Your new Steelers QB ....

[CzechSteeler]

The upside to all of this, aside from sheer entertainment value of watching a live train wreck, is this:
The move for Rodgers. Trading for DK Metcalf. Apparently trying to trade for another starting capable receiver...
This feels like Tomlin is going all in, in a last chance before he's done effort.
So... maybe, just maybe, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Fingers and toes all double crossed.

Yeah. Allar 2028. With a lot of luck.

[bradshaw2ben]

I don't mind acquiring talent at a reasonable cost.
What I do mind is the tail wagging the dog when it comes to this sort of shit.

It's Florio so take it with a grain of salt...

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... len-lazard

Man, people are going to meltdown if all those picks they had PIT packaging to move up for a QB next year instead goes to trade for a WR for Rodgers....

^^^^^^^^ THIS

[Steeldrama]

Y’all’s premise to trade up for a qb is correct

However

I know that you all know that Tomlin can’t be charged with picking let alone developing said qb

NHALS and passing Noll takes precedence

Lucky for those of you who want this whole Rodgers thing to fail have nothing to worry about

Khan will dumpster dive

And

Rodgers is going to get killed behind that OL

[Steelcody7]

The upside to all of this, aside from sheer entertainment value of watching a live train wreck, is this:
The move for Rodgers. Trading for DK Metcalf. Apparently trying to trade for another starting capable receiver...
This feels like Tomlin is going all in, in a last chance before he's done effort.
So... maybe, just maybe, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Fingers and toes all double crossed.

Yeah. Allar 2028. With a lot of luck.

There are at least three quarterbacks I would rather the Steelers draft than that dude.

Will Howard is a better QB already on the roster.

[Who Dee Knee]

Not sure how much better a 42-year old Rodgers is than a prime Mason Rudolph. Rodgers’ numbers last year were very similar to what I would expect from Mason over a full year.

But we were thin, and now we’re a little deeper, at the position.

I just got a chuckle out of the idea of "prime" Bibberty. "As good as it's gonna get" Bibbs is probably more accurate.

Agreed, Ice. I knew it when I wrote it.

[anpsteel]

Okay- in thinking about this-

That Rodgers' deal is just under $20M for one season, it makes me believe a couple things

1. Rodgers was the one that wanted a 1 year deal. I say this because it is fairly irrational that a team would want to sign a starting QB to a one year deal. Particularly, when you don't have another legit starting QB on the roster.

2. Rodgers coming in at waaaaaaaay below market value, when the team still has cap room, tells me he's doing this with the understanding that the team is going to use that cap room to sign other players. That would include players to improve the offense. OLine, TE, WR. etc.

Both of these factors strengthen my belief this is Tomlin pushing his chips all in.

IF they win a playoff game or two, could they convince Rodgers to come back for another year? Im sure Rodgers is on the fence about the continuation of his career. He likely doesn't need the money, but still wants to play... but, one would assume, only if its for the chance to win.

Anywho- the train is loading up. It should be an interesting season, no matter how it plays out.

[Gonzo]

Fillipponi was on NFL radio yesterday - said he hated this rodgers deal and predicted disaster.

he have three reasons -rodgers seriously declining play, his propensity for causing issues when things go wrong and the steelers apparent blindness to their problems on D and with O scheme.

He claimed it was Tomlin driving it for exactly the reasons stated in a post above. said tomlin 100% believes all he needs is a QB to execute his O to win playoff games. believes nothing is wrong at all except QB play.

fillipponi also claimed it’s tomlin who sold rooney on this claiming he can control rodgers if things get shaky. he alluded to that this was all about NHALs and desperation to get a playoff win - tomlin will not accept trying to let howard or even rudolph develop for a year.

it may be the case that idf this goes south tomlin will “retire”. i think he has zero interest in coaching and developing a new team

[anpsteel]

Fillipponi was on NFL radio yesterday - said he hated this rodgers deal and predicted disaster.

he have three reasons -rodgers seriously declining play, his propensity for causing issues when things go wrong and the steelers apparent blindness to their problems on D and with O scheme.

He claimed it was Tomlin driving it for exactly the reasons stated in a post above. said tomlin 100% believes all he needs is a QB to execute his O to win playoff games. believes nothing is wrong at all except QB play.

fillipponi also claimed it’s tomlin who sold rooney on this claiming he can control rodgers if things get shaky. he alluded to that this was all about NHALs and desperation to get a playoff win - tomlin will not accept trying to let howard or even rudolph develop for a year.

it may be the case that idf this goes south tomlin will “retire”. i think he has zero interest in coaching and developing a new team

As I've stated in multiple other posts, I believe there is a high likelihood of this being a total train wreck... BUT.. there is that very slim chance, that it actually works out.

That Aaron Rodgers can - or more accurately - is willing to make the effort, to still play at a high level. AND that Rodgers being able and willing to play, allows Arthur Smith the ability to implement a real nfl offense. One without restrictions and limitations such as half field, single read, passing designs.

Combined with the addition of a true outside zone runner, a legit #1 receiver, and ... the probable addition of either a field stretching TE or legit #2 WR. This makes the offense, potentially, fairly dynamic.

Those aspects cant overcome Tomlin's stupidity, but they can go a long way.

The big "challenge" aside from Rodgers making the effort, is Tomlin breaking his terrible habits. Those two components are the crux of the team's success or failure.

Will Rodgers TRY and will Tomlin stop playing, not to lose.

[Gonzo]

I believe there is a higher likelihood of Rodger’s trying than Tomlin changing
Rodgers is tomlins reason not to change
I do think it’s possible,Tomlin has been given a mild ultimatum to win playoff games are choose to leave
And he has been given leeway to do it or now or accept the consequences
If they sink and draft a young franchise qb Tomlin will leave

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Will Howard may be better than any 26 QB other than Manning and possibly Nussmeyer. Beyond that I see a lot of Jaxson Darts and projects.

[steelmann58]

Will Arthur Smith be a OC just in name

[anpsteel]

Rodgers is going to get killed behind that OL

I don’t think this will be nearly the problem you think

Rodgers can and will burn a defense for blitzing

The opponents aren’t going to walk down 9 guys in the box with him on he field.

The run game will be better, the oline pass blocking will be better

He’s a much better player than anyone on the roster last season, even at his age

Are we going to see games where he’s mailing it in? Almost certainly

Are we going to see him getting frustrated with the play calling? Absofukinlutely

Hitting the hot read is not one of the issues

[Ice]

I don't mind acquiring talent at a reasonable cost.
What I do mind is the tail wagging the dog when it comes to this sort of shit.

It's Florio so take it with a grain of salt...

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... len-lazard

Man, people are going to meltdown if all those picks they had PIT packaging to move up for a QB next year instead goes to trade for a WR for Rodgers....

Most Tomlin thing ever to do it, though.

[anpsteel]

I don't mind acquiring talent at a reasonable cost.
What I do mind is the tail wagging the dog when it comes to this sort of shit.

It's Florio so take it with a grain of salt...

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... len-lazard

Man, people are going to meltdown if all those picks they had PIT packaging to move up for a QB next year instead goes to trade for a WR for Rodgers....

Most Tomlin thing ever to do it, though.

The team not drafting a receiver in the first two rounds, he past two drafts is another stick to put on the Tomlin last hurrah fire. Tomlin is notorious for bringing receivers along slowly.

[PennyBacker]

This signing is perfect. Gives the fans who want to Believe, something to be excited about, and the folks who feel the need to complain, something to gripe over.

This is also possibly the greatest example of an athlete saying it is not about the money and actually not making it about money. This signing looks to be about the love of the game. AR would not risk his legacy if he could not still execute at a high enough level to perform up to his standard. Football in Pittsburgh is more exciting now that this deal is complete.

[steelmann58]

The Steelers need to do the following get a legit Wr can’t have a 2024 repeat. The other if they can add a Te at a cheap cost I be ok with it. But the other big move which I believe is needed is a veteran swing tackle who can step in for either Jones or Troy.

[Steel Ubaldo]

The upside to all of this, aside from sheer entertainment value of watching a live train wreck, is this:
The move for Rodgers. Trading for DK Metcalf. Apparently trying to trade for another starting capable receiver...
This feels like Tomlin is going all in, in a last chance before he's done effort.
So... maybe, just maybe, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Fingers and toes all double crossed.

Yeah. Allar 2028. With a lot of luck.

There are at least three quarterbacks I would rather the Steelers draft than that dude.

Will Howard is a better QB already on the roster.

Allar has the anti clutch gene. DO NOT DRAFT

[cop1211]

Hoping for 1-16!!!

[Ice]

Will Howard may be better than any 26 QB other than Manning and possibly Nussmeyer. Beyond that I see a lot of Jaxson Darts and projects.

I like Will a lot, and probably more than most on the board, as a Buckeye National Champ without whom that run wouldn't have been possible, but there are, as of now, (unless we see some serious self-destruction and nobody gets better) some pretty good R1-type QB prospects in the 2026 crop, in a variety of flavors.

[Steelafan77]

Agreed. Howard is no slouch.

CAREER HONORS
• 2023 All-Big 12 Second Team (Coaches)
• 2023 Honorable Mention Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year
• 2023 Manning Award Star of the Week (UCF)
• 2023 Reese’s Senior Bowl Offensive Player of the Week (TCU)
• 2023 Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 List (Troy)
• 2023 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award Top 25
• 2023 Maxwell Award watch list
• 2023 Davey O’Brien Award watch list
• 2022-23 Wuerffel Trophy watch list
• 2023 Reese’s Senior Bowl watch list
• 2022 Manning Award Star of the Week (Oklahoma State)
• 2022 Big 12 Offensive Player of the Week (Oklahoma State)
• 2021-23 First Team Academic All-Big 12
• 2020 Big 12 Newcomer of the Week (TCU)

Honors & Awards
2024: CFP National Championship game offensive MVP, CFP semifinals at the Cotton Bowl offensive MVP, Third-team all-Big Ten Conference, Cotton Bowl/Dan S. Petty Scholar-Athlete, Two-time CSC Academic All-District, Second-team All-Big 12 (coaches), Academic All-Big 12, Graduated in December with his degree in accounting
2023: (at Kansas State) Second-team All-Big 12 (coaches), Academic All-Big 12, Graduated in December with his degree in accounting
2022: Academic All-Big 12
2021: Academic All-Big 12

[Gonzo]

Agreed. Howard is no slouch.

CAREER HONORS
• 2023 All-Big 12 Second Team (Coaches)
• 2023 Honorable Mention Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year
• 2023 Manning Award Star of the Week (UCF)
• 2023 Reese’s Senior Bowl Offensive Player of the Week (TCU)
• 2023 Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 List (Troy)
• 2023 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award Top 25
• 2023 Maxwell Award watch list
• 2023 Davey O’Brien Award watch list
• 2022-23 Wuerffel Trophy watch list
• 2023 Reese’s Senior Bowl watch list
• 2022 Manning Award Star of the Week (Oklahoma State)
• 2022 Big 12 Offensive Player of the Week (Oklahoma State)
• 2021-23 First Team Academic All-Big 12
• 2020 Big 12 Newcomer of the Week (TCU)

Honors & Awards
2024: CFP National Championship game offensive MVP, CFP semifinals at the Cotton Bowl offensive MVP, Third-team all-Big Ten Conference, Cotton Bowl/Dan S. Petty Scholar-Athlete, Two-time CSC Academic All-District, Second-team All-Big 12 (coaches), Academic All-Big 12, Graduated in December with his degree in accounting
2023: (at Kansas State) Second-team All-Big 12 (coaches), Academic All-Big 12, Graduated in December with his degree in accounting
2022: Academic All-Big 12
2021: Academic All-Big 12

‘Don’t sell yourself short (Judge), your a tremendous slouch”

[CoolShades]

it may be the case that idf this goes south tomlin will “retire”. i think he has zero interest in coaching and developing a new team

Tomlin will never go to another team to coach. It will prove to the world that he is and always has been a fraud.

I can’t see anyone hiring him to walk in on a SB caliber team with a young franchise QB and a great coaching staff in place. No, he’d get a chance to coach a dumpster fire like the Bears, and mediocre Mike will pass on that and take a network job.

Jibbs wants that gold jacket as much as Corporate Cam the Company Man, and will do everything he can to get it. NHALS is the key, and he will do anything and everything to maintain that. Once that bubble pops, the team will spiral and he will “retire”.

The fraud needs to go. If Rooney is keeping him around to beat Noll’s record, shame on him. This bastard’s name should never be mentioned in the same breath as Noll’s. It amazes me that they pushed Noll out, but cling to Tomlin. Mediocre Mike HAS to have video of a naked Deuce with a farm animal.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Based on the logic of pushing Noll out on the basis of '85-'91 Tomlin should have been gone by 2017. And that's assuming as much good will for one SB win as four.

[CoolShades]

Based on the logic of pushing Noll out on the basis of '85-'91 Tomlin should have been gone by 2017. And that's assuming as much good will for one SB win as four.

Especially when you consider that Noll turned a 40 year pile of garbage into a champion, and Tomlin turned a champion into a pile of garbage.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Based on the logic of pushing Noll out on the basis of '85-'91 Tomlin should have been gone by 2017. And that's assuming as much good will for one SB win as four.

Especially when you consider that Noll turned a 40 year pile of garbage into a champion, and Tomlin turned a champion into a pile of garbage.

Tomlin should of been fired after the Tebow playoff loss.

[Gonzo]

Who knew … looking back
The GB Super Bowl … that the ‘easing in” comment wasn’t just off the cuff
It was a philosophy an omen and the beginning of the end

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Did Rodgers postpone his signing so he could elope?

[.Kodiak]

Did Rodgers postpone his signing so he could elope?

Wasn't an audible to a QB sneak

[Dan Smith--BYU]

apparently he married in secret and we dont even know who the woman is

"ayahuasca honeymoon" is a great song title