SF Board Draft 2025 Comments & Rules

[bradshaw2ben]

@jebrick is up and I can’t text him because hes not an IPhone user and I’m in the air. So it might be a minute

[jebrick]

Pats draft is done

1.4 Will Campbell, OL, LSU
2.38 Tre Harris, WR, Mississippi
3.69 Zy Alexander, CB, LSU
3.77 Ashton Gillotte, EDGE, Louisville
4.106 Bhayshul Tuten , RB, Virginia Tech
5.144 David Walker, EDGE, Central Arkansas
5.156(Pitt) Will Howard, QB, Ohio State
7.217 Sebastian Castro, DB, Iowa
7.220 Ty Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
7.238 CJ Dippre TE Alabama

I think they really try to move down in the 1st. Their needs were LT, WR and CB with EDGE, RB and 3 tech being further back. No decent 3 techs by the time I did some serious looking so ...

[tbsteel]

Finished for the Ravens. Didn't really know who I was picking most of the time, but I really tried to attack what needs they have.

1 27 - BAL - tbsteel - Jahdae Barron, CB/S, Texas
2 59 - BAL - tbsteel - Bradyn Swinson, EDGE, LSU
3 91 - BAL - tbsteel - Tate Ratledge, G, Georgia
4 129 - BAL - tbsteel - Quandarrius Robinson, EDGE, Alabama
4* 136 - BAL - tbsteel - C.J. West, DL, Indiana
5* 176 - BAL - tbsteel - Jaydon Blue, RB, Texas
6 183 - BAL - tbsteel - Chase Lundt, T, Connecticut
6 203 - BAL - tbsteel - Ajani Cornelius, OT, Oregon
6* 210 - BAL - tbsteel - Benjamin Yurosek, TE, Georgia
6* 212 - BAL - tbsteel - Ryan Fitzgerald, K, Florida State
7 243 - BAL - tbsteel - R.J. Obem, EDGE, Notre Dame

[smithessmokin]

@Forty Three @FortyThree you are on the clock

[Steeldrama]

49ers a mess on both lines.
A major influx of talent is needed.

3 Shemar's= Awaiting R-O-N approval

Stewart- Perfect 10 RAS- Much more boom than bust
Turner- Mean, Nasty, hombre right here.
James- IDK he showed well Senior Bowl week.

49ers 2025 Draft Selections:

1.) Shemar Stewart DE Texas A&M
2.) Tyleik Williams DT Ohio State
3.) Marcus Mbow OL Purdue
3C.) Shemar Turner DT Texas A&M
4.) Billy Bowman S Oklahoma
4C) Barrett Carter LB Clemson
5.) Nohl Williams CB Cal
5) Jalen Travis OT Iowa State
6C.) Konata Mumpfield WR Pitt
7C,) Shemar James LB Florida

[Steelafan77]

The final draft for the Miami Dolphins.

This was a fun experience as usual.

I appreciate the opportunity to participate with you all.

1 Malaki Starks SAF Georgia
2 Alfred Collins DT Texas
3 Miles Frazier OG LSU
4a Demetrius Knight Jr. ILB South Carolina
4b Thomas Fidone II TE Nebraska
5a Dorian Strong CB Virginia Tech
5b Isaac Teslaa WR Arkansas
7a Collin Oliver Edge Oklahoma State
7b Trevor Etienne RB Georgia
7c Sean Martin DL West Virginia

[bradshaw2ben]

I approached this version of a Steelers draft as a thought experiment, prompted by that great article I posted a while back from an Eagles writer who pondered, "How would Howie Roseman fix the Steelers?"

I couldn't do some of the things he advocated, like trading TJ Watt (hard to do without including future picks and probably not too realistic for this franchise), Minkah Fitzpatrick, Pat Freiermuth, etc. But. I did look at it as a forward-facing draft, and tried to get younger, bigger, & faster... with a thought toward not positioning myself out of drafting a QB in 2026. Besides, let's be ready when that comes––building from the inside out.

So, here's what I did:

I went in to the draft, with this basic plan:
1. rebuild, refresh, strengthen DL & OL. I'm trying to QB-proof and Tomlin-proof a roster, get bigger-younger-faster.
2. trade a mid-day 3 pick for the lottery ticket that is Joe Milton (well worth a late pick to find out whether week 18 was an illusion or not
3. tried to be BPA as possible, with a lean toward filling the biggest holes remaining other than QB: RB, NCB, DT, & LT/OL depth.
4. move George Pickens if the value was there (because I think they aren't going to re-sign him for next year and they may even trade him if they end up with no name QB this year, at his request
5. move Roman Wilson, just because he's not a fit for this offense in any way... and I can QB-proof and Tomlin-proof an offense, but nobody can Arthur Smith-proof an offense.
6. diversify position groups: WR, RB, TE, DL, OL Avoid having too much of the same
7. get younger and cheaper

Got to 1.21 and there were lots of LT & DT types, so I took what was possibly an ill-advised small trade down to pick up a 5th round pick. Upside: I knew I was losing a 5th round pick for Milton, since we'd roughed out that deal a month ago + lots of DL/OL Downside: lost out on Derrick Harmon, who probably would have been a simpler choice. If I hadn't already committed to Joe Milton with the 5th, I would have been more inclined to stay. Knowing what I now know, probably would have been better to just take whichever DL I *really* wanted at 21 or even have taken the next DL I *really* wanted at 23. But. I'm Howie Roseman ad you can't go broke drafting BPAs in Round 1 who have fallen for no reason.

1 23 - PIT - B2B (from GB) - Armand Membou, OL, Missouri
Taking Membou who is a stud but is probably either playing RT or LG, just solidified the fact that guessing whether Broderick Jones can be an effective player by moving him to LT, while sacrificing Fautanu to play a position that isn't where he is accustomed to playing... made it obvious that I should at least attempt to move Broderick for a younger, more RT-friendly OT with LT upside... if I could get enough value.

Since I had no pick until the 3rd round and since, if I traded George Pickens, I had to be able to replace him with a WR who was going to be a dynamic piece with a different skill set, I had to get into the 2nd round.

2 54 - PIT - B2B (from GB) - T. J. Sanders, DL, South Carolina
There was a bit of a run on DTs between 1.23 and 2.54, so I thought it best not to waste any more time before getting a DL starter. Sanders has the body type I think is ideal for playing 5tech in what little base defense is played, while easily moving inside to more of a 3-tech in nickel. He's a very good run defender and also can cause havoc in pass-rushing opportunities.

2 57 - PIT - B2B (from CAR) - Savion Williams, WR, Texas Christian University
At this point, I found a buyer for Pickens AND Broderick, so I thought I wanted to get the most game-breaking guy I could get. If DK Metcalf is attracting a ton of attention on the other side, you have a big-bodied WR opposite him who can win RZ jump balls, get a good release and take slants/screens to the house, and can also be an addition to the RB crew. He was not just a gimmick player––he was TCU's primary short-yardage back or wildcat QB and he was great at it. I thnk the comparisons to Cordarelle Patterson are lazy-- Williams get open with his release, makes big-boy catches down the field... can be a real weapon in the NFL.

3 83 - PIT - B2B - Esa Pole, OT, Washington State
Took Pole as a developmental guy, but he's really, really came on strong in what was his 3rd year of playing football. It would not be a surprise for him to be able to start at RG and then be an OT starter for 10 years... hell he might even be able to start immediately if his stellar 2024 season is any indication. I also acquired Ja'Tyre Carter from Indianapolis... nice depth as a Tockle/Guard I liked coming out of Southern.

4 114 - PIT - B2B (from CAR) - Zeek Biggers, DT, Georgia Tech
Didn't want to pick a NT type who can't do anything but plug the run. Biggers might be the most athletic DT in the class, and I think he *could* be a dynamic rusher and pentrating player.

4 123 - PIT - B2B - Damien Martinez, RB, Miami (FL)
Alright, got a bunch of big people and secured a worthy successor to Pickens as DK Metcalf's running mate... now it's time for the needs not addressed in FA. Martinez fits Pittsburgh like a glove: has succeeded in every system, succeeded as a bell cow back, worked in a passing offense, is a good pass protector, great short-yardage back... he's their kind of guy.

5 159 - PIT - B2B (from GB - Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State
Williams can do a lot of stuff that adds to Metcalf's skillset... but one thing they've missed since DJ is gone, is a guy who wins in man coverage and gets open immediately. They also really need a guy who you can absolutely count on to make the catch on key downs. Horton has some of the best hands in football, routinely snatching balls away from his frame and making highlight sideline catches on impossible balls. He's also a good blocker, which fits.

6 185 - PIT - B2B - Maliq Carr, TE, Houston
Outlier, who ran the kind of 40yd dash that glorified WR type TEs, and he's 270Lbs instead of 230. He doesn't just block guys, he's smashmouthing them. He was great at Michigan State, and I wanted to draft him two years ago, before he decided to transfer.

7 229 - PIT - B2B - from Atlanta via Philadelphia[R7 - 8] - Marcus Harris, CB, Cal
NCB is a huge need and Harris is flying under the radar, most likely because he started his career at the FCS level. He had a very-highly graded season and his 2024 tape is very polished. In particular, his tackling stands out. He is the tackling equivalent of an extremely sure-handed receiver. Makes tough open field tackles look routine. This seems like a key part of playing the nickel-- have to be physical and have to tackle well and willingly. If you can offer all of that AND you run sub 4.4... a prize in round 7.

So, after all of that, this is what the "Steelers" depth chart looks like:



What do you think of this experiment?

[SteelerDayTrader]

I approached this version of a Steelers draft as a thought experiment, prompted by that great article I posted a while back from an Eagles writer who pondered, "How would Howie Roseman fix the Steelers?"

I couldn't do some of the things he advocated, like trading TJ Watt (hard to do without including future picks and probably not too realistic for this franchise), Minkah Fitzpatrick, Pat Freiermuth, etc. But. I did look at it as a forward-facing draft, and tried to get younger, bigger, & faster... with a thought toward not positioning myself out of drafting a QB in 2026. Besides, let's be ready when that comes––building from the inside out.

So, here's what I did:

I went in to the draft, with this basic plan:
1. rebuild, refresh, strengthen DL & OL. I'm trying to QB-proof and Tomlin-proof a roster, get bigger-younger-faster.
2. trade a mid-day 3 pick for the lottery ticket that is Joe Milton (well worth a late pick to find out whether week 18 was an illusion or not
3. tried to be BPA as possible, with a lean toward filling the biggest holes remaining other than QB: RB, NCB, DT, & LT/OL depth.
4. move George Pickens if the value was there (because I think they aren't going to re-sign him for next year and they may even trade him if they end up with no name QB this year, at his request
5. move Roman Wilson, just because he's not a fit for this offense in any way... and I can QB-proof and Tomlin-proof an offense, but nobody can Arthur Smith-proof an offense.
6. diversify position groups: WR, RB, TE, DL, OL Avoid having too much of the same
7. get younger and cheaper

Got to 1.21 and there were lots of LT & DT types, so I took what was possibly an ill-advised small trade down to pick up a 5th round pick. Upside: I knew I was losing a 5th round pick for Milton, since we'd roughed out that deal a month ago + lots of DL/OL Downside: lost out on Derrick Harmon, who probably would have been a simpler choice. If I hadn't already committed to Joe Milton with the 5th, I would have been more inclined to stay. Knowing what I now know, probably would have been better to just take whichever DL I *really* wanted at 21 or even have taken the next DL I *really* wanted at 23. But. I'm Howie Roseman ad you can't go broke drafting BPAs in Round 1 who have fallen for no reason.

1 23 - PIT - B2B (from GB) - Armand Membou, OL, Missouri
Taking Membou who is a stud but is probably either playing RT or LG, just solidified the fact that guessing whether Broderick Jones can be an effective player by moving him to LT, while sacrificing Fautanu to play a position that isn't where he is accustomed to playing... made it obvious that I should at least attempt to move Broderick for a younger, more RT-friendly OT with LT upside... if I could get enough value.

Since I had no pick until the 3rd round and since, if I traded George Pickens, I had to be able to replace him with a WR who was going to be a dynamic piece with a different skill set, I had to get into the 2nd round.

2 54 - PIT - B2B (from GB) - T. J. Sanders, DL, South Carolina
There was a bit of a run on DTs between 1.23 and 2.54, so I thought it best not to waste any more time before getting a DL starter. Sanders has the body type I think is ideal for playing 5tech in what little base defense is played, while easily moving inside to more of a 3-tech in nickel. He's a very good run defender and also can cause havoc in pass-rushing opportunities.

2 57 - PIT - B2B (from CAR) - Savion Williams, WR, Texas Christian University
At this point, I found a buyer for Pickens AND Broderick, so I thought I wanted to get the most game-breaking guy I could get. If DK Metcalf is attracting a ton of attention on the other side, you have a big-bodied WR opposite him who can win RZ jump balls, get a good release and take slants/screens to the house, and can also be an addition to the RB crew. He was not just a gimmick player––he was TCU's primary short-yardage back or wildcat QB and he was great at it. I thnk the comparisons to Cordarelle Patterson are lazy-- Williams get open with his release, makes big-boy catches down the field... can be a real weapon in the NFL.

3 83 - PIT - B2B - Esa Pole, OT, Washington State
Took Pole as a developmental guy, but he's really, really came on strong in what was his 3rd year of playing football. It would not be a surprise for him to be able to start at RG and then be an OT starter for 10 years... hell he might even be able to start immediately if his stellar 2024 season is any indication. I also acquired Ja'Tyre Carter from Indianapolis... nice depth as a Tockle/Guard I liked coming out of Southern.

4 114 - PIT - B2B (from CAR) - Zeek Biggers, DT, Georgia Tech
Didn't want to pick a NT type who can't do anything but plug the run. Biggers might be the most athletic DT in the class, and I think he *could* be a dynamic rusher and pentrating player.

4 123 - PIT - B2B - Damien Martinez, RB, Miami (FL)
Alright, got a bunch of big people and secured a worthy successor to Pickens as DK Metcalf's running mate... now it's time for the needs not addressed in FA. Martinez fits Pittsburgh like a glove: has succeeded in every system, succeeded as a bell cow back, worked in a passing offense, is a good pass protector, great short-yardage back... he's their kind of guy.

5 159 - PIT - B2B (from GB - Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State
Williams can do a lot of stuff that adds to Metcalf's skillset... but one thing they've missed since DJ is gone, is a guy who wins in man coverage and gets open immediately. They also really need a guy who you can absolutely count on to make the catch on key downs. Horton has some of the best hands in football, routinely snatching balls away from his frame and making highlight sideline catches on impossible balls. He's also a good blocker, which fits.

6 185 - PIT - B2B - Maliq Carr, TE, Houston
Outlier, who ran the kind of 40yd dash that glorified WR type TEs, and he's 270Lbs instead of 230. He doesn't just block guys, he's smashmouthing them. He was great at Michigan State, and I wanted to draft him two years ago, before he decided to transfer.

7 229 - PIT - B2B - from Atlanta via Philadelphia[R7 - 8] - Marcus Harris, CB, Cal
NCB is a huge need and Harris is flying under the radar, most likely because he started his career at the FCS level. He had a very-highly graded season and his 2024 tape is very polished. In particular, his tackling stands out. He is the tackling equivalent of an extremely sure-handed receiver. Makes tough open field tackles look routine. This seems like a key part of playing the nickel-- have to be physical and have to tackle well and willingly. If you can offer all of that AND you run sub 4.4... a prize in round 7.

So, after all of that, this is what the "Steelers" depth chart looks like:



What do you think of this experiment?

I like it

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Colts are happy with their draft

Almost none of you have a clue how close we came to CRAZY GREAT status

Bow down motherfuckers


Lolololz

[Steelperch]

Browns final draft haul

1 - 2 CLE - SteelPerch - Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State

2 33 - CLE - SteelPerch - Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina

3 67 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State

3 94 - CLE - SteelPerch - Omarr Norman-Lott, DT, Tennessee

4 104 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jacob Parrish, CB, Kansas State

6 179 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jack Kiser, LB, Notre Dame

6 192 - CLE - SteelPerch - Mitchell Evans, TE, Notre Dame

6 200 - CLE - SteelPerch - Yahya Black, DL, Iowa

6* 216 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jarquez Hunter, RB, Auburn

7* 255 - CLE - SteelPerch - Xavier Truss, OG, Georgia

Maybe not the flashiest haul, but my Browns attempted to emulate the Eagles method of roster building with a dominant DLine and strong running game. Abdul Carter and Myles Garrett off the edge will be impossible to stop, Omar Norman Lott adds a skilled interior pass rush as a rotational player on that line. Yahya Black gives the Browns another big run stuffer and makes that D line good and deep enough to give any offense fits and keep them in most games.

On the other side of the ball, the Browns will lack a QB for another year, hoping to land a good one in the next draft. Omarion Hampton coupled with Jerome Ford and late round pick Jarquez Hunter gives the Browns a very strong and deep RB group. Jalen Royals and Mitchell Evans rounds out the skill positions on the offense to the point they are ready to be a pretty good team if they get the QB right next year.

[smithessmokin]

I closed this thing out with a Mr. Irrelevant, and that's a first. Happy with what I was able to do for the Chiefs, the trade down in Round 1 was key after I missed out on trading up for Derrick Harmon 21 and then didn't want to give as much up for Membou at 23. Fixing the Cheifs pass rush was my main intent behind this exercise. The pride of the Steve Spagnulo defense was/is to get pressure with your front 4. Late in the year, it seemed like the pass rush faded, and then Chris Jones leaving in Super Bowl exacerbated need. Key backups departed in free agency, so the need was dire. Alexander and Burch both add some necessary athleticism to the line while also offering real pass rushing upside. Morrison was a luxury pick that luckily didn't cost me my chance at Anthony Belton, at guy who I definitely think can play LT...and so be if it that I'm wrong, an outstanding LG. The Chiefs signed Jaylon Moore to compete for LT and with picking and the back end of every round, I didn't there was much of an opportunity outside of reaching on some guys I was less optimistic on (Banks, etc.) So Belton can start at LG if they need him too and kick out in the coming years. Felt like I needed to add some more playmakers given the fact that while Rashee Rice is awesome in the offense...he's coming back hurt and headed for at least a half of a season suspension. White and Broden couldn't be more opposite of one another, but both can make game winning type of plays. White is super quick and Broden at 6'7" is imposing with his length. Simmons and Silmon-Craig are some really nice football players, who might not have tested fantastic, but are hard-wired football guys. Rourke of course is my homeboy from the emerging college football power Indiana Hoosiers. I couldn't let him not be drafted, just couldn't. In all reality though, he's the type of QB that could excel in the Kansas City offense if he's ever thrust into action. He's got a quick release and is a smart QB, which sometimes is all you need when you have a master play caller running your offense. LeQuint Allen was another luxury pick and probably wasn't the best fit considering the other backs on the board at the time...but again, sometimes you just draft good football players.

42 Darius Alexander DT TOL
63 Jordan Burch DE OR
66 Ben Morrison CB ND
95 Anthony Belton T NC ST
133 Ricky White WR UNLV
145 LeQuint Allen RB SYR
207 Shammari Simmons S ASU
226 Tyrone Broden WR ARK
251 Kurtis Rourke QB IU
257 Cam'Ron Silmon-Craig S COL

[Gonzo]

NY Jets pleased with their draft


1.7 Tyler Warren - TE - Penn State
1.31 traded up for Nick Emmanwori - S - S. Carolina
3.73 Ozzy Trapilo - OT - Boston College
4.110 Dont’e Thornton - WR - Tennessee
5.162 Cam Jackson - DT - FSU
6.186 Tyler Shough - QB - Louisville

[Charles Demarr]

The Lions didn't have many glaring needs. They checked off quite a few of them in free agency. DJ Reed being the marquee addition.

1.) Mike Green Edge Marshall: allegations of sexual misconduct coming out at the combine will definitely scare some teams away. Green being available at 28 very well may be a scenario staring down the Lions on night 1. Best pass rusher I watched last year. Relentless motor, feels like a Dan Campbell guy. Had a sack and multiple pressures against the national champion Ohio State Buckeyes.

2.) Wyatt Milum G WV: Not a sexy pick at all, but a guy who will be in the league for 10-12 years guaranteed. Fills the 2nd biggest need after Kevin Zeitler departed. He'll battle Christian Mahogany for a starting position.

3.) Gunnar Helm TE Texas: Too much value to pass up for a team rolling with Brock Wright as their TE #2. Another weapon in the high powered Lion's offense.

4.) Zah Frazier CB UTSA: Right after I made this pick, the Lions added Rock Ya Sin in free agency. Not sure they'll draft a corner but Frazier's measurables are intriguing. Could be an excellent developmental guy.

6.) Cody Simon LB National Champions: Undersized LB who may end up at safety in the NFL. His versatility and coverage ability are strengths. Always around the ball, played his best football during the playoffs.

7.) Jerjuan Newton WR Toledo: NFL bloodlines to go along with 30 TDS in the last 3 years. 1000+ receiving last year with poor QB play. He's a big play waiting to happen.

7.) Marcus Yarns RB Delaware: 7th round dart throw. Highly productive developmental guy for a team loaded with RBs.

[OhioSteeler]

Houston had to try and fix all the OL issues that they caused themselves. I also wanted to grab a couple offensive playmakers and help out an aging DL. Overall I think Houston came out of the draft a better team.

1 25 - Tyler Booker, OL, Alabama
2 58 - Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State
3 79 - Jonah Savaiinaea, OG, Arizona
3 89 - Danny Stutsman, LB, Oklahoma
5 166 - Aeneas Peebles, DT, Virginia Tech
7 236 - Tim Smith, DL, Alabama
7 241 - Jacory Croskey-Merritt, RB, Arizona

[ol skool]

1.21 Derrick Harmon - DT - Oregon
*Traded 2.54 for George Pickens*
3.87 Jalen Milroe - RB - Alabama
4.124 Mac McWilliams - CB - UCF
6.198 Tyler Batty - DE - BYU
7.237 Tommy Mellott - WR - Montana St
7.250 Jay Higgins - LB - Iowa

Harmon’s ceiling is Cam Heyward; exactly what we’re looking for on a team with scant versatile DL.

Welcome to a modern NFL offense, Mr Pickens. Hopefully you thrive and stick around. If not, the comp pick next year will make the gamble worth while.

Milroe and Mellott are talented football players who just aren’t QBs. Fortunately we have real offensive minds in Green Bay who can get the most out of them. And the idea is: rather than go all in on being the biggest and fastest, I’m going for hardest to figure out based on personnel grouping.

When it comes to McWilliams, Batty and Higgins, they all play with their hair on fire. I can overlook things like age and 40 time if you bring that kind of energy.

[bradshaw2ben]

1.21 Derrick Harmon - DT - Oregon
*Traded 2.54 for George Pickens*
3.87 Jalen Milroe - RB - Alabama
4.124 Mac McWilliams - CB - UCF
6.198 Tyler Batty - DE - BYU
7.237 Tommy Mellott - WR - Montana St
7.250 Jay Higgins - LB - Iowa

Harmon’s ceiling is Cam Heyward; exactly what we’re looking for on a team with scant versatile DL.

Welcome to a modern NFL offense, Mr Pickens. Hopefully you thrive and stick around. If not, the comp pick next year will make the gamble worth while.

Milroe and Mellott are talented football players who just aren’t QBs. Fortunately we have real offensive minds in Green Bay who can get the most out of them. And the idea is: rather than go all in on being the biggest and fastest, I’m going for hardest to figure out based on personnel grouping.

When it comes to McWilliams, Batty and Higgins, they all play with their hair on fire. I can overlook things like age and 40 time if you bring that kind of energy.

Higgins is really good and its a damn shame his prospects will be defined by his 40 time.

[bradshaw2ben]

Browns final draft haul

1 - 2 CLE - SteelPerch - Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State

2 33 - CLE - SteelPerch - Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina

3 67 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State

3 94 - CLE - SteelPerch - Omarr Norman-Lott, DT, Tennessee

4 104 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jacob Parrish, CB, Kansas State

6 179 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jack Kiser, LB, Notre Dame

6 192 - CLE - SteelPerch - Mitchell Evans, TE, Notre Dame

6 200 - CLE - SteelPerch - Yahya Black, DL, Iowa

6* 216 - CLE - SteelPerch - Jarquez Hunter, RB, Auburn

7* 255 - CLE - SteelPerch - Xavier Truss, OG, Georgia

Maybe not the flashiest haul, but my Browns attempted to emulate the Eagles method of roster building with a dominant DLine and strong running game. Abdul Carter and Myles Garrett off the edge will be impossible to stop, Omar Norman Lott adds a skilled interior pass rush as a rotational player on that line. Yahya Black gives the Browns another big run stuffer and makes that D line good and deep enough to give any offense fits and keep them in most games.

On the other side of the ball, the Browns will lack a QB for another year, hoping to land a good one in the next draft. Omarion Hampton coupled with Jerome Ford and late round pick Jarquez Hunter gives the Browns a very strong and deep RB group. Jalen Royals and Mitchell Evans rounds out the skill positions on the offense to the point they are ready to be a pretty good team if they get the QB right next year.

I always enjoy how you approach these drafts... but I will admit your class seemed a little different this time--more fit to the needs of the Browns. I think they have a helluva dilemma about whether to pick Sahdeur or not. Heck, they ought to be thinking about moving up to 1.1.

[tbsteel]

As a casual draft guy at best, and a complete moron at most, would you more knowledgable folks say that this year's class isn't very deep?

Maybe it's just getting a little older, or losing some interest given the current state of affairs for the Steelers, but I was struggling to get excited about any guys once I got into the fifth round or so. I just don't see a) many true high-end guys plus b) not a very deep class at all. Am I completely off here?

[Ice]

I can see 10, maybe 12 guys in that r7 haul who could easily make a roster or PS.

[SteelerDayTrader]

As a casual draft guy at best, and a complete moron at most, would you more knowledgable folks say that this year's class isn't very deep?

Maybe it's just getting a little older, or losing some interest given the current state of affairs for the Steelers, but I was struggling to get excited about any guys once I got into the fifth round or so. I just don't see a) many true high-end guys plus b) not a very deep class at all. Am I completely off here?

I wanted to trade down outta the 3rd for that reason

Just a very rough theory but I’m guessing NIL dilutes each class

Previously the draft was basically JRs SRs and 5th yrs

Now if your really top tier there is a possibility for many players you’ll make more JR SR and 5th yr than you would on a 4yr rookie deal just depending how much boosters will throw at you

AND

You still get 3 yrs of young ripe college pussy

AND

You rarely really need your A game to win

[SteelerDayTrader]

I can see 10, maybe 12 guys in that r7 haul who could easily make a roster or PS.

I agree

I could probably put together a decent SF mock UDFA team

[bradshaw2ben]

As a casual draft guy at best, and a complete moron at most, would you more knowledgable folks say that this year's class isn't very deep?

Maybe it's just getting a little older, or losing some interest given the current state of affairs for the Steelers, but I was struggling to get excited about any guys once I got into the fifth round or so. I just don't see a) many true high-end guys plus b) not a very deep class at all. Am I completely off here?

I think it’s very deep but the super high quality is like 5 guys and the high quality is about 40 more. But 45-250 are pretty dang good. Better than some years. I keep thinking we’re going to reach the end of Covid year guys filling out the later part of the draft, but it’s the gift that keeps on giving.

[jebrick]

As a casual draft guy at best, and a complete moron at most, would you more knowledgable folks say that this year's class isn't very deep?

Maybe it's just getting a little older, or losing some interest given the current state of affairs for the Steelers, but I was struggling to get excited about any guys once I got into the fifth round or so. I just don't see a) many true high-end guys plus b) not a very deep class at all. Am I completely off here?

I think it’s very deep but the super high quality is like 5 guys and the high quality is about 40 more. But 45-250 are pretty dang good. Better than some years. I keep thinking we’re going to reach the end of Covid year guys filling out the later part of the draft, but it’s the gift that keeps on giving.

The amount of quality NT in this draft is pretty amazing. The 5-techs, especially the high end 5-techs are pretty damm good.

[Steeldrama]

If you’re really bored, check and see how many prospects in this (and many recent drafts) are from the state of Georgia.

I’m too lazy to check, but the number has to be among the highest in the continental United States if not the highest (I’m sure Texas and CA etc still ranked near the top).

Prominent local kids:

Travis Hunter CB Colorado via Jackson St= Suwanee, GA (Collins Hill HS)
Barrett Carter LB Clemson = Suwanee, GA (North Gwinnett HS-My son’s former HS)
Jared Ivey DE Ole Miss via GA Tech=Suwanee, GA (North Gwinnett HS)
Jordan Hancock CB Ohio St via Clemson= Suwanee, GA (Former Drama Student, North Gwinnett HS)
Isaiah Bond WR Texas via Alabama= Buford, GA (Buford HS-My son’s current HS)

[tbsteel]

Good stuff guys. Well then, sounds like we should trade down. If it's a deep DL class and there's not a WR that far and away stands out at 21, seems like this year more than most is a good year to work a trade down. Hopefully Omar is game.

[Charles Demarr]

Did Xavier Restrepo just run himself into the UDFA pool? A 4.83 forty???

[Steeldrama]

No time for a formal write up of the board draft this year, but I’ll post some random thoughts here and there:

OUR Division:

Some heavy hitters here with Perch, Corey, B2B, and yes you, TB.

Let’s start with Perch and his (shit) Stains:

Grade= A-bove the line (if you will)

• Penn State homerism worked in Perch’s favor with Abdul Carter (nice outfit lol) the Browns’ likely choice if they stay put at 2. I may be the only Shedeur Sanders fan on the board, but even I don’t think he is worthy of being a top 5 pick.
• More shocked I could not be to see Perch deviate from the Power 5 (4) and draft the Utah State fella. So shocked was I, that I promptly texted B2B to ask if Perch was feeling ok. Good pick in a poor WR class.
• “Nickel Back” comment when selecting mega plodding DT Yahya Black made me chuckle. Wit on a stick is Mr. Perch.
• Kind of a boring draft this year in that nobody poached me, but RB Jarquez Hunter a guy I (Stupidly) passed on only to have Perch snag him immediately after I went in another direction. Kid can play.

Corey and Fractal’s Bengals

Grade= A-ngelic

• Let me start by saying I’ve been doing this draft exercise for like what 20 years? Posters come and posters go. FC, IC, and now Fractal are just a few draft warlords that I miss being a part of the board mock action. Fractal, if you’re no longer with us…RIP.
• This Corey fella an admirable fill in for my guy Fractal. Kid knows his stuff. The only pick of his I didn’t like was taking scUM’s Will Johnson. Kid can’t stay healthy enough to even run a 40.
• National Champ Donovan Jackson a steal mid rd 2. Versatility on a stick and protects Glass Joe.
• DT Jay Toia in rd 5 was a who? Kinda pick for me, but I love when I google and curse myself for not having a viable prospect on my big board.
• Like Jarquez Hunter, I passed on DJ Giddens one too many times. I still say the quality in this RB class doesn’t match the 2017 crew of CMC, Kamara, Cook etc but it is just as deep.

B2B’s Beloved Steelers

Grade= B+ravo

• Admittedly, I was a little annoyed by the Broderick Jones fleecing. Hell no Jimmy Johnson shouldn’t apologize for robbing the Vikings in the Herschel Walker trade, but I prefer the board mock trades to lean toward the realistic. The degenerates in my Boats ‘N Hoes fantasy football league (also an exercise in fictional football) would’ve vetoed that deal with the quickness. Carolina, while not the brightest organization, has holes much bigger than OL. They’re not dumping early 2nd rounder on mega-bust Broderick Jones. A day 3 pick? Meh. With a chaser I could swallow it.
• Membou was under serious consideration by my 49ers at pick 11 so going at pick #23 represents tremendous value,
• Following that pick with Stud Cock TJ Sanders shows the depth of the DT class but…
• …that pick doesn’t happen without another questionable trade. Yes, Pickens could very well net a 2nd (I doubt it) but an uber-conservative organization like the Packers would be one of the last teams I’d expect to deal for Crazy George. Good trade for both fictional GM’s however.
• This is why we come here. B2B’s Cam crush most likely led him to OT Esa Pole. Who? Exactly. Couldn’t find him on Zierlein’s list, Draft Buzz, or CBS so does that mean he won’t get even get drafted? No. It means I/We/You learned about a prospect most of us knew nothing about prior to this exercise.
• Damien Martinez- If the Steelers wait until day 3 to address their gaping hole at RB, this name should be near the top of your wish list.
• A big thanks to B2B for running the show as always. Smooth operation.

TB quotes the Raven

Grade = B+altimorons

• For claiming to not know much about this draft class, TB had his usual solid haul with his top 3 picks sure to be instant impact players.
• “Rat” otherwise known as UGA's Tate Ratledge, is quite the character. Hopefully, he and fellow TB draftee Ben Yorosek don’t crash their cars into an apartment complex before draft night. What in the ever loving fuck, Kirby? Get your program in order man.
• The Ravens are hoping the 4 lane highway the Steelers leave open for Derrick Henry also applies to TB’s 5th rd pick, Jaydon Blue, the speedster out of Texas.


Overall, a High quality effort by the fictional GM's of the AFC Norf

[bradshaw2ben]

If you’re really bored, check and see how many prospects in this (and many recent drafts) are from the state of Georgia.

I’m too lazy to check, but the number has to be among the highest in the continental United States if not the highest (I’m sure Texas and CA etc still ranked near the top).

Prominent local kids:

Travis Hunter CB Colorado via Jackson St= Suwanee, GA (Collins Hill HS)
Barrett Carter LB Clemson = Suwanee, GA (North Gwinnett HS-My son’s former HS)
Jared Ivey DE Ole Miss via GA Tech=Suwanee, GA (North Gwinnett HS)
Jordan Hancock CB Ohio St via Clemson= Suwanee, GA (Former Drama Student, North Gwinnett HS)
Isaiah Bond WR Texas via Alabama= Buford, GA (Buford HS-My son’s current HS)

There are a few I don't know which state they are from but of the confirmed, it's 289 out of 3615 in my database from Georgia. The 3615 represents the prospects thought of as in consideration for the draft plus anyone who worked out at a combine or pro day.

[bradshaw2ben]

If I had stayed at 21 and just taken Derrick Harmon, I wouldn't have traded Broderick. Admittedly, I would had to sweat out for a 3rd round OL I liked as a developmental guy.

As for trades: players are worth what someone is willing to pay. Pickens trade value right now is DEFINITELY no worse than a high 3, because he nets a bottom three eventually as a comp pick. Future value of a 2027 pick 100 would be 2 rounds earlier, plus you get the value of a young and not-frequently-available top flight WR.

And, as I said, I won't be at all surprised if they move him at some point between Aaron Rodgers deciding not to play for the Steelers and the trade deadline, so I wanted to exercise that.

Esa Pole I noticed playing with Cam, all right, but what I noticed is that he was part of a sieve-like OL last year. But then I saw something during the season where he was the highestgraded pass protector in all of CFB at one point, and I was like-- wait, what? Went back and watched him... rarely have seen such an improvement in one year, unless you want to count rookie Troy Polamalu --> 2nd year Troy.

Thing about Zierlein and other draft stalwarts (and this is true of BLESTO and most teams) is that they face a lot of pressure to get through prospects we already knew were going to be good since they were 4/5 star recruits out of high school. Between those guys and those slightly lower recruits who had early breakouts in power programs, that pretty much fills up the sheet.

Late-bloomers and small-schoolers aren't really Lance's domain, although he does cover anyone like that who gets a Senior Bowl invite and, once he's done for the year with the combine write-ups––to his credit-- he will have a look at and sometimes write up sleepers he hears about.

I love Lance's writeups but my issue with him is his grades are 100% based on slotting the prospects into where they fall in consensus, with very few--and usually small––deviations on occasion for a player he really likes or dislikes.

Considering he does his grades after consensus is pretty solidified, it puts a smirk on my face to see the list of grades match the twitter draft boards more often than not. Emory Hunt might be all over the place and biased toward certain kinds of players, but at least he's unique and honest with grades. (actually I think he was better when he was less busy and did all the grades himself but that's another story for another day).

[Charles Demarr]

I like Lance Z as well. With that said, his grades, write ups, and comps seem lazy to me this year. Not as thorough as in the past.