot to deal with and get safeties out of the box. If Metcalf & Pickens are your two outside WRs, teams can basically play sideline coverage the way they do in 2min drill.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:19 pmI can’t disagree that Pickens and Metcalf are similar receivers but they are both going to be a handful for outside corners and should open things up underneath for Austin, Wilson, Freiermuth, Washington, Warren and hopefully a talented new RB who can be a much bigger threat in the passing game than Najee Harris was.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:24 pmThey’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
Again while I would have preferred more of a slick route runner to complement Pickens, Metcalf and GP are gonna be a nightmare for defensive coordinators if whoever the QB is has time to throw and Arthur Smith uses these 2 studs correctly.
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Their wide receiver room last year might have been the worst in the NFL and while I’m no Arthur Smith fan, he only had 1 stud (Pickens) who clearly was getting frustrated being the only Pro Bowl level wideout on the team and Pickens got all the attention from defensive coordinators. Calvin Austin is a damn good player but he was a third WR masquerading as a #2. The Steelers now have 2 stud, Pro Bowl level wideouts. 2 seriously dangerous motherfuckers and teams will have to pick their poison.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 pmAgain, you are overlooking that they use 3 WR the least of all teams. The only thing they have underneath to get open is Freiermuth and the 1.47 targets per game Washington got. An actual route-runing, man-coverage beating outside WR opposite a contested catch threat would give teams a lot to deal with and get safeties out of the box. If Metcalf & Pickens are your two outside WRs, teams can basically play sideline coverage the way they do in 2min drill.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:19 pmI can’t disagree that Pickens and Metcalf are similar receivers but they are both going to be a handful for outside corners and should open things up underneath for Austin, Wilson, Freiermuth, Washington, Warren and hopefully a talented new RB who can be a much bigger threat in the passing game than Najee Harris was.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:24 pm
They’re redundant. They provide the same kind of benefits but do not complement one another.
Again while I would have preferred more of a slick route runner to complement Pickens, Metcalf and GP are gonna be a nightmare for defensive coordinators if whoever the QB is has time to throw and Arthur Smith uses these 2 studs correctly.
Last year you’re correct that Freiermuth (well along with Warren) was the only other legitimate threat underneath but I’m not convinced Austin won’t play in Arthur Smith’s offense and I’m also not convinced the Roman Wilson book is closed. Far from it. Also again, let’s see what back we add in the draft (I think we get that back in the 3rd round) and hopefully the guy can be dangerous in the passing game.
They had to add a big time WR to help Pickens and while DK isn’t the perfect complement, both of these fuckers can wreck defenses in their own way.
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They screwed the pooch again by giving up a 2nd round pick. That’s was the sweet spot to draft a running back.
Now it’s either another 1st round running back which you should never pick in the first round.( See N. Harris)
Or they wait until the 3rd and all the good ones are gone.
Unless they resign Harris and with the morons in charge that wouldn’t surprise me.
Now it’s either another 1st round running back which you should never pick in the first round.( See N. Harris)
Or they wait until the 3rd and all the good ones are gone.
Unless they resign Harris and with the morons in charge that wouldn’t surprise me.
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Keep Russ and ditch Arthur smith. Wont happen thoK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:19 pmTheir wide receiver room last year might have been the worst in the NFL and while I’m no Arthur Smith fan, he only had 1 stud (Pickens) who clearly was getting frustrated being the only Pro Bowl level wideout on the team and Pickens got all the attention from defensive coordinators. Calvin Austin is a damn good player but he was a third WR masquerading as a #2. The Steelers now have 2 stud, Pro Bowl level wideouts. 2 seriously dangerous motherfuckers and teams will have to pick their poison.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 pmAgain, you are overlooking that they use 3 WR the least of all teams. The only thing they have underneath to get open is Freiermuth and the 1.47 targets per game Washington got. An actual route-runing, man-coverage beating outside WR opposite a contested catch threat would give teams a lot to deal with and get safeties out of the box. If Metcalf & Pickens are your two outside WRs, teams can basically play sideline coverage the way they do in 2min drill.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:19 pm
I can’t disagree that Pickens and Metcalf are similar receivers but they are both going to be a handful for outside corners and should open things up underneath for Austin, Wilson, Freiermuth, Washington, Warren and hopefully a talented new RB who can be a much bigger threat in the passing game than Najee Harris was.
Again while I would have preferred more of a slick route runner to complement Pickens, Metcalf and GP are gonna be a nightmare for defensive coordinators if whoever the QB is has time to throw and Arthur Smith uses these 2 studs correctly.
Last year you’re correct that Freiermuth (well along with Warren) was the only other legitimate threat underneath but I’m not convinced Austin won’t play in Arthur Smith’s offense and I’m also not convinced the Roman Wilson book is closed. Far from it. Also again, let’s see what back we add in the draft (I think we get that back in the 3rd round) and hopefully the guy can be dangerous in the passing game.
They had to add a big time WR to help Pickens and while DK isn’t the perfect complement, both of these fuckers can wreck defenses in their own way.
Want to also know why Pickens was frustrated? Bc he's not allowed to run the full route tree and defenses knew this.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:19 pmTheir wide receiver room last year might have been the worst in the NFL and while I’m no Arthur Smith fan, he only had 1 stud (Pickens) who clearly was getting frustrated being the only Pro Bowl level wideout on the team and Pickens got all the attention from defensive coordinators. Calvin Austin is a damn good player but he was a third WR masquerading as a #2. The Steelers now have 2 stud, Pro Bowl level wideouts. 2 seriously dangerous motherfuckers and teams will have to pick their poison.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 pmAgain, you are overlooking that they use 3 WR the least of all teams. The only thing they have underneath to get open is Freiermuth and the 1.47 targets per game Washington got. An actual route-runing, man-coverage beating outside WR opposite a contested catch threat would give teams a lot to deal with and get safeties out of the box. If Metcalf & Pickens are your two outside WRs, teams can basically play sideline coverage the way they do in 2min drill.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:19 pm
I can’t disagree that Pickens and Metcalf are similar receivers but they are both going to be a handful for outside corners and should open things up underneath for Austin, Wilson, Freiermuth, Washington, Warren and hopefully a talented new RB who can be a much bigger threat in the passing game than Najee Harris was.
Again while I would have preferred more of a slick route runner to complement Pickens, Metcalf and GP are gonna be a nightmare for defensive coordinators if whoever the QB is has time to throw and Arthur Smith uses these 2 studs correctly.
Last year you’re correct that Freiermuth (well along with Warren) was the only other legitimate threat underneath but I’m not convinced Austin won’t play in Arthur Smith’s offense and I’m also not convinced the Roman Wilson book is closed. Far from it. Also again, let’s see what back we add in the draft (I think we get that back in the 3rd round) and hopefully the guy can be dangerous in the passing game.
They had to add a big time WR to help Pickens and while DK isn’t the perfect complement, both of these fuckers can wreck defenses in their own way.
Go routes, fades, maybe a 20 yard out pattern. An occasional post.
That's all GP was allowed to run.
This Neanderthal offensive approach makes me want to bleach my eyes. Imagine being asked to be productive in it.
Just a guess but I think Pickens will get his wish and will definitely be running the full route tree now. DK is a deep ball straight line monster who will take the top off every defense.Deebo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:44 pmWant to also know why Pickens was frustrated? Bc he's not allowed to run the full route tree and defenses knew this.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:19 pmTheir wide receiver room last year might have been the worst in the NFL and while I’m no Arthur Smith fan, he only had 1 stud (Pickens) who clearly was getting frustrated being the only Pro Bowl level wideout on the team and Pickens got all the attention from defensive coordinators. Calvin Austin is a damn good player but he was a third WR masquerading as a #2. The Steelers now have 2 stud, Pro Bowl level wideouts. 2 seriously dangerous motherfuckers and teams will have to pick their poison.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 pm
Again, you are overlooking that they use 3 WR the least of all teams. The only thing they have underneath to get open is Freiermuth and the 1.47 targets per game Washington got. An actual route-runing, man-coverage beating outside WR opposite a contested catch threat would give teams a lot to deal with and get safeties out of the box. If Metcalf & Pickens are your two outside WRs, teams can basically play sideline coverage the way they do in 2min drill.
Last year you’re correct that Freiermuth (well along with Warren) was the only other legitimate threat underneath but I’m not convinced Austin won’t play in Arthur Smith’s offense and I’m also not convinced the Roman Wilson book is closed. Far from it. Also again, let’s see what back we add in the draft (I think we get that back in the 3rd round) and hopefully the guy can be dangerous in the passing game.
They had to add a big time WR to help Pickens and while DK isn’t the perfect complement, both of these fuckers can wreck defenses in their own way.
Go routes, fades, maybe a 20 yard out pattern. An occasional post.
That's all GP was allowed to run.
This Neanderthal offensive approach makes me want to bleach my eyes. Imagine being asked to be productive in it.
Pickens will have a very different role in our offense with Metcalf on the field. Gonna be interesting to see how Pickens handles it.
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There's a zero percent chance that all the good RBs are gone by Round 3. In fact, I'll bet you could get an upgrade at starting RB in round 5. I count 27 I wouldn't complain about, and there's at least 20 I'd be jacked about.cop1211 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:00 pmThey screwed the pooch again by giving up a 2nd round pick. That’s was the sweet spot to draft a running back.
Now it’s either another 1st round running back which you should never pick in the first round.( See N. Harris)
Or they wait until the 3rd and all the good ones are gone.
Unless they resign Harris and with the morons in charge that wouldn’t surprise me.
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