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Re: Roquan Smith

Post by RemoAZ » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:18 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:06 pm
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Yeah that was pretty bad. Sorry but their QB definitely is crying about his WRs. Would be nice to capitalize on that. Would take a #1 too at least. Then I saw this on Twitter. Yikes.
https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/statu ... 4770252800


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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:33 pm

jewelsongs wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:50 am
After watching tonight's game, I double down on getting Smith. We have receivers 9 deep. Give the Bears Claypool, Bush and our first rounder next year. This guy would fix our remaining issue on D.
You might be on to something, but I'd at least like to see that repeated in Preseason #2.

It does seem like maybe they have the depth at receiver to make a move that improves the team. I do think they have options at 3rd receiver with DJ and Pickens looking to have 1 & 2 locked down. But I haven't seen enough to declare Claypool expendable.

PIT probably won't be a playoff team, so we have plenty of time before the trade deadline Nov. 1st. All this should sort itself out by then. If others step up, trading DJ could be an option PLUS that would create a decent chunk of cap space. Claypool is actually on his rookie deal thru 2023, and even if he doesn't improve he's probably solid as a #3.
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Post by steelclan » Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:46 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:18 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:06 pm
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Yeah that was pretty bad. Sorry but their QB definitely is crying about his WRs. Would be nice to capitalize on that. Would take a #1 too at least. Then I saw this on Twitter. Yikes.
https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/statu ... 4770252800
Wow that is worse than Larry Foote his rookie year v the Saints. ILB outside of Jack looks a mess.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm

Bush has to be the biggest bust in Steelers history

And I say that because of the draft capital given up to move up to grab him

Jesus Christ that video sickens me

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Post by Deebo » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:07 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm


Jesus Christ that video sickens me
I've seen people try to defend him saying "well #50 caused Bush to screw up"

While Bush isn't responsible for that run getting the original 5 yards, he exacerbated the problem by not attacking and therefore having a 5 yard run turn into 15.

What a pathetic display of linebacking

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Post by Ice » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:02 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Bush has to be the biggest bust in Steelers history

And I say that because of the draft capital given up to move up to grab him

Jesus Christ that video sickens me
The "biggest" bust in Steelers history is, and always will be, Jamain Stephens.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:09 pm

Ice wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:02 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Bush has to be the biggest bust in Steelers history

And I say that because of the draft capital given up to move up to grab him

Jesus Christ that video sickens me
The "biggest" bust in Steelers history is, and always will be, Jamain Stephens.
Respectfully disagree

We didn’t give up shit to get that load Stephens

“Denver received Pittsburgh's 2019 first- and second-round picks (Nos. 20 and 52) and a 2020 third-round pick.”

Cmon man! (in my best Joe Biden voice)

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Post by 955876 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:09 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Bush has to be the biggest bust in Steelers history

And I say that because of the draft capital given up to move up to grab him

Jesus Christ that video sickens me
That’s what happens when your head coach has bbq and beers with the uncle.

And agreed, if not the worst pick he’s one of the worst.

He flat out stinks. Plays like a fucking pussy.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:10 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:07 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm


Jesus Christ that video sickens me
I've seen people try to defend him saying "well #50 caused Bush to screw up"

While Bush isn't responsible for that run getting the original 5 yards, he exacerbated the problem by not attacking and therefore having a 5 yard run turn into 15.

What a pathetic display of linebacking
He had 0.0 tackles in Seattle game

Blutarsky

Wtf

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:25 pm

he needs to go we need again to find a ILB

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Post by Ice » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:41 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:09 pm
Ice wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:02 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Bush has to be the biggest bust in Steelers history

And I say that because of the draft capital given up to move up to grab him

Jesus Christ that video sickens me
The "biggest" bust in Steelers history is, and always will be, Jamain Stephens.
Respectfully disagree

We didn’t give up shit to get that load Stephens

“Denver received Pittsburgh's 2019 first- and second-round picks (Nos. 20 and 52) and a 2020 third-round pick.”

Cmon man! (in my best Joe Biden voice)
Stephens pretty famously showed up at training camp weighing 400 pounds, failed the Cowher conditioning test, and had a visit from the Turk the next morning. Hence "biggest."
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Post by franco32 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:49 pm

I'm not sure why you all are shocked and surprised at that Seattle play. I saw about 80 of those types of plays last year from him. It's more than just slow to react. He's just going through the motions to collect a paycheck. It's almost like weekend flag football from 40 year olds.

I knew it was more than just the knee. He simply lacks the hunger and heart to play the game right now. He should have pulled a Tuitt at this point. It's a massive problem. He makes Sean Spence on one leg look like a pro-bowler.

With UG3 done and Bush checked out, we have some real problems in the middle there. Jack can't do everything himself. Gotta hope Spillane can be good enough and we can minimize his damage in coverage situations.

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Post by Ice » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:32 am

Between Minkah, Kazee and Norwegian Wood, we have some interesting coverage options at safety. Let Jack and Spillane play downhill at ILB and figure it out behind them. Probably the best option at this point. Norwood made some plays last night, and last season. Nice late round pickup.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:50 am

Ice wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:41 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:09 pm
Ice wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:02 pm


The "biggest" bust in Steelers history is, and always will be, Jamain Stephens.
Respectfully disagree

We didn’t give up shit to get that load Stephens

“Denver received Pittsburgh's 2019 first- and second-round picks (Nos. 20 and 52) and a 2020 third-round pick.”

Cmon man! (in my best Joe Biden voice)
Stephens pretty famously showed up at training camp weighing 400 pounds, failed the Cowher conditioning test, and had a visit from the Turk the next morning. Hence "biggest."
Ah gotcha

Biggest physically

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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:51 am

franco32 wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:49 pm
I'm not sure why you all are shocked and surprised at that Seattle play. I saw about 80 of those types of plays last year from him. It's more than just slow to react. He's just going through the motions to collect a paycheck. It's almost like weekend flag football from 40 year olds.

I knew it was more than just the knee. He simply lacks the hunger and heart to play the game right now. He should have pulled a Tuitt at this point. It's a massive problem. He makes Sean Spence on one leg look like a pro-bowler.

With UG3 done and Bush checked out, we have some real problems in the middle there. Jack can't do everything himself. Gotta hope Spillane can be good enough and we can minimize his damage in coverage situations.
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Post by Steelersfan » Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:11 am

Our BIGGEST need for the last 2 or 3 seasons. Is still our BIGGEST need today. ILB needs 2 bodies before game #1. Outside of Jack. Bush isn't going to be servicable. He just isn't. That miracle is not going to happen. Spillane was very close to being just as bad Saturday. And in coverage, might be just as bad. Buddy, I don't see it either. No sparks or flashes to his game. I had hopes for him, but NO. We are in trouble at starter AND depth. If Jack misses A SNAP, we are sunk. It will be over.

Keep Jack and Robinson (as #3 or 4). Hope Robinson gains two years experience in 2 pre season games. And go sign 3 new ILB bodies and hope 1 or 2 can play servicable. We are a hamstring away from disaster.
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Post by RemoAZ » Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:23 am

Yeah that play in the Tweet I posted above is more than just bad. It's like just enough effort to not get fined. He should be embarrassed. You're getting paid to play a game and that's the best you can bring to the field? Pathetic. I would hope the leaders on this team like Cam have something to say in private when they look at his effort on film if the coaches don't. That kind of performance can't be acceptable to someone. How about Flores? I can't believe he will let that slide.
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Post by Steelersfan » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:09 am

I agree and the ACL injury excuse is over. Shit or get off the pot. Time for Omar to make a statement.

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Post by jewelsongs » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:19 am

What about Atlanta LB Deion Jones? He is coming off surgery, but is signed for 2 more years.

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Post by COR-TEN » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:57 pm

When Ramone Foster talked about Conner Heyward in that video someone posted, he said that the steelers organization doesn't give a pass to players that have some connection with the franchise. He said you have to "Earn your spot on the team" and that nothing is handed out for free.

It makes me wonder. Most here think Bush won't be cut because he has connections to tomlin. But that would be contrary to what an actual player that played for the steelers for eleven years said. It's obvious Bush is inferior - for whatever reason.

The fact that they didn't pick up his 5th year option tells me the steelers don't think it's worth it and he might actually be cut. If he isn't then it's about depth and the ability to acquire his replacement, not because his family is buddy buddy with tomlin. /shrug
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Post by Deebo » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:06 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:57 pm
When Ramone Foster talked about Conner Heyward in that video someone posted, he said that the steelers organization doesn't give a pass to players that have some connection with the franchise. He said you have to "Earn your spot on the team" and that nothing is handed out for free.

Outside of someone like James Harrison (who comes across as a guy who gives no fucks), when is the last time you heard former players criticize ANYONE?
Ramon speaks up and he's blacklisted from future Steeler event invites and potential job opportunities with the team and by proxy, the NFL.

So no, I don't believe there's no nepotism, fraternalism or whatever-ism with the Steelers. It happens with every team and every league and in most corporations.
Just be honest with it and say "yea I hired this person (or drafted him in this case) because we were familiar with the bloodlines"

People may not like it, but they can at least respect the honesty.

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Post by Jams » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:20 am

Wow, just cut him or find someone who thinks they can save him for a mid rounder.


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Post by Deebo » Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm

Usually the comments are a train wreck, but couldn't agree more with this person:

randomcommenter says:
August 16, 2022 at 11:24 pm
Bush was terrible before his injury, terrible last year coming back from injury and in terrible in the first preseason game where he gave up multiple long runs by biting on fakes and leaving his gap.

His response is that he doesn’t care if the steelers let him go because some other sucker will pay him. Very inspiring.

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Post by Jobu » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:06 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm
Usually the comments are a train wreck, but couldn't agree more with this person:

randomcommenter says:
August 16, 2022 at 11:24 pm
Bush was terrible before his injury, terrible last year coming back from injury and in terrible in the first preseason game where he gave up multiple long runs by biting on fakes and leaving his gap.

His response is that he doesn’t care if the steelers let him go because some other sucker will pay him. Very inspiring.
And then there was the guy that repeatedly refereed to Bush as a “great” player…

charliecharger says:
August 16, 2022 at 10:42 pm
Bush has no reason to worry, so he’s not worrying. He’s just like any other great NFL player. They need to stay healthy. There’s no guarantee anyone will stay healthy. Great players get paid, so Bush will get his money. He could play another ten years. There are 31 other teams, if Pittsburgh doesn’t want him, but Pittsburgh hasn’t made a habit of getting rid of great players.
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Post by 955876 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:27 pm

That idiot wouldn’t survive here as a poster.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:45 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:27 pm
That idiot wouldn’t survive here as a poster.
We need to bring back the public stonings of our worst posters

I miss those

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Post by Deebo » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:31 pm

Jobu wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:06 pm
Deebo wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm
Usually the comments are a train wreck, but couldn't agree more with this person:

randomcommenter says:
August 16, 2022 at 11:24 pm
Bush was terrible before his injury, terrible last year coming back from injury and in terrible in the first preseason game where he gave up multiple long runs by biting on fakes and leaving his gap.

His response is that he doesn’t care if the steelers let him go because some other sucker will pay him. Very inspiring.
And then there was the guy that repeatedly refereed to Bush as a “great” player…

charliecharger says:
August 16, 2022 at 10:42 pm
Bush has no reason to worry, so he’s not worrying. He’s just like any other great NFL player. They need to stay healthy. There’s no guarantee anyone will stay healthy. Great players get paid, so Bush will get his money. He could play another ten years. There are 31 other teams, if Pittsburgh doesn’t want him, but Pittsburgh hasn’t made a habit of getting rid of great players.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That was probably Derrick Brooks

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