Terrell Edmunds is outta here

[Korey39]

https://twitter.com/rell_island6/status ... 32705?s=20

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[DP39]

It appears that our FO has finally seen/admitted/concluded what I've been saying about Edmunds for some time now. He's okay, but nothing special. As of now, based on him not signing elsewhere, it seems his services are not in very high demand.

This GIF is how I've always felt when it came to Edmunds' play , and hopefully we finally upgrade the position (for Minkah's sake)....

[the-other-burg]

Another example of a highly rated defensive back that was ruined by our coaching staff. All DB's should be gotten via trade,

[LakecrestSteeler]

They are cutting him? Or he has signed elsewhere?

[Pabst]

They are cutting him? Or he has signed elsewhere?

He's a UFA, so presumably the latter.

[sinceiwas4]

he's never been nor was he ever going to be a superstar, but he was definitely solid and seemed to actually improve every year. the thing is Tomlins wrinkle that hes been trying to install for a cpl years, the 3 safety bit, helps protect poor coverage by the ilb group which we can assume we are still going to have based on the signings there. so the 3rd safety is a starter. we have Minkah and Kazee. whos the 3rd? are we going to draft a game one starter capable of better play than edmunds, or is this an admittance of not being a completed rebuild this yr at the safety position? and does this mean we will not be seeing the 3 safety set that Tomlin wants yet again this yr? and if not, can anybody cover the short middle?

[Stosh-67]

I will assume the Steelers told him they will not be re-signing him?
I do not see any other news saying he signed elsewhere?

[Pabst]

he's never been nor was he ever going to be a superstar, but he was definitely solid and seemed to actually improve every year. the thing is Tomlins wrinkle that hes been trying to install for a cpl years, the 3 safety bit, helps protect poor coverage by the ilb group which we can assume we are still going to have based on the signings there. so the 3rd safety is a starter. we have Minkah and Kazee. whos the 3rd? are we going to draft a game one starter capable of better play than edmunds, or is this an admittance of not being a completed rebuild this yr at the safety position? and does this mean we will not be seeing the 3 safety set that Tomlin wants yet again this yr? and if not, can anybody cover the short middle?

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

[bradshaw2ben]

he's never been nor was he ever going to be a superstar, but he was definitely solid and seemed to actually improve every year. the thing is Tomlins wrinkle that hes been trying to install for a cpl years, the 3 safety bit, helps protect poor coverage by the ilb group which we can assume we are still going to have based on the signings there. so the 3rd safety is a starter. we have Minkah and Kazee. whos the 3rd? are we going to draft a game one starter capable of better play than edmunds, or is this an admittance of not being a completed rebuild this yr at the safety position? and does this mean we will not be seeing the 3 safety set that Tomlin wants yet again this yr? and if not, can anybody cover the short middle?

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

There are? Taylor Rapp. The rumors of Kevin Byard being cut. I thought everybody else decent is off the board. Jonathan Owens, maybe?

[cop1211]

Increases Brian Branch in the first if Porter is gone.

Who would you go with at 17 if it comes down to:
Brian Branch
Brian Bresee
Dionte Banks

I’d go Branch, then Bresee, then Banks.

[bradshaw2ben]

I mean, Branch is Damonte Kazee, from a positional point of view. They're missing that box/split safety with some size and toughness who can cover.

They can't possibly go into the draft with no potential starter at SS.

[bradshaw2ben]

Increases Brian Branch in the first if Porter is gone.

Who would you go with at 17 if it comes down to:
Brian Branch
Brian Bresee
Dionte Banks

I’d go Branch, then Bresee, then Banks.

Sorry, I think all three are poor fits or bad bets. Branch is a slot guy. He's great and he upgrades you but do you want to invest 1.17 in a slot DB? Bresee is maddeningly inconsistent and as Perch put it, has an equal parts chance at all-pro or out of the league in 5 years. Banks is stiff as can be. He's jacked and straightline fast but he's not a 1st round pick to me.

[Stosh-67]

Another 1st round missed pick in Edmunds....

Are 1st round draft picks that do not see a big / nice contract #2 or even made an offer considered a bust?

Other than a 1st round pick being lights out and said team not being able to afford contract #2......

That is not the case with Edmunds.

How about 2nd round picks. If they do not get a contract #2?

So disappointing to not have 1st and 2nd round picks turn into long time starters.
Sets teams back for years.

A 1st round pick should be a 10 year starter ( 8 at minimum )
You are hopeful to land a HOF.
If not, a perennial All-Pro
If not a perennial pro-bowler.
At minimum a long time starter, that sees contract #2

Teams need to hit on their 1st two picks.....or at least go 50/50.

2022
1. Kenny
2. Pickens ( lets hope he does not lose his focus on football )

2021
1. Najee
2. Mooth
Both nice players, both over drafted? Neither may be an 8-10 year player.....if even 5-6

2020
1. None
2. Chase Claypool

2019
1. Devon Bush
2. None

2018
1. Terrell Edmunds
2. James Washington

2017
1. TJ Watt
2. JuJu

2016
1. Artie Burns
2. Sean Davis

2015
1. Bud Dupree
2. Senquez Golden

( 14 ) first and second round picks since 2015.

WOW, that's a lot of misses.

[sinceiwas4]

I mean, Branch is Damonte Kazee, from a positional point of view. They're missing that box/split safety with some size and toughness who can cover.

They can't possibly go into the draft with no potential starter at SS.

this is what im worried about, using kazee out of position and behind a poorly suited to coverage ilb group..yikes

[sinceiwas4]

and dont get me wrong i rly like Kazee as the 3rd guy.

[bradshaw2ben]

and dont get me wrong i rly like Kazee as the 3rd guy.

Yeah I think he's an upgrade over what Norwood was doing and some of what Sutton was doing. Nice chess piece.

And @Stosh-67 I don't think Edmunds is a bust at all. He was a solid player last few years. Not a superstar but not every 1st round pick should be expected to be.

[cop1211]

I think Branch would make a fine SS in today’s NFL.
You can get a SS/LB hybrid later or go with Simpson at 32, or a guy like Henley to make it work.

[DP39]

he's never been nor was he ever going to be a superstar, but he was definitely solid and seemed to actually improve every year. the thing is Tomlins wrinkle that hes been trying to install for a cpl years, the 3 safety bit, helps protect poor coverage by the ilb group which we can assume we are still going to have based on the signings there. so the 3rd safety is a starter. we have Minkah and Kazee. whos the 3rd? are we going to draft a game one starter capable of better play than edmunds, or is this an admittance of not being a completed rebuild this yr at the safety position? and does this mean we will not be seeing the 3 safety set that Tomlin wants yet again this yr? and if not, can anybody cover the short middle?

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

There are? Taylor Rapp. The rumors of Kevin Byard being cut. I thought everybody else decent is off the board. Jonathan Owens, maybe?

I hope/dream they're trying to pursue the guy I've been clamoring on here for, Ryan Neal, out of SEA. He's a RFA that got offered a ROFR contract, so he'd cost at least $2.627M(no draft picks though). I watched him play some last year and he was extremely good. I perfect fit next to Minkah and someone that would allow him to shine even more. SEA has like $43M+ in cap space tied up in 3 other safeties (with no cap outs). And that's before Neal's $2.6M tender. That's F'n bonkers, man. I'd think they'd be happy to let him go without putting up much of a fight (price-wise).

Neal takes great pursuit angles, flies around like crazy, and appears to be a very smart, ascending player. Kazee would be perfect in Tomlin's desired S3 role with Neal and Minkah out there with him, imo.

[sinceiwas4]

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

There are? Taylor Rapp. The rumors of Kevin Byard being cut. I thought everybody else decent is off the board. Jonathan Owens, maybe?

I hope/dream they're trying to pursue the guy I've been clamoring on here for, Ryan Neal, out of SEA. He's a RFA that got offered a ROFR contract, so he'd cost at least $2.627M(no draft picks though). I watched him play some last year and he was extremely good. I perfect fit next to Minkah and someone that would allow him to shine even more. SEA has like $43M+ in cap space tied up in 3 other safeties (with no cap outs). And that's before Neal's $2.6M tender. That's F'n bonkers, man. I'd think they'd be happy to let him go without putting up much of a fight (price-wise).

Neal takes great pursuit angles, flies around like crazy, and appears to be a very smart, ascending player. Kazee would be perfect in Tomlin's desired S3 role with Neal and Minkah out there with him, imo.

i dont know Neal but if he's what u say here that could at least give us a chance to save the season from being nothing but another rebuild year. this offense is never going to outscore an opposing offense that can use the slot at will.

[Pabst]

he's never been nor was he ever going to be a superstar, but he was definitely solid and seemed to actually improve every year. the thing is Tomlins wrinkle that hes been trying to install for a cpl years, the 3 safety bit, helps protect poor coverage by the ilb group which we can assume we are still going to have based on the signings there. so the 3rd safety is a starter. we have Minkah and Kazee. whos the 3rd? are we going to draft a game one starter capable of better play than edmunds, or is this an admittance of not being a completed rebuild this yr at the safety position? and does this mean we will not be seeing the 3 safety set that Tomlin wants yet again this yr? and if not, can anybody cover the short middle?

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

There are? Taylor Rapp. The rumors of Kevin Byard being cut. I thought everybody else decent is off the board. Jonathan Owens, maybe?

Taylor Rapp is the only big name, yes.

If you don't mind rolling the dice on a stop-gap guy, Adrian Amos, Rodney McLeod, John Johnson, Duron Harmon, and Logan Ryan are out there. Also, Seattle only slapped the lowest RFA tender on Ryan Neal, so he can be an option.

I was thinking more along the lines of "someone who can replace Edmunds" rather than an upgrade.

[Jobu]

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/.amp/ne ... ree-agency

The Pittsburgh Steelers will now have to replace Terrell Edmunds, who has told the team he is signing elsewhere in free agency, according to Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Gerry Dulac.

[bradshaw2ben]

There are still a few names out there in free agency.

Even if they do just go out and sign a one-year stop gap, it's not like Edmunds is irreplaceable. As DP said, he's fine but nothing special.

There are? Taylor Rapp. The rumors of Kevin Byard being cut. I thought everybody else decent is off the board. Jonathan Owens, maybe?

Taylor Rapp is the only big name, yes.

If you don't mind rolling the dice on a stop-gap guy, Adrian Amos, Rodney McLeod, John Johnson, Duron Harmon, and Logan Ryan are out there. Also, Seattle only slapped the lowest RFA tender on Ryan Neal, so he can be an option.

I was thinking more along the lines of "someone who can replace Edmunds" rather than an upgrade.

those dudes are pretty much all deep safety types, though. Ryan Neal is an interesting suggestion.

[Stosh-67]

and dont get me wrong i rly like Kazee as the 3rd guy.

Yeah I think he's an upgrade over what Norwood was doing and some of what Sutton was doing. Nice chess piece.

And @Stosh-67 I don't think Edmunds is a bust at all. He was a solid player last few years. Not a superstar but not every 1st round pick should be expected to be.

Hey B.

No, i cant say Edmunds was a bust.
Just did not live up to 1st round tag.

But I think alot of the discussion when he was drafted, was that he could have been had in the second round.
And was over drafted.

Seems like that could be the case / reason alot of the 1st / 2nd round picks since 2015 have been dissapointing.

[bradshaw2ben]

Love makes you do funny things. Steelers get all googly-eyed every draft season.

[yygy]

Sort of a big loss actually. Well if you wanted draft freedom and a good secondary.

Wasn’t the biggest Edmunds fan but he had his role. He learned how to cover tight ends, and could make some plays in the box and at the line.

As it stands, they practically have to double dip in the first 3 to 4 pics

[yygy]

Agree. Although I think Peterson also made it less likely to take Joey jr. Is he supposed to play slot?

Meanwhile yes Branch fills a major need and backs up nearly every position in the secondary…at a probable all pro level. He comes in and immediately starts in the slot. It’s interesting though it may push Kazee to more of a strong safety role, which would be fine for him.

Yeah I see huge value from Branch. Hoping he gets by Belicheck to us

[LakecrestSteeler]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

[Jobu]

Love makes you do funny things. Steelers get all googly-eyed every draft season.

This would be funny, if it wasn’t true…and sad!

[bradshaw2ben]

I bet we could get that 3rd Safety with a trade of one DJ the non WR#1!

Not the year to look for a DJ quality replacement in the draft.

[steelmann58]

Not Drafting Branch @17 I would go nuts