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Pickett needs to watch some of his film. Steps into throws and is cool under pressure.

Orangesteel wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:28 am

Pickett needs to watch some of his film. Steps into throws and is cool under pressure.

Sure is nice to have that Oline, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo and the rest. Also nice to have Shanahan's plan designs and play calling. But, yes, Purdy has been impressive.

You can credit Shanahan’s system all you want, but Jimmy G and Trey Lance were mostly ass in it compared to Purdy. He anticipates well, sees the field well, is very good in the pocket and has amazing accuracy. League MVP thru 5 weeks.

Well, Purdy has one less TD pass tonight than the entire Steelers offense has scored in 5 games. Looking like a league MVP and SB favorite right now.

franco32 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:34 am

Orangesteel wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:28 am

Pickett needs to watch some of his film. Steps into throws and is cool under pressure.

Sure is nice to have that Oline, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo and the rest. Also nice to have Shanahan's plan designs and play calling. But, yes, Purdy has been impressive.

Agreed. Their offense is insane. Crazy seeing folks so wide open.

All the more reason to look at players in the draft with big upside late

You never know. Why not take a chance ?

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:31 am

All the more reason to look at players in the draft with big upside late

You never know. Why not take a chance ?

We took Chris Oladokun….

chippedhamsandwich wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:47 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:31 am

All the more reason to look at players in the draft with big upside late

You never know. Why not take a chance ?

We took Chris Oladokun….

Not the worst move but why not give him a real chance to develop ??

We already knew that the 3 QB didn’t have it

To uncover talent like Purdy you gotta not be afraid to put 4 or 5 guys on the 53 at the bottom of the roster and just see what happens

I feel like one of the flaws of this team isn’t necessarily that the bottom of the roster isn’t great but that the brain trust rarely drafts or UDFAs players at the backend that have some notable upside characteristics

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:23 am

chippedhamsandwich wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:47 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:31 am

All the more reason to look at players in the draft with big upside late

You never know. Why not take a chance ?

We took Chris Oladokun….

Not the worst move but why not give him a real chance to develop ??

We already knew that the 3 QB didn’t have it

To uncover talent like Purdy you gotta not be afraid to put 4 or 5 guys on the 53 at the bottom of the roster and just see what happens

I feel like one of the flaws of this team isn’t necessarily that the bottom of the roster isn’t great but that the brain trust rarely drafts or UDFAs players at the backend that have some notable upside characteristics

The difference between Tomlin and Cowher.

Cowher had guys like James Harrison riding the pine on his rosters…guys that could step in when needed, and then become stars.

Tomlin rarely has done this…especially lately. His teams totally rely on a few outlier talent guys, and if those guys get injured or leave, the Steelers suffer greatly because of it.

Oh and when you have shitty assistant coaches, you are not going to develop the back end guys.

Steelperch wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:38 am

You can credit Shanahan’s system all you want, but Jimmy G and Trey Lance were mostly ass in it compared to Purdy. He anticipates well, sees the field well, is very good in the pocket and has amazing accuracy. League MVP thru 5 weeks.

Umm, no, that's completely wrong.

Jimmy G averaged 8.3 yards a pass in that system from 2017 through 2022. 3rd highest in NFL history. Better than Mahomes, Rodgers, Big Ben and anyone else in modern history. Won 40 games with only 17 losses, around 240 yards a game, with 82 TDs to only 42 picks. The one year he played all 16 games and was healthy through the season they went 13-3 and made the Super Bowl.

So no, he was not mostly ass. He is mostly ass in Oakland now, which only furthers the point.

Brock Purdy only has, at his disposal......

Probably the best offensive line in the game. Both pass blocking and run blocking, they are elite.

A top 3 TE. A game changer at that position.

2 outstanding WR's, one of which is a Swiss Army Knife who could probably be a Pro Bowl RB if he chose to focus on just running the ball.

Only the best RB in the business who is also dangerous as all fuck in the passing game.

The best play designer and play caller in the business.

The best defense in the NFL.

Outside of that, Purdy really doesn't have much around him.

Purdy is an MVP shoo-in but for TJ Watt.

The Steelers would be 0-5 without him. Niners would probably be 4-1 with Garrapolo.

Sad part is, you know if we had drafted Purdy in R7 he would have ended-up cut just like the other kid.

Kodiak. wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:00 pm

Sad part is, you know if we had drafted Purdy in R7 he would have ended-up cut just like the other kid.

Steelperch wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:38 am

You can credit Shanahan’s system all you want, but Jimmy G...[was] mostly ass in it compared to Purdy.

wut?

As a 49er, Jimmy G had a 38-17 record, a Super Bowl appearance, and currently has the 6th highest QB Rating in NFL History.

Jimmy G's biggest problem in San Fran was that he couldn't stay healthy.

Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:57 pm

Purdy is an MVP shoo-in but for TJ Watt.

The Steelers would be 0-5 without him. Niners would probably be 4-1 with Garrapolo.

That is a fact!

jeemie wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:03 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:23 am

chippedhamsandwich wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:47 am

We took Chris Oladokun….

Not the worst move but why not give him a real chance to develop ??

We already knew that the 3 QB didn’t have it

To uncover talent like Purdy you gotta not be afraid to put 4 or 5 guys on the 53 at the bottom of the roster and just see what happens

I feel like one of the flaws of this team isn’t necessarily that the bottom of the roster isn’t great but that the brain trust rarely drafts or UDFAs players at the backend that have some notable upside characteristics

The difference between Tomlin and Cowher.

Cowher had guys like James Harrison riding the pine on his rosters…guys that could step in when needed, and then become stars.

Tomlin rarely has done this…especially lately. His teams totally rely on a few outlier talent guys, and if those guys get injured or leave, the Steelers suffer greatly because of it.

JPJ is riding the pine just waiting to get inserted; what about him?

Purdy is a god?

Frank Underwood

tbsteel wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:39 pm

Steelperch wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:38 am

You can credit Shanahan’s system all you want, but Jimmy G and Trey Lance were mostly ass in it compared to Purdy. He anticipates well, sees the field well, is very good in the pocket and has amazing accuracy. League MVP thru 5 weeks.

Umm, no, that's completely wrong.

Jimmy G averaged 8.3 yards a pass in that system from 2017 through 2022. 3rd highest in NFL history. Better than Mahomes, Rodgers, Big Ben and anyone else in modern history. Won 40 games with only 17 losses, around 240 yards a game, with 82 TDs to only 42 picks. The one year he played all 16 games and was healthy through the season they went 13-3 and made the Super Bowl.

So no, he was not mostly ass. He is mostly ass in Oakland now, which only furthers the point.

Daaaaaaayuuum.

Yet another sure shot TB heater.

Purdy is better than Kenny.

So what?

Tom Brady: pick 199 R6.

It happens.

tbsteel wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:39 pm

Steelperch wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:38 am

You can credit Shanahan’s system all you want, but Jimmy G and Trey Lance were mostly ass in it compared to Purdy. He anticipates well, sees the field well, is very good in the pocket and has amazing accuracy. League MVP thru 5 weeks.

Umm, no, that's completely wrong.

Jimmy G averaged 8.3 yards a pass in that system from 2017 through 2022. 3rd highest in NFL history. Better than Mahomes, Rodgers, Big Ben and anyone else in modern history. Won 40 games with only 17 losses, around 240 yards a game, with 82 TDs to only 42 picks. The one year he played all 16 games and was healthy through the season they went 13-3 and made the Super Bowl.

So no, he was not mostly ass. He is mostly ass in Oakland now, which only furthers the point.

For sure Trey Lance played like ass in that system, though.

LakecrestSteeler wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:43 pm

jeemie wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:03 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:23 am

Not the worst move but why not give him a real chance to develop ??

We already knew that the 3 QB didn’t have it

To uncover talent like Purdy you gotta not be afraid to put 4 or 5 guys on the 53 at the bottom of the roster and just see what happens

I feel like one of the flaws of this team isn’t necessarily that the bottom of the roster isn’t great but that the brain trust rarely drafts or UDFAs players at the backend that have some notable upside characteristics

The difference between Tomlin and Cowher.

Cowher had guys like James Harrison riding the pine on his rosters…guys that could step in when needed, and then become stars.

Tomlin rarely has done this…especially lately. His teams totally rely on a few outlier talent guys, and if those guys get injured or leave, the Steelers suffer greatly because of it.

JPJ is riding the pine just waiting to get inserted; what about him?

Which would be fine except the guys in front of him suck ass.

Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm

Purdy is better than Kenny.

So what?

Tom Brady: pick 199 R6.

It happens.

Yeah, the Steelers made a homer pick for sure. If Kenny had gone to any school other than Pitt he would have been a 3rd round pick.

Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm

Purdy is better than Kenny.

So what?

Tom Brady: pick 199 R6.

It happens.

Purdy looks great. Nobody would argue otherwise.

The thing is though....his supporting cast is the best in football. By a MILE.

The Niners literally HAVE NO FUCKING WEAKNESSES. At any position on the football field.

On either side of the ball, at every position, they are either the best in football or among the best in football.

Purdy has basically everything Kenny doesn't have. I mean EVERYFUCKINGTHING.

Purdy is human. When the rush gets to him, he'll throw shit up for grabs and panic, just like any other young QB.

So far Purdy has looked excellent but right now he can't be judged fairly.

With or without Purdy at this point, I could see the Niners having an undefeated regular season.

Yes, I think Sam Darnold could hand the ball to Christian McCaffrey, throw screens to McCaffrey, make the throws Purdy is making with very clean pockets, etc.

So no....I'm not crowning Purdy as an elite QB on THAT fucking team, but he absolutely looks very good.

It really is interesting the lengths Kenny pimps go to excuse Kenny. Does supporting cast matter? Of course. Does supporting cast turn an elite QB into terrible one? Not in the modern NFL (i.e., every NFL player is good enough though maybe it turns an elite QB into playing like an average one). Likewise, can a supporting cast turn a terrible QB into an MVP candidate? Again, no.

Supporting cast / coaching of course matters. But the QB does as well. If not, why worry about paying QBs.

JJT07 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:50 am

franco32 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:34 am

Orangesteel wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:28 am

Pickett needs to watch some of his film. Steps into throws and is cool under pressure.

Sure is nice to have that Oline, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo and the rest. Also nice to have Shanahan's plan designs and play calling. But, yes, Purdy has been impressive.

Agreed. Their offense is insane. Crazy seeing folks so wide open.

But WRs are open because he's throwing through tiny windows long before they're even open.

zeke5123 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:23 pm

It really is interesting the lengths Kenny pimps go to excuse Kenny. Does supporting cast matter? Of course. Does supporting cast turn an elite QB into terrible one? Not in the modern NFL (i.e., every NFL player is good enough though maybe it turns an elite QB into playing like an average one). Likewise, can a supporting cast turn a terrible QB into an MVP candidate? Again, no.

Supporting cast / coaching of course matters. But the QB does as well. If not, why worry about paying QBs.

I mean, you should honest to Christ become a comedian.



Jimmy G had the 49ers in the Super Bowl just a few years ago and goddamn near got them there again in 2021.

The Eagles broke Purdy in half because their d-line is probably the only d-line in football that might actually be better than the Niners offensive line, which is elite.

The announcer said it best last night. Purdy is basically playing point guard. He has so many elite weapons and normally has a ton of time to find them, it would be very difficult for him to fuck that team up.

Nobody would argue the kid is playing well, but in that offense, surrounded by great players at damn near every position and your play caller/designer is a genius, he would have to be a fucking retard not to be successful.

Sheesh.

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:33 pm

JJT07 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:50 am

franco32 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:34 am

Sure is nice to have that Oline, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo and the rest. Also nice to have Shanahan's plan designs and play calling. But, yes, Purdy has been impressive.

Agreed. Their offense is insane. Crazy seeing folks so wide open.

But WRs are open because he's throwing through tiny windows long before they're even open.

The announcers were marveling at the play designs from Shannahan.

Guys were running WIDE THE FUCK OPEN and Dallas' defensive players didn't know whether to shit or wind their watches.

I'm going to keep listening for analysts to marvel at Matt Canada's play design skills.

That should be coming soon I'd imagine.

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:33 pm

But WRs are open because he's throwing through tiny windows long before they're even open.

The fact they only run like 4 routes is extremely concerning. And it looks like Kenny is being programmed to see the guy open rather than throwing a guy open.

While it's easy to blame it all on Canada, this is extreme risk aversion even for Tomlin, and Kenny's limitations HAVE to be factoring into that.

JV coordinator with a less-than-pedestrian QB is a recipe for a historically bad offense.