"Clank" Sanders tearing it up in preseason

[Legacy User]

a buck twenty eight last week and 2 scores, 4/99 and a 67 yd TD tonight vs Texans D.

Having a good preseason

Its early, but they aren't missing Eric Decker too much right now

Could be in for a big year

[Havoc]

I'm interested to see how Sanders and Ziggy fare in their new surroundings.

I have nfl network on, just saw that long TD pass to sanders.

[Steelperch]

Do you guys realize you are watching the game from last week?

[Legacy User]

Do you guys realize you are watching the game from last week?

Shhhhh.....don't spoil it.

[Legacy User]

and another TD for him

[tbsteel]

A guy like Peyton gets the absolute best out of the guys he plays with. Pretty remarkable really to watch it happen over and over again. I expect Sanders to have the best season of his career this year.

[Legacy User]

don't ruin Perch

shhhhhh

[Steelperch]

and another TD for him

Bet you $100 that the Broncos lose by exactly 1 point. call it a hunch.

[Legacy User]

and another TD for him

Bet you $100 that the Broncos lose by exactly 1 point. call it a hunch.

Your on

I turned game on 5 minutes ago and he scored 2 TD's. Didn't realize it was replay. I thought there were games on tonight.

[Steelperch]

and another TD for him

Bet you $100 that the Broncos lose by exactly 1 point. call it a hunch.

Your on

I turned game on 5 minutes ago and he scored 2 TD's. Didn't realize it was replay. I thought there were games on tonight.

Yeah, but what are the odds they lose by exactly 1 point two weeks in a row?

[Flanker]

On the first highlight I see of him in Denver he makes a diving catch in the endzone and holds onto it through hard contact with the ground. I couldn't believe it, that was by far my biggest complaint about his play in Pittsburgh... figures.

[Havoc]

Do you guys realize you are watching the game from last week?

Yes. I had not watched any of this game or seen any of the highlights.

[Legacy User]

It's easy to look amazing in preseason. Let's see him do it when it counts.

[BethlehemSteel]

Sanders is still a pole smoker for his garbage play and garbage mouth. Hoping he gets implanted into sideline yardage marker pole and has to get his vagina sewn up

[Legacy User]

That's a little extreme.

I think he's in for a career year playing with Manning in an offense that actually tries to feature its future Hall of Fame QB rather than limiting him.

[Legacy User]

That's a little extreme.

I think he's in for a career year playing with Manning in an offense that actually tries to feature its future Hall of Fame QB rather than limiting him.

Yeah, I have no doubt he'll play well with Manning. He wouldn't be the first average player that Manning turned into a weapon.

Doesn't excuse his play here, though.

[Joe Steeler Fan]

Even Limas Sweed caught passes in the pre-season.

Let's see how he does when the pressure of regular season is on before we crown him the next coming of Steve Smith.

[Nick79]

A guy like Peyton gets the absolute best out of the guys he plays with. Pretty remarkable really to watch it happen over and over again. I expect Sanders to have the best season of his career this year.

It's not just Peyton, it's the offense he's ALLOWED to run. He's not forced to milk the clock and use X% running plays that he doesn't want to use, he has free reign to go out there and chase TDs all day, in any situation down and distance. It's not like he gets inside the RZ and then feels pressured to run the ball.

[Nick79]

That's a little extreme.

I think he's in for a career year playing with Manning in an offense that actually tries to feature its future Hall of Fame QB rather than limiting him.

Yeah, I have no doubt he'll play well with Manning. He wouldn't be the first average player that Manning turned into a weapon.

Doesn't excuse his play here, though.

That's also been said about Ben.

[Mick]

When did an average player look good for peyton?

[R_S]

Sanders may have been the most unclutch WR in the league. We will see what happens.



At first thought, I did agree that Peyton has made average players look good. But now that I'm thinking about it I'm not so sure. For the Colts he was throwing to Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Dallas Clark most of his career there. He has also had an all star lineup of targets in Denver. The only person that comes to mind is Jacob Tamme, and that was only for a half season when he stepped in for an injured Clark in Indy if I recall.

[Kodiak]

I think it's the system more than Manning. You can argue one in the same, but his teams have always done a great job at finding guys who fit that system. For his part, Manning is very demanding with regard to guys thinking and being disciplined. Ben practicing broken plays and improv with his guys is literally the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

Manning might be the most accurate QB in history. No disputing that. He also relies more on timing and option routes than anyone else, and it's not even close - that is the primary reason why his offenses have been so good in the regular season and often so awful in the post season.

So there is a lot of smoke-and-mirrors going on. It's a great system for piling up stats, winning championships not so much.

[Mick]

I think it's the system more than Manning. You can argue one in the same, but his teams have always done a great job at finding guys who fit that system. For his part, Manning is very demanding with regard to guys thinking and being disciplined. Ben practicing broken plays and improv with his guys is literally the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

Manning might be the most accurate QB in history. No disputing that. He also relies more on timing and option routes than anyone else, and it's not even close - that is the primary reason why his offenses have been so good in the regular season and often so awful in the post season.

So there is a lot of smoke-and-mirrors going on. It's a great system for piling up stats, winning championships not so much.

I wouldnt say 'his teams have always done a great job of finding guys'.

They just never let any good wr/te walk while he's been around.

Where steelers let ben wave goodbye to plax, el, washington, holmes, wallace, and then almost everyone last year.

Colts were struggling to find skill guys there, so peyton looked around and picked a new team.

[Legacy User]

A guy like Peyton gets the absolute best out of the guys he plays with. Pretty remarkable really to watch it happen over and over again. I expect Sanders to have the best season of his career this year.

It's not just Peyton, it's the offense he's ALLOWED to run. He's not forced to milk the clock and use X% running plays that he doesn't want to use, he has free reign to go out there and chase TDs all day, in any situation down and distance. It's not like he gets inside the RZ and then feels pressured to run the ball.

Doesn't feel right to me. I'm going to pass on PASS PASS PASS

[lifelongsteel]

Can't remember the numbers, but back during the great crash of July (or maybe it was June), I predicted something like 80/1200/8 for Manny.

If Welker is out for an extended period those numbers go up.

People wanting to look at one individual factor are missing it. It's the combination of factors: better offense, better QB, B+ receiver in second year as a full time starter.

He may drop one of two, but he'll get open. when he gets open Manning will find him. the numbers will be large.

[Kodiak]

He may drop one of two, but he'll get open. when he gets open Manning will find him. the numbers will be large.

That's been his problem. He doesn't "drop" as many passes as criticized for but rather fails to make his share of the tougher catches (50/50 balls where Sanders is maybe more like 20/80).

He also struggles to get separation, which will be a bit of a challenge for 'ol noodle arm. Especially on the longer "X" routes, Sanders just isn't very fluid or consistent with running those.

Under no circumstances do I see Sanders as a 1200 yard capable receiver. I don't think 1000/8TD's is out of the question, but Welker going down might actually hurt Sanders as he'll get more attention. As the 3rd/4th option in that offense he could easily get 1000/8, but as the 2nd guy I think his production is unchanged with a drop in efficiency.

[lifelongsteel]

He may drop one of two, but he'll get open. when he gets open Manning will find him. the numbers will be large.

That's been his problem. He doesn't "drop" as many passes as criticized for but rather fails to make his share of the tougher catches (50/50 balls where Sanders is maybe more like 20/80).

He also struggles to get separation, which will be a bit of a challenge for 'ol noodle arm. Especially on the longer "X" routes, Sanders just isn't very fluid or consistent with running those.

Under no circumstances do I see Sanders as a 1200 yard capable receiver. I don't think 1000/8TD's is out of the question, but Welker going down might actually hurt Sanders as he'll get more attention. As the 3rd/4th option in that offense he could easily get 1000/8, but as the 2nd guy I think his production is unchanged with a drop in efficiency.

Sanders can get separation. He's better horizontally than vertically. That's one reason i think his numbers could explode without Welker. He'll be the guy running those little crossers on 3rd and 3 instead of Welker. He's going to get a lot of RAC opportunities (and even if he fumbles in the open field he'll get credit for the yards)

[Legacy User]

even if he fumbles in the open field he'll get credit for the yards

[bradshaw2ben]

He also struggles to get separation, which will be a bit of a challenge for 'ol noodle arm. Especially on the longer "X" routes, Sanders just isn't very fluid or consistent with running those.

I disagree. He looks great on breaking routes-- was forced into this vertical fly/fade role that doesn't suit his skills at all. He's an ankle-breaker double move guy who should be great running sluggo and out and up etc

[Steelafan77]

Welker may have numbered days with the concussions adding up. The more concussions you sustain the more frequently you are concussed. Sanders may have hit the lottery there in Denver. We'll see. I can't help but root against the asshat but I have no doubt manning to sanders will be in the highlights this season.