Schefter: Steelers trade Minkah to the Dolphins for Jalen Ramsey, also deal for Jonnu Smith

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Re: Schefter: Steelers trade Minkah to the Dolphins for Jalen Ramsey, also deal for Jonnu Smith

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:41 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:53 am
Bottom line, Henry in December will go right up the gut and the safeties will be riding him to try and bring him down.
Win win.

If they stuff them or at the the least stop them to 100 yds it’s a win and they added enough to that front 7.

If they get ran on to the tune of 299yds, Fraudlin gets embarrassed which will push him out the door.

Win win.
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.



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Post by .Kodiak » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.
Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:20 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.
Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
I like to look on the bright side of the draft. I agree with your sentiments, but I like to think the majority of the players coming out of the draft have earned their draft position and are nearly all equal on draft day, give or take a few draft positions. There is probably 15 to 20% that are garbage, but the remainder just run into obstacles in the organizations, scheme, coaching or QB.

So we keep drafting and we will get the 20% every once in a while, but I like to think we have still been drafting potential, but it has just not been catalyzed by the dopes on the coaching staff. Bring a new guy in and it will be a different return on drafted capital in one season and the next draft.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:26 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:01 pm
955876 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:53 pm
If they get ran on to the tune of 299yds, Fraudlin gets embarrassed which will push him out the door.
Nope. He will just blame the defensive breakdown on Austin and will fire him.

Dipshit Art II will buy that bullshit since his just so tickled pink to have Jibba Jabber as his HC.
MAYBE you can give Arthur Smith a pass at it was his first season here as OC.

But I don't know how anyone could defend Myer still being employed. The argument for Austin is that he's just a figurehead - Tomlin owns that defense and micro-manages it.
Agreed. Meyer is awful. Might as well have Oscar Meyer coaching the oline.

Jibbs loves surrounding himself with mediocre yes men.

Cowher was at least smart enough to have quality staffs.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 81 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by anpsteel » Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:02 am

.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.
Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
There is a small part of me that thinks this is Tomlins last year. Or maybe next season


Art will pay out one trailing year and that would make sense with all the one year players and loading up with draft picks for next year

Tomlin has said he has no desire to rebuild with a rookie qb (or something to that effect ) and baring Rodgers coming back and all the various veterans re upping for one more season, 2026 is going to be a huge rebuild of the roster

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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:53 am

I hope the trade Tomlin at some point and release all his mediocre coaching staff. I totally agree what one of the bigger differences between Cowher and Tomlin

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:21 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:02 am
.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.
Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
There is a small part of me that thinks this is Tomlins last year. Or maybe next season


Art will pay out one trailing year and that would make sense with all the one year players and loading up with draft picks for next year

Tomlin has said he has no desire to rebuild with a rookie qb (or something to that effect ) and baring Rodgers coming back and all the various veterans re upping for one more season, 2026 is going to be a huge rebuild of the roster
I just can't believe these guys don't know the history of the NFL well enough to realize where they are right now. All you have to do is go back to Brett Favre's last 3 years....we are the Jets or Vikings right now.

Nothing but mediocrity will happen this year. There will even probably be some embarrassing gaffes that come out about Rodgers this season. If you happen to watch the Favre special on Netflix, it honestly feels like Favre Part II with Rodgers; except no Ben getting drafted as Favre was destroying his legacy in the early aughts.

Tomlin will be gone shortly...this has to be his last hurrah with these moves, which are nothing more than marketing stunts. Holmgren, McCarthy, Carroll and Belichick were all forced out about this timeframe. And then the Jets participated in the Favre Part II twice...that has to be even more embarrassing!

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:41 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:02 am
.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:05 pm
You are correct...it happened with Cowher when he took the torch from Noll, and it happened when Tomlin took the torch from Cowher. Fresh message, new ideas, different voice, and the next head coach will hopefully know what to do! In this instance, I think a staff will need to be brought in too on one side of the ball.
Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
There is a small part of me that thinks this is Tomlins last year. Or maybe next season


Art will pay out one trailing year and that would make sense with all the one year players and loading up with draft picks for next year

Tomlin has said he has no desire to rebuild with a rookie qb (or something to that effect ) and baring Rodgers coming back and all the various veterans re upping for one more season, 2026 is going to be a huge rebuild of the roster
I absolutely believe this is Fraudlins last year. Thought it would take another meltdown. Now I think it’s pushing his chips in to hopefully go out on a high note.

Here’s to hoping!

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Post by CoolShades » Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:58 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:41 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:02 am
.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm


Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
There is a small part of me that thinks this is Tomlins last year. Or maybe next season


Art will pay out one trailing year and that would make sense with all the one year players and loading up with draft picks for next year

Tomlin has said he has no desire to rebuild with a rookie qb (or something to that effect ) and baring Rodgers coming back and all the various veterans re upping for one more season, 2026 is going to be a huge rebuild of the roster
I absolutely believe this is Fraudlins last year. Thought it would take another meltdown. Now I think it’s pushing his chips in to hopefully go out on a high note.

Here’s to hoping!
I hope you are right. But if it IS Mediocre Mike’s last year, I hope they have their new HC in mind, and bring him in ASAP. He needs to be a part of drafting the next QB. I don’t want Tomlin or his pathetic coaching staff anywhere near that draft pick.
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Post by anpsteel » Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:55 am

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:41 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:02 am
.Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:12 pm


Tomlin inherited a SB staff and roster, led by a future HOF QB entering his prime.

Tomlin will leave the next guy a dumpster fire. In a few years, Cam will likely be retired and Watt will be on his last legs. I don't know that there's a single player on the roster now - even Boz will be a few years older - that can be a core player to build around.

You consider the roster and staff the next HC is going to inherit, and it's starting to look like the first year of an expansion team.
There is a small part of me that thinks this is Tomlins last year. Or maybe next season


Art will pay out one trailing year and that would make sense with all the one year players and loading up with draft picks for next year

Tomlin has said he has no desire to rebuild with a rookie qb (or something to that effect ) and baring Rodgers coming back and all the various veterans re upping for one more season, 2026 is going to be a huge rebuild of the roster
I absolutely believe this is Fraudlins last year. Thought it would take another meltdown. Now I think it’s pushing his chips in to hopefully go out on a high note.

Here’s to hoping!
I’m full fingers and toes crossed

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