Tomlin inks 3 year extension

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Re: Tomlin inks 3 year extension

Post by DP39 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:33 am

beerbrother wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:14 am
Stillerz Bar wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 pm

Tomlin
Reg season 145-78-1 (.650)
Playoffs 8-8 (.500)
AFCC 2-1
SB 1-1

Cowher
Reg season 149-90-1 (.623)
Playoffs 12-9 (.571)
AFCC 2-4
SB 1-1
Interesting.

Tomlin
Regular Season Games: 224 (14 Seasons)
Playoff Games: 16
Total # of Games: 240
Avg # Games/Season: 17.1
Total # Lost: 86
Avg # Lost/Season: 6.1

Cowher
Regular Season Games: 240 (15 Seasons)
Playoff Games: 21
Total # of Games: 261
Avg # Games/Season: 17.4
Total # Lost: 99
Avg # Lost/Season: 6.6

It appears that while Cowher won more playoff games he had a slightly higher average of losses per season. So we suffered watching the games with Cowher at coach slightly more that Tomlin. If that is actually possible.
How many years did Cowher have a future HOF QB? I know Tomlin's had one every year.... :roll:



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Post by langer » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:35 am

Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see this coming. Art II appears to be a drunken imbecile unable to change with the times. It is what it is, as they say, obviously and so forth, if you will.

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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:40 am

Wait till Ben leaves we see what the genius does

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:15 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:40 am
Wait till Ben leaves we see what the genius does
And here's the thing about 2019 - won 3 or 4 with Mason, and then defenses had enough film and adjusted. The offense went from awful to invisible. Then in comes Duck, and they win like 4 games until defenses get enough film and adjust. The offense went from awful back to invisible.

Now those two are terrible. But the idea that Tomlin is going to squeeze out 8 wins with the typical NFL mediocre QB is a pipe dream. Unless he does something novel where he keeps changing QB's after 4 or 5 games.

This has been a pattern for several years now, with and without Ben, and on both sides of the ball. The team peaks/plateaus in November and then that's it. No answers.
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Post by Ice » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am

Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am

Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.
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Post by Ice » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:02 am

I mean, anxiety I get, but anxiety is not the color of this thread's hair.
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:08 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.
The browns game was very reminiscent of the Jags game.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:58 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.

I can understand that. I think it was the only playoff game in which the Steelers had Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant all on the field. The defense had its usual post-season choke job, but the Jags were a bad match-up for our D that year even with Shazier. Then losing Shazier ripped out their hearts. I don't understand why the Steelers seemed to be looking ahead and not taking the Jags seriously when the Jags had already beaten them earlier in the year.

For me, the last straw was the 2018 collapse. That slow-motion trainwreck highlighted every weakness and shortcoming in Tomlin's repertoire.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:15 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:58 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.

I can understand that. I think it was the only playoff game in which the Steelers had Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant all on the field. The defense had its usual post-season choke job, but the Jags were a bad match-up for our D that year even with Shazier. Then losing Shazier ripped out their hearts. I don't understand why the Steelers seemed to be looking ahead and not taking the Jags seriously when the Jags had already beaten them earlier in the year.

For me, the last straw was the 2018 collapse. That slow-motion trainwreck highlighted every weakness and shortcoming in Tomlin's repertoire.
Agree, Zeke.

W&M, the thing about the Jags loss was that no one expected the defense to be stout, especially not against Jax, but the sieve style defense was putrid.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:39 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:15 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:58 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am


The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.

I can understand that. I think it was the only playoff game in which the Steelers had Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant all on the field. The defense had its usual post-season choke job, but the Jags were a bad match-up for our D that year even with Shazier. Then losing Shazier ripped out their hearts. I don't understand why the Steelers seemed to be looking ahead and not taking the Jags seriously when the Jags had already beaten them earlier in the year.

For me, the last straw was the 2018 collapse. That slow-motion trainwreck highlighted every weakness and shortcoming in Tomlin's repertoire.
Agree, Zeke.

W&M, the thing about the Jags loss was that no one expected the defense to be stout, especially not against Jax, but the sieve style defense was putrid.
Definitely. I think Butler should have been shown the door with Haley after the Jags debacle. I was willing to give Tomlin one more chance with new coordinators, though. I wanted him gone after 2018. I think Tomlin's now in Jeff Fisher / Marvin Lewis territory, and I doubt the Steelers ever win about Super Bowl with him as HC.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:18 pm

Uh....I don’t see Tomlin sniffing a SB game

Fucking guy can’t win a playoff game let alone make a playoff run

Box of rocks can out-scheme that clown

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Post by franco>madden » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:45 pm

Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
Believe me, Ice, that question has been looming large to me for some time now, but apparently it's embedded in our yinzer genetic code (why the hell else would I still care what the Pirates score is? :cry: :lol: )

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Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:48 pm

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... _top_pages

Yeah...I know it’s Madden, but tell me where he’s wrong.
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Post by Pabst » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:10 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you?
Because we won't be paying top dollar to a QB.

Since Ben was drafted in 2004, here is a full list of coach/QB combos that have more Super Bowl rings & appearances than Ben & Tomlin:

- Belichick & Brady

That's it.

Manning's 4 SB appearances (and 2 wins) have come with 3 different coaches on 2 different teams.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have one each. Russel Wilson has equaled Ben, but doesn't look like he'll reach the promised land anytime soon. Patrick Mahomes has equaled Ben, but let's see what he does now that he's taking up 20%+ of his team's cap.

Tomlin has his warts, and his postseason fuck ups have been well documented here. The issue I have is the standard being put forward is one that has only been achieved by the greatest QB in NFL history. If that is your expectation, then no shit you're going to be disappointed.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:12 pm

He was wrong in not being even more critical of our beloved dunce

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:13 pm

Jobu wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:48 pm
Yeah...I know it’s Madden, but tell me where he’s wrong.
Even the usual apologists and yes men at PPG are questioning this.

It's already absurd to extend a coach for 3 years when probably 31 other teams would have fired him. But when you already had him under contract for 2 years? That's when you start questioning the mental fitness of the head honcho.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:17 pm

He was wrong in not being even more critical of our beloved dunce

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:25 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:10 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you?
Because we won't be paying top dollar to a QB.

Since Ben was drafted in 2004, here is a full list of coach/QB combos that have more Super Bowl rings & appearances than Ben & Tomlin:

- Belichick & Brady

That's it.

Manning's 4 SB appearances (and 2 wins) have come with 3 different coaches on 2 different teams.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have one each. Russel Wilson has equaled Ben, but doesn't look like he'll reach the promised land anytime soon. Patrick Mahomes has equaled Ben, but let's see what he does now that he's taking up 20%+ of his team's cap.

Tomlin has his warts, and his postseason fuck ups have been well documented here. The issue I have is the standard being put forward is one that has only been achieved by the greatest QB in NFL history. If that is your expectation, then no shit you're going to be disappointed.
All fair, Pabst. But how many more seasons do we need in order to realize that Tomlin is not taking us back to the SB?

The Steelers have been wildly successful bc ownership does not shit itself and shit can the whole FO and coaching staff every five years.
But that does not mean that it is impossible to err by sticking with a coach for too long.
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Post by Ice » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:37 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:13 pm
Jobu wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:48 pm
Yeah...I know it’s Madden, but tell me where he’s wrong.
Even the usual apologists and yes men at PPG are questioning this.

It's already absurd to extend a coach for 3 years when probably 31 other teams would have fired him. But when you already had him under contract for 2 years? That's when you start questioning the mental fitness of the head honcho.
I don't think 31 other teams would have fired him. He won 12 games and a division title when most preseason pundits were looking at a 2nd of 3rd place finish, including many of the glass half empty crowd on Steelerfury. This after a pretty damn good coaching job the previous season when Ben was out.
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:02 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:10 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you?
Because we won't be paying top dollar to a QB.

Since Ben was drafted in 2004, here is a full list of coach/QB combos that have more Super Bowl rings & appearances than Ben & Tomlin:

- Belichick & Brady

That's it.

Manning's 4 SB appearances (and 2 wins) have come with 3 different coaches on 2 different teams.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have one each. Russel Wilson has equaled Ben, but doesn't look like he'll reach the promised land anytime soon. Patrick Mahomes has equaled Ben, but let's see what he does now that he's taking up 20%+ of his team's cap.

Tomlin has his warts, and his postseason fuck ups have been well documented here. The issue I have is the standard being put forward is one that has only been achieved by the greatest QB in NFL history. If that is your expectation, then no shit you're going to be disappointed.
I think you are giving one of Cowher's SB appearance (and only victory) to Tomlin.

If you correct for just Tomlin, then you would add Eli / TC.

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Post by Pabst » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:09 pm

zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:02 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:10 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you?
Because we won't be paying top dollar to a QB.

Since Ben was drafted in 2004, here is a full list of coach/QB combos that have more Super Bowl rings & appearances than Ben & Tomlin:

- Belichick & Brady

That's it.

Manning's 4 SB appearances (and 2 wins) have come with 3 different coaches on 2 different teams.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have one each. Russel Wilson has equaled Ben, but doesn't look like he'll reach the promised land anytime soon. Patrick Mahomes has equaled Ben, but let's see what he does now that he's taking up 20%+ of his team's cap.

Tomlin has his warts, and his postseason fuck ups have been well documented here. The issue I have is the standard being put forward is one that has only been achieved by the greatest QB in NFL history. If that is your expectation, then no shit you're going to be disappointed.
I think you are giving one of Cowher's SB appearance (and only victory) to Tomlin.

If you correct for just Tomlin, then you would add Eli / TC.
Apologies, forgot about Eli. I was going off of 2 SB appearances and 1 SB win for Tomlin. So Eli/TC equaled the number of appearances, but won both.

Side note on Eli - those two seasons ('07 and '11) were the only ones in his entire career where he won a playoff game.

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:16 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:09 pm
Side note on Eli - those two seasons ('07 and '11) were the only ones in his entire career where he won a playoff game.
Tomlin isn't much better. He has playoff wins in just 4 seasons, and that number would and should be just 3 if not for the tremendous generosity of the grossly incompetent Marvin Lewis and the Cincinnati Bungles.
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Post by COR-TEN » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:41 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:16 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:09 pm
Side note on Eli - those two seasons ('07 and '11) were the only ones in his entire career where he won a playoff game.
Tomlin isn't much better. He has playoff wins in just 4 seasons, and that number would and should be just 3 if not for the tremendous generosity of the grossly incompetent Marvin Lewis and the Cincinnati Bungles.
And the jets, bills, and dolphins haven't been generous to the Pats?
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Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:52 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:41 pm
Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:16 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:09 pm
Side note on Eli - those two seasons ('07 and '11) were the only ones in his entire career where he won a playoff game.
Tomlin isn't much better. He has playoff wins in just 4 seasons, and that number would and should be just 3 if not for the tremendous generosity of the grossly incompetent Marvin Lewis and the Cincinnati Bungles.
And the jets, bills, and dolphins haven't been generous to the Pats?
Ummm...he’s talking about the Burfict meltdown playoff gift.
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Post by COR-TEN » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:03 pm

Jobu wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:52 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:41 pm
Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:16 pm


Tomlin isn't much better. He has playoff wins in just 4 seasons, and that number would and should be just 3 if not for the tremendous generosity of the grossly incompetent Marvin Lewis and the Cincinnati Bungles.
And the jets, bills, and dolphins haven't been generous to the Pats?
Ummm...he’s talking about the Burfict meltdown playoff gift.
Ahh. Ok. Never mind then.
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Post by El Kabong » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:10 am

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:58 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:59 am
Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:30 am
Definitely understand the angst, but giving up hope on 2021, let alone '22 and '23 before I've even seen the draft... just can't do it. I mean, what'd even be the point of following?
The anxiety seems to be that if you do squat with Ben for 10 years, why will the draft do anything for you? (If you can't win more with that guy in his prime, you're not winning more with anyone else, either.)

The Jax defensive collapse was the last straw for me. Even minus Shazier and plus some dregs off the street, the inability to adjust to put up any kind of resistance....wash rinse repeat.

I can understand that. I think it was the only playoff game in which the Steelers had Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant all on the field. The defense had its usual post-season choke job, but the Jags were a bad match-up for our D that year even with Shazier. Then losing Shazier ripped out their hearts. I don't understand why the Steelers seemed to be looking ahead and not taking the Jags seriously when the Jags had already beaten them earlier in the year.

For me, the last straw was the 2018 collapse. That slow-motion trainwreck highlighted every weakness and shortcoming in Tomlin's repertoire.
We were very weak against the run and drew a team that ran the ball very well. Worst possible matchup. Ironically enough, we were better equipped to handle the Pats that year.
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Post by El Kabong » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:12 am

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:15 am
steelmann58 wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:40 am
Wait till Ben leaves we see what the genius does
And here's the thing about 2019 - won 3 or 4 with Mason, and then defenses had enough film and adjusted. The offense went from awful to invisible. Then in comes Duck, and they win like 4 games until defenses get enough film and adjust. The offense went from awful back to invisible.

Now those two are terrible. But the idea that Tomlin is going to squeeze out 8 wins with the typical NFL mediocre QB is a pipe dream. Unless he does something novel where he keeps changing QB's after 4 or 5 games.

This has been a pattern for several years now, with and without Ben, and on both sides of the ball. The team peaks/plateaus in November and then that's it. No answers.
But Tomlin's had a number of different OC's and DC's. Don't coordinators make adjustments throughout the season on their own without specific instruction from their HC? Or are you saying Tomlin specifically tells his coordinators not to make adjustments?
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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:15 am

Wait...are we assuming Tomlin knows about the need to make adjustments?

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Post by Kodiak » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:44 am

El Kabong wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:12 am
But Tomlin's had a number of different OC's and DC's. Don't coordinators make adjustments throughout the season on their own without specific instruction from their HC?
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