2023 Hindsight Draft

[tbsteel]

OK degenerates, with the amazing power of hindsight, who would you have picked at the Steelers selections? Gonna take a few swings:

1.14: Nolan Smith, LB
2.32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2.49: Sydney Brown, S
3.93: Dawand Jones, CT (custom toilet)
4.132: Darius Rush, CB
7.141: Corey Trice, CB
7.151: Ivan Pace Jr., LB

[SteelerDayTrader]

Broderick Jones
Joey Porter Jr
Keanu Benton
Darnell Washington
Izzy Abanikanda
Cory Trice
Lonnie Phelps

[Steelafan77]

Pick 14 Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR Ohio State
Pick 32 Keion White EDGE Georgia Tech
Pick 49 Cam Smith CB South Carolina
Pick 93 Cameron Young DT Mississippi State
Pick 132 Jaelyn Duncan OT Maryland
Pick 241 Anthony Johnson Jr. SAF Iowa State
Pick 251 Alex Forsyth OC Oregon

Must admit the Steelers actual draft is challenging to better….

I wouldn’t change anything they did, was more an exercise to add different players.

[Charles Demarr]

Broderick Jones
Joey Porter Jr
Keanu Benton
Darnell Washington
Izzy Abanikanda
Cory Trice
Lonnie Phelps

Exactly. I don't hate Herbig but I wanted Izzy in the 4th. Still need another RB to execute the ground and pound offense they are building.

[Mick]

Yeah, pretty much STD. If not allowed to pick same players,
1.17 FAU
2.32 Bergeron
2.49 Jalin Hyatt
3.80 Dorian Williams
4.120 Jaylon Jones
7.A can’t pretend i would ‘t have gone for trice in the 7th

[blu]

Broderick Jones
Joey Porter Jr
Keanu Benton
Darnell Washington
Izzy Abanikanda
Cory Trice
Lonnie Phelps

Exactly. I don't hate Herbig but I wanted Izzy in the 4th. Still need another RB to execute the ground and pound offense they are building.

I am wondering that if the Steelers could leave a team roster spot available so that they could snatch a decent 3rd rb from another team's practice roster after the final cuts.

[Steeldrama]

Dig me some Izzy.

If ever there was an offense that was in need of a home run hitter

Unfortunately, the whole score quickly concept goes against that whole attrition football philosophy thing

AND will always be trumped by nepotism

YOU SUCK, TOMLIDA!

[Ice]

I'd swap out Drew Sanders' shine loving self for Benton (just not sold), Izzy for Herbie (picked him almost absurdly high in the draft-a-team), and Isaiah Land for Spencer Anderson (covers for skipping Herb, and HBCUs criminally under-drafted this year, even though agreeing with Coach Prime is something that doesn't make me happy).

Really no problem with the rest, and hey, if the Wisconsin Two pan out, I'll happily eat my words on that, too. Really wanted Bananacanada, though.

[Korey39]

14. Christian Gonzalez CB Oregon
32. DJ Turner CB/Slot Michigan
49. Darnell Washington TE Georgia
93. Dawand Jones OT Ohio State
132. Karl Brooks DT/EDGE Bowling Green
241. Bryce Ford-Wheaton WR West Virginia
251. AJ Finley S Ole Miss

[cop1211]

1.CB Christian Gonzales
2a.WR Jonathan Mingo
2b.CB DJ Turner
3.SS Jordan Battle
4.OLB KJ Henry
7a.DT Moro Oromo
7b.S Gervarious Owens

[bradshaw2ben]

Broderick Jones
Joey Porter Jr
Keanu Benton
Darnell Washington
Izzy Abanikanda
Cory Trice
Lonnie Phelps

Exactly. I don't hate Herbig but I wanted Izzy in the 4th. Still need another RB to execute the ground and pound offense they are building.

I am wondering that if the Steelers could leave a team roster spot available so that they could snatch a decent 3rd rb from another team's practice roster after the final cuts.

You misspelled re-sign Benny Snell Football

[chippedhamsandwich]

Porter Jr. is taking #24, hopefully a sign that we will never again experience “Benny Snell Football”

[Steelafan77]

What’s in a number?

https://www.steelers.com/news/rookie-dr ... s-revealed
Steelers 2023 Draft Pick Jersey Numbers:
24 – Joey Porter Jr., CB
27 – Cory Trice Jr., DB *
51 – Nick Herbig, LB *
74 – Spencer Anderson, OL *
77 – Broderick Jones, OT
80 – Darnell Washington, TE *
95 – Keeanu Benton, DL*
* Indicates jersey number is subject to change

[VeritasSteel]

I think that this thread has no teeth. Put a cork in it and bury it until the end of this season, or at the end of next season. Then have a tribunal on your picks and defend them then.

[Ice]

Porter Jr. is taking #24, hopefully a sign that we will never again experience “Benny Snell Football”

And, on a wing and a prayer, that he plays like the last 24 at his position.

[tbsteel]

OK degenerates, with the amazing power of hindsight, who would you have picked at the Steelers selections? Gonna take a few swings:

1.14: Nolan Smith, LB
2.32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2.49: Sydney Brown, S
3.93: Dawand Jones, CT (custom toilet)
4.132: Darius Rush, CB
7.141: Corey Trice, CB
7.151: Ivan Pace Jr., LB

Welp, I'd give Khan/Weidl the clear edge after one year. Although LaPorta looks like the best player out of either group.

Replacing Darnell for Dawand Jones would have been especially nice. I didn't like Jones early on when looking into him, but planet theory you have to take that guy in the top 100.

[Steeldrama]

Sam Laporta and Creed Humphrey >>>> Muuuuth and Cole/Green

[Steelperch]

1. Christian Gonzales CB
2. Joey Porter CB
3. Keanu Benton NT
4. Carter Warren OT
4. Nick Herbig OLB
7. Cory Trice CB
7. Ivan Pace ILB

[Dan Smith--BYU]

The 2023 draft was the highlight of the 2023 season.

Jones will be a stud at LT if the Steelers wisely draft RT and C this time.

[Stosh-67]

The 2024 Foresight Draft........

Oline, Dline......ILB.

The Steelers need to get stronger and meaner up the middle.....
The Ravens and San Fran may be the two best teams in football.

Look at SF first line of defense up the middle.
Hargrave and Armstead .....Warner and Greenlaw as 2 ILB that play sideline to sideline. Probably the best IL duo in the NFL
And they probably have the best front 7 in the NFL.

The Ravens....
400 pound Pierce and Madubuike ( 13 sacks ) are a handful in the middle of the line.
Roquen and Queen are right there with San Frans guys in the middle.
And you have big S Kyle Hamilton who creeps up and basically plays as a 3rd ILB to give them a run stopping wall.

The Steelers need to continue to build the trenches and the middle of their defense.
They need to grab 2 offensive linemen within the first 4 picks.
A center and OT.
We need a day 1 starting center.

And we need defensive line.
Cam will be 35 in May.
OG did not impress this year.
The depth and recent draft picks of Leal and Loudermilk have not impressed.
Benton is the only guy of that defensive line unit that will or should be around in 2025, thats a short time to build a Dline.

Hence....need to go Dline with one of the first 2 or 3 picks....

I would go OL and Dline with the first 2 picks.
ILB with a top 4 pick.

Matter of fact.....the Steelers nee MORE draft picks.
If there is a year we need to trade down....to pick up a 3rd....
This is the year.
And if there is a way to move a player for a 4th or 5th......then let that 4th or 5th round piece be used to package to move up.

Drafting CB high in this draft will do no good if our front 7 lacks talent, pedigree and gets pushed around.

[Greeksteel]

The 2024 Foresight Draft........

Oline, Dline......ILB.

The Steelers need to get stronger and meaner up the middle.....
The Ravens and San Fran may be the two best teams in football.

Look at SF first line of defense up the middle.
Hargrave and Armstead .....Warner and Greenlaw as 2 ILB that play sideline to sideline. Probably the best IL duo in the NFL
And they probably have the best front 7 in the NFL.

The Ravens....
400 pound Pierce and Madubuike ( 13 sacks ) are a handful in the middle of the line.
Roquen and Queen are right there with San Frans guys in the middle.
And you have big S Kyle Hamilton who creeps up and basically plays as a 3rd ILB to give them a run stopping wall.

The Steelers need to continue to build the trenches and the middle of their defense.
They need to grab 2 offensive linemen within the first 4 picks.
A center and OT.
We need a day 1 starting center.

And we need defensive line.
Cam will be 35 in May.
OG did not impress this year.
The depth and recent draft picks of Leal and Loudermilk have not impressed.
Benton is the only guy of that defensive line unit that will or should be around in 2025, thats a short time to build a Dline.

Hence....need to go Dline with one of the first 2 or 3 picks....

I would go OL and Dline with the first 2 picks.
ILB with a top 4 pick.

Drafting CB high in this draft will do no good if our front 7 lacks talent, pedigree and gets pushed around.

Nice post Stosh...few guys im very interested in for this upcoming combine/draft are OT Kingsley Suamataia OC Jackson Powers-Johnson and DB Cooper Dejean

[Steeldrama]

The Ravens....
400 pound Pierce and Madubuike ( 13 sacks ) are a handful in the middle of the line.
Roquen and Queen are right there with San Frans guys in the middle.
And you have big S Kyle Hamilton who creeps up and basically plays as a 3rd ILB to give them a run stopping wall.

Two of those Ratbirds are UFA's this offseason.

Been advocating for the Steelers to change their approach to roster building gawd since forever.

Stop hole filling with several low budget UFAs and crappy ass late rd trades for the Allen Robinson's of the team.

INSTEAD

Target a couple big ticket UFA's to fill needs you may not get to in the draft.

Free agent offensive linemen looks pretty sparce

Soooo sign a top corner (Ljarius Sneed) THEN raid your division rival (Madubuike or Queen whichever they can't sign).

THEN

Lock Tomlin and Rooney OUT of the draft room.

NAIL this draft and EVERY draft (so you don't have soooo many gawd damn holes to fill in the first place)

Let Khan artist trade around the draft board

Land your RT and a CAPABLE Center (Is it any coincidence the Rats and Chiefs have the two best centers in football?)

BPA is your friend

I know.

Status Quo.

They'll NEVER change.

[jebrick]

OK degenerates, with the amazing power of hindsight, who would you have picked at the Steelers selections? Gonna take a few swings:

1.14: Nolan Smith, LB
2.32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2.49: Sydney Brown, S
3.93: Dawand Jones, CT (custom toilet)
4.132: Darius Rush, CB
7.141: Corey Trice, CB
7.151: Ivan Pace Jr., LB

Welp, I'd give Khan/Weidl the clear edge after one year. Although LaPorta looks like the best player out of either group.

Replacing Darnell for Dawand Jones would have been especially nice. I didn't like Jones early on when looking into him, but planet theory you have to take that guy in the top 100.

Ivan Pace has been a beast. I could not understand how he went undrafted.

[DP39]

1-14: Christian Gonzalez, CB
2-32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2-49: Kobie Turner, DT
3-93: Dawand Jones, OT
4-132: Puka Nacua, WR
7-241: Ivan Pace Jr., ILB
7-251: Ronnie Hickman Jr., S

[Stosh-67]

The 2024 Foresight Draft........

Oline, Dline......ILB.

The Steelers need to get stronger and meaner up the middle.....
The Ravens and San Fran may be the two best teams in football.

Look at SF first line of defense up the middle.
Hargrave and Armstead .....Warner and Greenlaw as 2 ILB that play sideline to sideline. Probably the best IL duo in the NFL
And they probably have the best front 7 in the NFL.

The Ravens....
400 pound Pierce and Madubuike ( 13 sacks ) are a handful in the middle of the line.
Roquen and Queen are right there with San Frans guys in the middle.
And you have big S Kyle Hamilton who creeps up and basically plays as a 3rd ILB to give them a run stopping wall.

The Steelers need to continue to build the trenches and the middle of their defense.
They need to grab 2 offensive linemen within the first 4 picks.
A center and OT.
We need a day 1 starting center.

And we need defensive line.
Cam will be 35 in May.
OG did not impress this year.
The depth and recent draft picks of Leal and Loudermilk have not impressed.
Benton is the only guy of that defensive line unit that will or should be around in 2025, thats a short time to build a Dline.

Hence....need to go Dline with one of the first 2 or 3 picks....

I would go OL and Dline with the first 2 picks.
ILB with a top 4 pick.

Drafting CB high in this draft will do no good if our front 7 lacks talent, pedigree and gets pushed around.

Nice post Stosh...few guys im very interested in for this upcoming combine/draft are OT Kingsley Suamataia OC Jackson Powers-Johnson and DB Cooper Dejean

Thanks
I'll have to check those kids out Greek.

[Stosh-67]

The Ravens....
400 pound Pierce and Madubuike ( 13 sacks ) are a handful in the middle of the line.
Roquen and Queen are right there with San Frans guys in the middle.
And you have big S Kyle Hamilton who creeps up and basically plays as a 3rd ILB to give them a run stopping wall.

Two of those Ratbirds are UFA's this offseason.

Been advocating for the Steelers to change their approach to roster building gawd since forever.

Stop hole filling with several low budget UFAs and crappy ass late rd trades for the Allen Robinson's of the team.

INSTEAD

Target a couple big ticket UFA's to fill needs you may not get to in the draft.

Free agent offensive linemen looks pretty sparce

Soooo sign a top corner (Ljarius Sneed) THEN raid your division rival (Madubuike or Queen whichever they can't sign).

THEN

Lock Tomlin and Rooney OUT of the draft room.

NAIL this draft and EVERY draft (so you don't have soooo many gawd damn holes to fill in the first place)

Let Khan artist trade around the draft board

Land your RT and a CAPABLE Center (Is it any coincidence the Rats and Chiefs have the two best centers in football?)

BPA is your friend

I know.

Status Quo.

They'll NEVER change.

I like it Drama.

Rather than signing 4,5,6 middle of the road free agents.....
Go get 2 bigger talents.....
And maybe hurt your rivals while doing so.

I see San Fran and Baltimore ILBs running sideline to sideline.....
We are severely lacking in this department.

UFA....both TB guys. White and David....been doing it together for a long time...
White has not turned 26 yet. David a little long in the tooth....but the guy is a tackle machine, but probably too old at this point, as he will be approaching 200 games played this time next year.

Nabbing Queen would be a double whammy. He is still only 24

Shaq Leonard will be back on the market and only 28.

Two guys that just faced off......Dodson of Buffalo and Gay of KC......( In the,.......... also hurting competition category )

Nathan Landman of Atlanta showed a bit this year...............and I love that he was born in Zimbabwe.

Queen or White would be my two targets.

[bradshaw2ben]

OK degenerates, with the amazing power of hindsight, who would you have picked at the Steelers selections? Gonna take a few swings:

1.14: Nolan Smith, LB
2.32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2.49: Sydney Brown, S
3.93: Dawand Jones, CT (custom toilet)
4.132: Darius Rush, CB
7.141: Corey Trice, CB
7.151: Ivan Pace Jr., LB

Welp, I'd give Khan/Weidl the clear edge after one year. Although LaPorta looks like the best player out of either group.

Replacing Darnell for Dawand Jones would have been especially nice. I didn't like Jones early on when looking into him, but planet theory you have to take that guy in the top 100.

Dawand Jones at 93 is a fantastic pick.

[Ice]

And we ended up with Rush, anyway.

[gojira5150]

1-14: Christian Gonzalez, CB
2-32: Sam LaPorta, TE
2-49: Kobie Turner, DT
3-93: Dawand Jones, OT
4-132: Puka Nacua, WR
7-241: Ivan Pace Jr., ILB
7-251: Ronnie Hickman Jr., S

I wanted Christian Gonzales as well. Could you imagine Gonzales & JPJ as our starting CB. Man O Man

[Steeldrama]

I play the hindsight game in my tiny brain all the time.
Especially when it comes to "My Guys"

Some combination of
Gonzalez
JPJ
Sam Laporta
and
Dawand Jones

would've been filthy, absolutely filthy

Couple that with what SHOULD'VE been a NO BRAINER decision to draft Creed Humphrey over MUUUUUTH

Further coupled with drafting Lamar Jackson (I envisioned a slash role) over VIRFUCKINGINA native Terrell Edmunds then it's your Steelers' bitch slapping the Swifties back to Kansas City this weekend instead of your rival Ravens.

-Ish