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Slight difference between Rodgers and Love... Rodgers fell into the Pack's lap. They traded picks to move up and get Love. After an NFCCG appearance.
Not going to say much about Rodgers' family drama, because it's neither here nor there, but it's not anywhere near all on him.
That said, yeah, wow, our WR likes Tiktok and hair dye, apparently (anime enthusiast thing?) and our JAG former left tackle is also a jagoff... could be a lot worse from a team drama perspective.
Gonna be two fun games of Rodgers and that receiver corps in Denver vs. Mahomes and the Chefs for the next few years.
Not going to say much about Rodgers' family drama, because it's neither here nor there, but it's not anywhere near all on him.
That said, yeah, wow, our WR likes Tiktok and hair dye, apparently (anime enthusiast thing?) and our JAG former left tackle is also a jagoff... could be a lot worse from a team drama perspective.
Gonna be two fun games of Rodgers and that receiver corps in Denver vs. Mahomes and the Chefs for the next few years.
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They lucked out and he fell to them. He was potentially going #1 overall then kept sliding down the draft board. They could of just as easily ended up with Alex Smith in the mid 20's and had shit to show for it other than some winning seasons. Pittsburgh would probably have a 7th Lombardi.
Off-hand thought... Brady didn't want to be in the same conference as Mahomes. Rodgers listed two teams in Mahomes' division. Dude is not scared. AFC West about to be the best QB division in the league for a while.
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Then again Tampa blew up their team and put it back together in the offseason and won a Super Bowl. Maybe the Steelers really do need an enema.Ice wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:51 pmSome perspective: while we're worried about the culture of our team because of what some barely above replacement level JAG has to say about Juju and Decastro after we didn't even bother to try to re-sign him, first ballot HOFer and reigning MVP Aaron Rogers is literally imploding the Packers franchise. Could be just a tiny bit worse, folks.LakecrestSteeler wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 9:55 pmYes. And that is probably the whole problem. No Tom Brady or Jordan type that is an asshole/bully type that backs it up with victories and work ethic.
Everyone seems to toe the line when Brady is around or he will laser death stare you.
We do not get that from Ben and we don’t get it from anyone on defense.
What did we do to ensure we will be able to beat Buffalo and KC? This is where B2B’s argument about drafting the middle of the field phenom instead of the RB really makes sense.
Our strategy is to hope… hope Bush is back to normal. Hope injuries don’t plague us again on D. Hope a comprehensive offensive philosophy can bail the D out enough against Buffalo or KC.
Is hope a strategy?
And what ever works for the KC and Buffalo bugaboo will help with AFC North too.
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In no way, would I suggests serving in the military exempts an individual from being a jerk.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:46 pmServing in the armed forces at great personal risk doesn’t not exempt you in any way form being an A Hole, trust me.
I also think you can respect the service and think a get is personally misguided. A wide range of opinions on this subject is not o be expected.
In fact, I would frequently watch the interactions of other steelers with Big Al, and never seemed to see the same level of enthusiasm and affinity for him that was exhibited by/between other members.
It is entirely possible, if not probable, that he is a bit of a dick. He's west point educated and a military officer. I'm sure he struggles dealing with a lot of the juvenile bullshit that goes on in the locker room; both between the players and coaches.
That doesn't preclude all I mentioned, regarding his earned right and duty, to honor his fellow soldiers.
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No one should care about what AV said going out the door because when its all said and done- he was done. If the Ravens are going to pay him to underperform at RT then who are we to care? Ask yourself who does more damage as a Raven JuJu or AV?
AV a villain? Hardly he reminds me of every Spanish girl I've dated.
As soon as it's over she starts talking shit to her friends talking about how "pequeno" things are or how "malo" things smell or how I'm "barato" or how her replacement is a "puta". When it's all the same bullshit she said about her last man. So one could assume she has a problem picking men or its her raggedly ass.
She does this because then she doesn't have to worry about her friends hooking up with me (thus making her a liar) or have explain to them that the break up happened for specific reasons. Like that she's shit for run blocking or how she got bull rushed so frequently that she needed more help that should have. Admittedly she was great for a time but now she has to go and do her own thing- and we are all better for it. There wasn't a bidding war for her services so her issues were clear. Meaning the hommies and eses weren't lining up for her (ahem him) after he was let go.
You have to tip your cap if the Ravens can fix his run game issues. They will do something that even the great Mike Munchek couldn't do.
AV a villain? Hardly he reminds me of every Spanish girl I've dated.
As soon as it's over she starts talking shit to her friends talking about how "pequeno" things are or how "malo" things smell or how I'm "barato" or how her replacement is a "puta". When it's all the same bullshit she said about her last man. So one could assume she has a problem picking men or its her raggedly ass.
She does this because then she doesn't have to worry about her friends hooking up with me (thus making her a liar) or have explain to them that the break up happened for specific reasons. Like that she's shit for run blocking or how she got bull rushed so frequently that she needed more help that should have. Admittedly she was great for a time but now she has to go and do her own thing- and we are all better for it. There wasn't a bidding war for her services so her issues were clear. Meaning the hommies and eses weren't lining up for her (ahem him) after he was let go.
You have to tip your cap if the Ravens can fix his run game issues. They will do something that even the great Mike Munchek couldn't do.
I don’t...I really don’t, but the sad story is that he’s just another in a long line of ex-Steelers taking subtle shots on their way out. Is there something there that we don’t or won’t see?No one should care about what AV said going out the door...
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I'm actually softening my stance on Al's "exit interview". I think a lot of it was tongue in cheek and I said before the offseason, that Al really hadn't gotten much of a payday with his first deal, so I don't begrudge him taking another contract and having some fun with it. Whether he was a good teammate or not. And the Banner comment probably offers more insight than most––I trust the OL guys to be the barometer of the team.
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I just said something similar yesterday. I bet he has a hard time dealing with being in the NFL. I suspect he is trying to get the pay day for doing his real life’s work.anpsteel wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:40 amIn no way, would I suggests serving in the military exempts an individual from being a jerk.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:46 pmServing in the armed forces at great personal risk doesn’t not exempt you in any way form being an A Hole, trust me.
I also think you can respect the service and think a get is personally misguided. A wide range of opinions on this subject is not o be expected.
In fact, I would frequently watch the interactions of other steelers with Big Al, and never seemed to see the same level of enthusiasm and affinity for him that was exhibited by/between other members.
It is entirely possible, if not probable, that he is a bit of a dick. He's west point educated and a military officer. I'm sure he struggles dealing with a lot of the juvenile bullshit that goes on in the locker room; both between the players and coaches.
That doesn't preclude all I mentioned, regarding his earned right and duty, to honor his fellow soldiers.
Nothing wrong with playing in the NFL obviously, but when you have the West Point branding, served honorably as an officer, has looks and things have come relatively easy for him; he has to be contemplating his station in life. That type of pedigree can often spell Senator or President for many aspiring politicians….and here he is dicking around in the NFL.
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I think long line is bordering on hyperbole. I know its not popular to say it on this website, but guys like being coached by Tomlin. They appreciate the way the he and the FO do business in their honesty regarding their status and commitment to culture. Yeah, A lot of times there is a lot of shit said out the door but in hindsight after they've seen other franchises they realize being a Steeler was the highlight. Mike Wallace being the most recent.Jobu wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:08 pmI don’t...I really don’t, but the sad story is that he’s just another in a long line of ex-Steelers taking subtle shots on their way out. Is there something there that we don’t or won’t see?No one should care about what AV said going out the door...
Naaa...couldn’t be. Greatest sports franchise on the planet. Everyone wants to play here...until they don’t...
In AV's case he wasn't going to play any more. If the Ravens don't come calling he's getting on with his life's work. So what's the best way to endear yourself to a rival- talk about how you're glad you're there and you didn't really like being where you were. Classic heel turn. The only thing missing is a Hogan beard.
He's a Raisin now. It's easier to dislike their players than to kind of like them. Hate having to root against JK.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:47 pmI'm actually softening my stance on Al's "exit interview". I think a lot of it was tongue in cheek and I said before the offseason, that Al really hadn't gotten much of a payday with his first deal, so I don't begrudge him taking another contract and having some fun with it. Whether he was a good teammate or not. And the Banner comment probably offers more insight than most––I trust the OL guys to be the barometer of the team.
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Fair enough...VeritasSteel wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:10 pmI think long line is bordering on hyperbole. I know its not popular to say it on this website, but guys like being coached by Tomlin. They appreciate the way the he and the FO do business in their honesty regarding their status and commitment to culture. Yeah, A lot of times there is a lot of shit said out the door but in hindsight after they've seen other franchises they realize being a Steeler was the highlight. Mike Wallace being the most recent.Jobu wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:08 pmI don’t...I really don’t, but the sad story is that he’s just another in a long line of ex-Steelers taking subtle shots on their way out. Is there something there that we don’t or won’t see?No one should care about what AV said going out the door...
Naaa...couldn’t be. Greatest sports franchise on the planet. Everyone wants to play here...until they don’t...
In AV's case he wasn't going to play any more. If the Ravens don't come calling he's getting on with his life's work. So what's the best way to endear yourself to a rival- talk about how you're glad you're there and you didn't really like being where you were. Classic heel turn. The only thing missing is a Hogan beard.
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If you listen to him actually saying the words, he wasn't taking a shot a Juju. They play the clip at the end. This is the media trying to make something out of nothing.
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Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”
I can't believe this is a "thing." Every year the offseason gets dumber and dumber. Media searching for controversy. AV was told he wasn't going to play for the steelers, so he left. He went to the ravens. Does anybody know of other teams interested in his "service?"(pun intended). If not, take the first offer. And it's a respected organization willing to fork over millions. Everybody here would take that deal if they were him. Especially considering his level of play recently.
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Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
It doesn’t matter to me how Green Bay ended up with Rodgers or if they lucked out getting him. Hell we lucked out in 2004 when Roethlisberger made it to #11. He obviously ended up better than both Rivers and Eli and will be a Hall of Famer.stillthere wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:19 amThey lucked out and he fell to them. He was potentially going #1 overall then kept sliding down the draft board. They could of just as easily ended up with Alex Smith in the mid 20's and had shit to show for it other than some winning seasons. Pittsburgh would probably have a 7th Lombardi.
I understand planning for the future but when they drafted Love, Green Bay was knocking on the doorstep of another championship and Rodgers was showing zero signs of slowing down. If anything, he was getting better and better.
Obviously Rodgers was never going to be scared of competition for his job. There is a .0001% chance Jordan Love will end up a better player than Rodgers but when you are on the cusp of another championship and you take another QB in the first fucking round?
Again, I don’t blame Rodgers for being finished with that GM one bit. I hope he pulls a “him or me” power play.
That would be interesting.
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Rodgers had a season that could easily have been viewed as the beginning of a decline—a down year for him. He was 36 going on 37. Drafting a QB to develop in the same way he was makes total sense.
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Weren't they coming off an NFC Championship game appearance? Wasn't Rodgers constantly bitching that his receivers (other than Adams) weren't good enough? He was still coming off a 4,000 yard passing season, with 26 TD's and only 4 picks.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 6:37 pmRodgers had a season that could easily have been viewed as the beginning of a decline—a down year for him. He was 36 going on 37. Drafting a QB to develop in the same way he was makes total sense.
Dude probably believed those numbers could have been better with another receiver, but I guess Gutekunst had other ideas.
Bet that GM is wishing he went with the WR now.
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I see where B2B is coming from:
The 2019 Packers were a lot like the 2016 Steelers - No where near as good as their record would indicate. Lots of close wins over crap opponents: They needed a pair of 4th quarter comebacks to beat Detroit (who was fucking awful in 2019) and they got shellacked by a bad Chargers team. Both times they played San Fran that season they got destroyed. (Mahomes was injured for the KC/GB game that season, btw).
Rogers' yards/game, TDs, and QB ratings were just about the worst of his career. When you look at his stats, he had been on a steady decline for about 5 or 6 years at that point: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... dgAa00.htm
Now....the Packers were dead wrong in their assessment, but there was definitely something to it, and it's obvious they handled the situation poorly.
Also, 4,000 yards in a season really doesn't mean much anymore. That won't even put you in the top 10.
The 2019 Packers were a lot like the 2016 Steelers - No where near as good as their record would indicate. Lots of close wins over crap opponents: They needed a pair of 4th quarter comebacks to beat Detroit (who was fucking awful in 2019) and they got shellacked by a bad Chargers team. Both times they played San Fran that season they got destroyed. (Mahomes was injured for the KC/GB game that season, btw).
Rogers' yards/game, TDs, and QB ratings were just about the worst of his career. When you look at his stats, he had been on a steady decline for about 5 or 6 years at that point: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... dgAa00.htm
Now....the Packers were dead wrong in their assessment, but there was definitely something to it, and it's obvious they handled the situation poorly.
Also, 4,000 yards in a season really doesn't mean much anymore. That won't even put you in the top 10.
Fair enough about Rodgers personal numbers, but you also have to account that Rodgers for the past several years, had been openly bitching about not having enough offensive skill position talent for the Packers to be serious Super Bowl contenders.Pabst wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:03 pmI see where B2B is coming from:
The 2019 Packers were a lot like the 2016 Steelers - No where near as good as their record would indicate. Lots of close wins over crap opponents: They needed a pair of 4th quarter comebacks to beat Detroit (who was fucking awful in 2019) and they got shellacked by a bad Chargers team. Both times they played San Fran that season they got destroyed. (Mahomes was injured for the KC/GB game that season, btw).
Rogers' yards/game, TDs, and QB ratings were just about the worst of his career. When you look at his stats, he had been on a steady decline for about 5 or 6 years at that point: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... dgAa00.htm
Now....the Packers were dead wrong in their assessment, but there was definitely something to it, and it's obvious they handled the situation poorly.
Also, 4,000 yards in a season really doesn't mean much anymore. That won't even put you in the top 10.
Well now Adams is great (arguably the best WR in football), Tonyan has emerged as a big-time weapon and Aaron Jones is probably a top 3 RB.
Maybe it isn't a coincidence Rodgers' numbers have exploded since?
....but instead of possibly sealing the deal with one more elite receiver, Gutekunst takes.....a QB.
Also, those losses to San Fran had absolutely nothing to do with Rodgers. Those might have been the only times I ever saw Rodgers close to giving up during a game.
He had ZERO time and that Niners pass rush looked like the fucking Fearsome Foursome. Never saw him under more pressure or get hit more than those 2 San Fran games that year.
But back to back 13-3 seasons don't lie. Not in my book and divisional battles are always tough, no matter how bad some teams are.
Hell, Cleveland used to beat Baltimore even when they were at their worst. Miami always gave Brady's Patriots trouble like few teams ever could.
I now pretty much believe the Packers' GM secretly wants to move on from Rodgers. Obviously it's a brainless move, but some executives have to try and show everybody how smart they are.
Gutekunst is doing this, on the down low and holy motherfucker is it going to backfire.
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Oh for gods sake. He knows those are two landing spots that would be willing to make a deal for him, and he is willing to live. It has zero to do with Mahomes. GB likely wont trade him within the conference.
Also, the fact that he wants out of GB is pretty indicative that he isnt leaving because he is hungry for a championship.
Fuck man. You need to talk to someone professional.VeritasSteel wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 amNo one should care about what AV said going out the door because when its all said and done- he was done. If the Ravens are going to pay him to underperform at RT then who are we to care? Ask yourself who does more damage as a Raven JuJu or AV?
AV a villain? Hardly he reminds me of every Spanish girl I've dated.
As soon as it's over she starts talking shit to her friends talking about how "pequeno" things are or how "malo" things smell or how I'm "barato" or how her replacement is a "puta". When it's all the same bullshit she said about her last man. So one could assume she has a problem picking men or its her raggedly ass.
She does this because then she doesn't have to worry about her friends hooking up with me (thus making her a liar) or have explain to them that the break up happened for specific reasons. Like that she's shit for run blocking or how she got bull rushed so frequently that she needed more help that should have. Admittedly she was great for a time but now she has to go and do her own thing- and we are all better for it. There wasn't a bidding war for her services so her issues were clear. Meaning the hommies and eses weren't lining up for her (ahem him) after he was let go.
You have to tip your cap if the Ravens can fix his run game issues. They will do something that even the great Mike Munchek couldn't do.
I mean, Green Bay as a franchise is about as ham n egger as it gets, and Aaron Rodgers is pretty much the polar opposite of a ham n egger, so I totally understand your stance here, and on Rodgers in general, but do you really think trading up to draft a backup QB in the first round, then drafting, well, a bunch of ham n eggers who add nothing dynamic on offense one year, and then getting rid of a very good center the next, while you have a HOF caliber QB and are in a championship, win now window is indicative of a team that's hungry to win a championship?R_S wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:41 amOh for gods sake. He knows those are two landing spots that would be willing to make a deal for him, and he is willing to live. It has zero to do with Mahomes. GB likely wont trade him within the conference.
Also, the fact that he wants out of GB is pretty indicative that he isnt leaving because he is hungry for a championship.
If so, you're dumber than Green Bay's GM.
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Isn't his old lady from Boulder? So that would be convenient for family visits from Denver or Las Vegas.R_S wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:41 amOh for gods sake. He knows those are two landing spots that would be willing to make a deal for him, and he is willing to live. It has zero to do with Mahomes. GB likely wont trade him within the conference.
Also, the fact that he wants out of GB is pretty indicative that he isnt leaving because he is hungry for a championship.
They didnt have the #1 offense and the top seed in the NFC because the GM and head coach sucked. If Aaron could have led them on one scoring drive in the 4th quarter out of 3 opportunities (two of which were 3 and out) theyd have been in the Super Bowl.
Roger is not on the level of Brady, Montana, Bradshaw because he has been very iffy in the big spot.
Roger is not on the level of Brady, Montana, Bradshaw because he has been very iffy in the big spot.
What difference does that make? The guy changes women as often as he changes his drawers.Isn't his old lady from Boulder? So that would be convenient for family visits from Denver or Las Vegas.
Fuck Aaron Rodgers...the guys a little bitch. He got his head coach fired, now he wants to get his GM fired. All the while, the guy hasn’t won jack shit in over a decade...sound familiar Steeler s Nation? All the guy does is point fingers, never takes responsibility for his many failures. Like Bradshaw says, he’s a weak ass pussy. The guys about as unclutch as one can get.
But, at least he has Pat McAfee’s lips permanently Gorilla glued to his ass...so he has that going for him.
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No. Born and raised in CA it appears. She probably isnt looking forward to leaving LA for sluggin beers at Max Mcgee's in sub zero temps.stillthere wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:53 amIsn't his old lady from Boulder? So that would be convenient for family visits from Denver or Las Vegas.R_S wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:41 amOh for gods sake. He knows those are two landing spots that would be willing to make a deal for him, and he is willing to live. It has zero to do with Mahomes. GB likely wont trade him within the conference.
Also, the fact that he wants out of GB is pretty indicative that he isnt leaving because he is hungry for a championship.
They had the number one offense because they had the LEAGUE MVP and a FIRST BALLOT HOFer AT QB. Aside from Adams, he's made chicken salad out of chicken shit his entire career at WR. Montana had Taylor and Rice... only THE BEST WR EVER and a great complimentary piece, and Bradshaw had NOT ONE BUT TWO HOF WRs in Swann and Stallworth. I mean, I get it, you hate Rodgers, but you sound like you're taking crazy pills here, RS. Comparing QBs and teams from pre-salary cap, when you could surround them with an all star team for their whole career if you wanted (and the Niners and Steelers definitely did) to QBs from the salary cap era is also pretty apples and oranges.
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