2023 SF Board Mock Draft - comments

[DP39]

Charles slaying it for Lions as per usual

JSN’s 347 yd record setting performance in Rose Bowl against the UTES tatoo’d on my tiny brain

I agree. Great pick by Charles Demarr.

At WR, I was torn between QJ and JSN. With the way ATL uses guys like Pitts and Patterson, JSN was more of a luxury than the real need of having another beast on the opposite side of Drake London. Thus, my QJ pick.

In all honesty, QJ sorta gives me that faint feeling of a potential real WR diva. He could be just about himself and the money in a few years. Don't really know, but I hope not.

[bradshaw2ben]

If he was the highest rated player on your board, then he was the highest rated player on your board. No need to count past that. If you were trying to optimize positionally to set up your next two picks, i frown at you sir

But yeah, premium position + all american + some well above average nfl tools + still pretty young seems pretty justifiable at #17 overall.

No, I wasn't gopiong outside my board. My board priorities for like at least 15 years now:

1. transcendent talents as BPA
2. best by a large margin at their position, which happens to be a position of need
3. great talent & fit at a position which is a need and which isn't deep in this class
4. position need/fit
5. outlier athlete or talent at depth position

BUT. I might think John Stallworth is the best prospect in the draft and I also might think it's okay to wait to pick him until Round 4 if I have other HOFers on the board to pick and I'm all but certain I can get him later.

Truthfully, I don't have guys ranked 1-100... more like tiers. For my most recent pick, I chose between 4 guys all in the same tier.

[bradshaw2ben]

Dotson and Bush... if it was possible to re-draft Derwin Gray, it'd be coming.

ding ding ding

[Pabst]

Moore would be a fine swing tackle backup

Can some one help me remember: didn’t Chuks play some LT early in his career? I may be wrong about that, although the team has talked so many times about how they view him as a better LT.

It goes back to the 2020 season. Chuks was the swing tackle entering the year due to his ability to play LT & RT. Banner went down in Week 1, and Chuks became the starting RT.

[bradshaw2ben]

I remember 2020 but I was thinking he actually played NFL snaps at LT, maybe filling in for AV?

[fractalsteel]

Moore would be a fine swing tackle backup

Can some one help me remember: didn’t Chuks play some LT early in his career? I may be wrong about that, although the team has talked so many times about how they view him as a better LT.

It goes back to the 2020 season. Chuks was the swing tackle entering the year due to his ability to play LT & RT. Banner went down in Week 1, and Chuks became the starting RT.

Chuks played both LT and RT in his rookie preseason. He got more action at LT then and looked the part. I thought we finally had a LT. That rookie year he dressed almost all the games and was the extra OL when they went with 6.
Off his rookie campaign it looked like he was going to be a starter.

His second year was another story. He looked terrible in preseason and didn't see a whole lot of action.

I still think he is going to be the Steelers LT unless they find one.
Funny, if the staff was as down on Moore as this site(consensus) why didn't the Steelers switch Chuks and Moore some time during the season?

[Steelperch]

I remember 2020 but I was thinking he actually played NFL snaps at LT, maybe filling in for AV?

Remember that Chuks ended up at RT because Moore absolutely could not play the right side so they thought the best lineup was Chuks at RT and Moore at LT but the original plan was Chuks at LT

[bradshaw2ben]

@fractalsteel Dan Moore is available in trade. Just in case.

[Steelperch]

Seattle’s 1.20 pick is still up for trade, but not for long. Get an offer in now!

[Pabst]

I remember 2020 but I was thinking he actually played NFL snaps at LT, maybe filling in for AV?

Can't confirm it, but I have 0 doubt that Chuks played LT in preseason at some point.

Going back to look, holy shit AV didn't miss a single offensive snap between 2018-2020

[Jizz Mop]

I’m curious to see when Darnell Washington comes off the board….will he be first TE taken?

Later this round, early 2nd we should start hearing his name.

[Korey39]

I'm in class rn so I can't watch this but this is something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1GFk6aIBwc

[SteelerDayTrader]

I would’ve tried to jump up for Washington at 1 if Richardson wasn’t in this draft

If he goes to the right team/situation he will dominate the league

As it stands he and Jelani Woods in a 2 TE offense for the Colts are pretty much set to explode

What team in the NFL right now has the juice to cover those 2 ion the passing game while at the same time getting big enough to not get bulldozered in the run game ??

Take as long as you want trying to come up with an answer

[bradshaw2ben]

I'm in class rn so I can't watch this but this is something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1GFk6aIBwc

There's no film in this youtube breakdown but it is interesting.

[ugandasjoy01]

Special thank you and welcome to our guests for this year's mock:

San Francisco is GMed by Jolene (@ugandasjoy01 ) and Denver by Gabe--I think-- (@BlueridgeBronc1 ). Both of these fine contributors are diehard Denver Broncos fans who Korey & I have done various Twitter mock drafts with, so you know they're vetted! Please welcome them aboard and try to explain the inside jokes.

Thanks for the welcome! Can't wait for the third round to start!

[Jizz Mop]

I would’ve tried to jump up for Washington at 1 if Richardson wasn’t in this draft

If he goes to the right team/situation he will dominate the league

As it stands he and Jelani Woods in a 2 TE offense for the Colts are pretty much set to explode

What team in the NFL right now has the juice to cover those 2 ion the passing game while at the same time getting big enough to not get bulldozered in the run game ??

Take as long as you want trying to come up with an answer

Derwin Gray is my answer

You are a genius

[bradshaw2ben]

Special thank you and welcome to our guests for this year's mock:

San Francisco is GMed by Jolene (@ugandasjoy01 ) and Denver by Gabe--I think-- (@BlueridgeBronc1 ). Both of these fine contributors are diehard Denver Broncos fans who Korey & I have done various Twitter mock drafts with, so you know they're vetted! Please welcome them aboard and try to explain the inside jokes.

Thanks for the welcome! Can't wait for the third round to start!

No one here was patient enough to endure three rounds of not picking just to get all those late picks! Glad you're onboard.

[Ice]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

[bradshaw2ben]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Give it time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

[Jobu]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

[Ice]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

I think he's just going for early practice for the draft-a-team in a week or so. Just because I enjoy poking fun at the ridiculousness doesn't mean I don't enjoy the ridiculousness, though. Quite the contrary.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

Your wrong

It almost always is right within a round or so for 95% of the players and the few that are far off some inside information comes out later that no one here knew about

[Jobu]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

I think he's just going for early practice for the draft-a-team in a week or so.

Is that the one where he asks for candidates at each draft slot, then ignores every one of them and drafts his guys?

[Pabst]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

Another thing that's always fun(ny) about the board draft is the tendency to overvalue/undervalue players based on how they fit with the Steelers.

[Ice]

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

I think he's just going for early practice for the draft-a-team in a week or so.

Is that the one where he asks for candidates at each draft slot, then ignores every one of them and drafts his guys?

I forgot about that one. Truly an annual candidate for thread of the year. The Derwin Gray of threads, if you will.

[bradshaw2ben]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

IDK, there are at least two franchises I can think of off the top of my head who are more ridiculous than what we see here.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Oh noooooes !!! Board dullards Ice Jizz and Jobu don’t like my picks !!!!

Whatevers will I do ?????!!!???

Lolololz

[bradshaw2ben]

Well, at this point, "exploding" and "dominating the league" is tied to Gardner Minshew's passing prowess and an Oline that pretty much no longer exists from a talent standpoint, so I'll stay in the wait and see camp.

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

Another thing that's always fun(ny) about the board draft is the tendency to overvalue/undervalue players based on how they fit with the Steelers.

Welcome to my world.

[bradshaw2ben]

Ehh…the nice thing about this exercise is you can be as ridiculous as you want, trade pro bowlers and legit players for a bunch of mid round picks, draft an entire team of journeymen backups, special teamers, and XFLers, then claim what a wonderful talent evaluator you are, because no one is going to ever actually see the team you’ve built on a football field.
I’ve always enjoyed doing the SF mock draft, because it’s fun, enlightening, and can be educational, but…it’s not realistic.

I think he's just going for early practice for the draft-a-team in a week or so.

Is that the one where he asks for candidates at each draft slot, then ignores every one of them and drafts his guys?

No, that's not the Draft-A-Team. That was the "Crowdsourced mock" or STD's version of it last year, to be precise.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Every year in the real draft there are numerous trades no one saw coming

Sometimes they seem slanted one way and work out that way later

Sometimes they work out the opposite of conventional wisdom

Happens almost every year sometimes many times


I think bad teams need to take big swings. Sometimes that means unloading players for picks and starting over. Many of the players in a draft don’t make it because they end up on a bad team that is clueless how to develop them, not because they aren’t super talented

Bad teams have to make tough decisions. Hang on to the very few good players they have and likely waste their careers or unload them at the right time and try to get enough help to overcome their loss and hopefully get better

Those good players weren’t enough to get a bad team in contention

That alone is enough reason to cut ties with them