Jaylen Warren

[blu]

Isn't it time to admit that Warren should be the starting rb & that Harris is another in the list of terrible Pittsburgh 1st round picks?

[cyberlaz]

Isn't it time to admit that Warren should be the starting rb & that Harris is another in the list of terrible Pittsburgh 1st round picks?

I don't think Warren will get the starting slot unless he gets on the bad side of Tomlin but he does seem to have better vision and more explosiveness than Harris.

I don't get what is up with Harris. He is running like he was early last season when he was injured. Is he injured again? Not that we know of right? He just doesn't accelerate as fast but once he gets going he's a force.

Of course the oline blocking kind of sucks. You have to get Harris to that second level where he can steam roll cornerbacks and maybe a linebacker or two. The whole offense is f'd up and out of sync. The play calling, the blocking, Pickett missing dudes, penalties, and on and on. I don't think we see a functional offense until mid to late season. The line got revamped and there are a bunch of new (new to the Steelers) receivers. It's going to take some time to get all the pieces working together. Until then lets hope the defense can win a few more to keep the Steelers in the hunt.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Isn't it time to admit that Warren should be the starting rb & that Harris is another in the list of terrible Pittsburgh 1st round picks?

I don't think Warren will get the starting slot unless he gets on the bad side of Tomlin but he does seem to have better vision and more explosiveness than Harris.

I don't get what is up with Harris. He is running like he was early last season when he was injured. Is he injured again? Not that we know of right? He just doesn't accelerate as fast but once he gets going he's a force.

Of course the oline blocking kind of sucks. You have to get Harris to that second level where he can steam roll cornerbacks and maybe a linebacker or two. The whole offense is f'd up and out of sync. The play calling, the blocking, Pickett missing dudes, penalties, and on and on. I don't think we see a functional offense until mid to late season. The line got revamped and there are a bunch of new (new to the Steelers) receivers. It's going to take some time to get all the pieces working together. Until then lets hope the defense can win a few more to keep the Steelers in the hunt.

Good summary. Unfortunately, it applies to last season, this season and next season and next…

[langer]

Najee is auditioning for Dancing with the Stars.

Those back to back plays running him outside were so insane. The first one he was slow as hell, didn't gain anything, the second one the same exact thing.

Is this the worst offense of all time? I'm going to poke around PFR later.

[Jobu]

The line got revamped…

There is one new starter. Is that “revamped”?

[Jizz Mop]

Please draft a stud center next year in Rd 1 or 2

DL in Rd 1 or 2

Line looks like shit

[cyberlaz]

The line got revamped…

There is one new starter. Is that “revamped”?

I just checked and you are right...just one change at guard with Seumalo. For some reason I thought it was more than just that and I guess they just suck.

Now I'm sad.

[Kodiak.]

Maybe someone that owns a Harley dealership can hook Najee up....

[franco32]

Najee is a great human story and we strive to recognize adversity like that. We value and embrace it. Tomlin loves Najee and is the biggest reason Warren doesn't get more playing time. It's infuriating. Yes, Warren missed one blitz pickup and Kenny got killed. But, otherwise, he busted his tail.

Warren hits the hole FAST. If there is a crease he takes it before the D can swarm the way they do for Najee. Tomlin is just cutting his nose off to spite his face by not playing Jaylen more.

[beerbrother]

Warren



Najee

[DP39]

Najee is a great human story and we strive to recognize adversity like that. We value and embrace it. Tomlin loves Najee and is the biggest reason Warren doesn't get more playing time. It's infuriating. Yes, Warren missed one blitz pickup and Kenny got killed. But, otherwise, he busted his tail.

Warren hits the hole FAST. If there is a crease he takes it before the D can swarm the way they do for Najee. Tomlin is just cutting his nose off to spite his face by not playing Jaylen more.

One of Tomlin's biggest faults (and he has many) is his stupid, misguided loyalty. To the detriment of TEAM success, Tomlin will unjustifiably champion certain players AND stick with them way longer than he should. Najee, Bush, Gunner, Snell, Green, and soon-to-be Pat P. are just a few recent examples out of so, so many players over the years. Tomlin has shown us that this is who he is -- over and over again.

It's unfortunate, because players like Warren typically suffer due to it.

[Steelperch]

You guys need to take a second and realize how far this franchise has fallen when a fan base is clamoring for an undrafted backup running back with 26 rushing yards at 2.9 yards per carry this season.

[Orangesteel]

You guys need to take a second and realize how far this franchise has fallen when a fan base is clamoring for an undrafted backup running back with 26 rushing yards at 2.9 yards per carry this season.

I’m with you. I hate this team as constructed. But Warren did rip off a 60 yard TD run against the Bills who were at the time playing a lot of their starters.

Najee maybe gets 6 or 7 yards on that play.

Moar Warren please.

[Steelersfan]

You guys need to take a second and realize how far this franchise has fallen when a fan base is clamoring for an undrafted backup running back with 26 rushing yards at 2.9 yards per carry this season.

I’m with you. I hate this team as constructed. But Warren did rip off a 60 yard TD run against the Bills who were at the time playing a lot of their starters.

Najee maybe gets 6 or 7 yards on that play.

Moar Warren please.

Is it Najee & Warren? Or is the Faulkner/Canada combo, causing the Najee "suck".

Someone please name ONE, just one running back that ascended under Faulkner's "watch" college or pros. And college Jaylen Samuels, doesn't count, cause he ruined him & ran him outta the league too, just took till they were members of the Steelers.

[Orangesteel]

You guys need to take a second and realize how far this franchise has fallen when a fan base is clamoring for an undrafted backup running back with 26 rushing yards at 2.9 yards per carry this season.

I’m with you. I hate this team as constructed. But Warren did rip off a 60 yard TD run against the Bills who were at the time playing a lot of their starters.

Najee maybe gets 6 or 7 yards on that play.

Moar Warren please.

Is it Najee & Warren? Or is the Faulkner/Canada combo, causing the Najee "suck".

Someone please name ONE, just one running back that ascended under Faulkner's "watch" college or pros. And college Jaylen Samuels, doesn't count, cause he ruined him & ran him outta the league too, just took till they were members of the Steelers.

I’m with you the coaching has been abysmal. But based on what I see from two guys running in the same scheme behind the same offensive linemen Warren does more with his carries practically 100% of the time. There is really no way around it. Warren has burst and he hits whatever hole he sees hard. Najee isn’t that guy and he gets way less with the same carries.


Rooney won’t change, Tomlin won’t change, Canada won’t be fired. All that is constant, but they can immediately improve the offense by simply playing Warren more.

[tbsteel]

Welcome aboard guys. Glad to see more folks can make it.

Warren is clearly the better football player. The more he's on the field, and the less Najee is, the better our offense is and will be.

No one is saying Jaylen Warren is Austin Ekeler, it's just that he's a better player and deserves more significantly more snaps than Najee.

Just keep this talk quiet, we don't want to upset SEC honks like Drama.

[K_C_]

You guys need to take a second and realize how far this franchise has fallen when a fan base is clamoring for an undrafted backup running back with 26 rushing yards at 2.9 yards per carry this season.

Well, in the passing game, Najee Harris has been targeted 5 times, has 3 catches for 2 yards.

Jaylen Warren has been targeted 12 times, has 9 catches for 78 yards.

The Steelers can't run the ball. At all. Neither Harris or Warren but it's pretty clear who the more explosive player is.

[langer]

The more Najee plays the more Coach Mike Tomlin looks like an idiot and might leave Pittsburgh.

I'm ok with it. This team is hilarious to watch. It's entertaining.

Is he still hurt or is this how he runs normally? He's tip toeing again.

[bradshaw2ben]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

[Mick]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

i think that’s about what we want.

[franco32]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

That's too many touches for Najee. I'd like to see a 70-30 split which Najee coming in after teams are a little more worn down (if that ever happens).

[Works At A Bank]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

That's too many touches for Najee. I'd like to see a 70-30 split which Najee coming in after teams are a little more worn down (if that ever happens).

It’ll never happen. 3rd and long is the goal so they can throw short of the sticks. Defenses will be getting tons of rest against the Steelers.

[Jobu]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

That's too many touches for Najee. I'd like to see a 70-30 split which Najee coming in after teams are a little more worn down (if that ever happens).

It’ll never happen. 3rd and long is the goal so they can throw short of the sticks. Defenses will be getting tons of rest against the Steelers.

Weighty downs, man…weighty downs!

[jeemie]

Warren and Najee were almost 50-50 I think it was 57% to 43%. Also, Naje had 13 rushes + pass targets and Warren had 16.

The only time Najee looked good was the series after they went a whole series with Warren.

Finally looked like it woke him up because he might lose his job, and that's when he broke a couple of decent runs to allow his YPC average to be higher than Warren's for the game.

[blu]

Despite being a wasted first or early round pick, isn't Harris better suited to being a fullback getting paid what the average NFL fullback. Not only will Najee not get a 2nd contract from the Steelers, I can't imagine any NFL team signing Harris. Is any first- or second-string NFL rb worse than him?

[DP39]

Despite being a wasted first or early round pick, isn't Harris better suited to being a fullback getting paid what the average NFL fullback. Not only will Najee not get a 2nd contract from the Steelers, I can't imagine any NFL team signing Harris. Is any first- or second-string NFL rb worse than him?

I agree. Not sure Tomlin sees his personal pet project the same way, though.

By the time Najee is 27 he'll have made over $13M and should have plenty of cash to be that great leader/person Tomlin sees him as. I don't know what Najee is supposed to end up being great at, but it sure as hell ain't gonna be NFL football when it's all said in done.

Tomlin thinks Najee is going to change the world in some way. I just don't see it -- never have. Guy doesn't have a single leadership bone in his body, imo. The only reason some idiots have looked up him is that he was older than them and was a RB at a top college program; that's it.

Dude seems like a nice enough guy, I guess, but he's a JAG in every sense of the word. He may have had a few trails and tribulations to overcome, but my guess is that ever since he was really good at football (from a young age) he was treated like a god and given so much more than a lot of underprivileged kids that just fall through the cracks.

Tomlin and his love for Najee is a perfect example of why I keep using the term "the blind leading the blind" over the years here.

Tomlin, please get on with your life's work at a local boys and girls club AND stop f'n up my/our Steelers!

[Steeldrama]

The Steelers' ground game ranks dead last with 0 thats ZERO yards gained before contact.

Coaching and the OL share much if not MOST of the blame.

X's and O, O, Ohhhs they haunt me
The dumb one's blame Najee
They won't
Let
Go
X's and Oooohs...

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/allstee ... s-run-game

[Orangesteel]

Isn’t it about time that we start really criticizing the talent evaluators if they specifically went out and got guys to help build a stout running game, yet we are the worst rushing team in the league?

Who are these idiots? Weidl and Little Lord Fuckpants? I thought everyone was excited who they brought in for the trenches. Go watch some breakdowns on the Cleveland game they are all over the internet. Our line isn’t just bad they are exceptionally bad, like dudes basically whiffing and getting blown into the backfield on practically every running play.

The concept of an offensive lineman getting to the second level is completely foreign to these losers. If any of these fat assholes don’t end up on the ground at the whistle they count it as a win. It’s the worst Steelers running game I’ve ever seen.

[DP39]

Isn’t it about time that we start really criticizing the talent evaluators if they specifically went out and got guys to help build a stout running game, yet we are the worst rushing team in the league?

Who are these idiots? Weidl and Little Lord Fuckpants? I thought everyone was excited who they brought in for the trenches. Go watch some breakdowns on the Cleveland game they are all over the internet. Our line isn’t just bad they are exceptionally bad, like dudes basically whiffing and getting blown into the backfield on practically every running play.

The concept of an offensive lineman getting to the second level is completely foreign to these losers. If any of these fat assholes don’t end up on the ground at the whistle they count it as a win. It’s the worst Steelers running game I’ve ever seen.

While agree, I think you might be severely underestimating the pull our esteemed HC has when it comes to picking the horseflesh.

Of course, then there's the matter of the JAGs he picks/hires to teach, prepare and scheme up game plans for said horseflesh.